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QOGQOG
834 Posts
On July 29 2023 02:52 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Oh that format sounds cool!! Was sad at first seeing Creator matched against Serral Yeah, it would have been rough for Serral to get eliminated immediately like that. I do like the pseudo-Swiss, glad to see it getting used more. | ||
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dysenterymd
1238 Posts
Also glad every R1 match is a Korean vs a foreigner. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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tigera6
3410 Posts
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FCHK
202 Posts
On July 29 2023 12:27 tigera6 wrote: Much, much better format than the same old 4 group of 4 players format. But they would need to have a fairly balance seeding system to match the players up. They did, using Gamers Without Borders 2023 results then sorted by EPT points World Stage 1 UB Serral vs Creator Korea Stage 2 LB World Stage 1 UB HeRoMaRinE vs herO Korea Stage 2 LB World Stage 1 LB Reynor vs Classic Korea Stage 2 UB World Stage 1 LB Spirit vs Cure Korea Stage 2 UB World Stage 2 UB Clem vs Dark Korea Stage 1 LB World Stage 2 UB ShoWTimE vs Maru Korea Stage 1 LB World Stage 2 LB Elazer vs ByuN Korea Stage 1 UB World Stage 2 LB Oliveira vs Solar Korea Stage 1 UB It all align except putting Elazer above Oliveira | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4201 Posts
would be nice if bo3 but bo5 for the elimination/qualification games pretty refreshing, gotta say | ||
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Kreuger
Sweden755 Posts
On July 29 2023 17:44 M3t4PhYzX wrote: bo3 or bo5? would be nice if bo3 but bo5 for the elimination/qualification games pretty refreshing, gotta say Seems bo3 for the swiss part. Would assume bo5 after that | ||
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tigera6
3410 Posts
On July 29 2023 16:33 FCHK wrote: They did, using Gamers Without Borders 2023 results then sorted by EPT points World Stage 1 UB Serral vs Creator Korea Stage 2 LB World Stage 1 UB HeRoMaRinE vs herO Korea Stage 2 LB World Stage 1 LB Reynor vs Classic Korea Stage 2 UB World Stage 1 LB Spirit vs Cure Korea Stage 2 UB World Stage 2 UB Clem vs Dark Korea Stage 1 LB World Stage 2 UB ShoWTimE vs Maru Korea Stage 1 LB World Stage 2 LB Elazer vs ByuN Korea Stage 1 UB World Stage 2 LB Oliveira vs Solar Korea Stage 1 UB It all align except putting Elazer above Oliveira yeah, but I am also speaking about for later rounds, like with those whose record are 1-0, and then 2-0. Theoretically you should never match Maru vs Serral if they both win out because they have the highest seed, supposedly. I think when they did the this format in ESL Master EU, they F up the seeding, we had MaxPax playing against Clem in 2nd round at the same time as we have Skillous vs Lambo. | ||
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FCHK
202 Posts
On July 29 2023 20:52 tigera6 wrote: yeah, but I am also speaking about for later rounds, like with those whose record are 1-0, and then 2-0. Theoretically you should never match Maru vs Serral if they both win out because they have the highest seed, supposedly. I think when they did the this format in ESL Master EU, they F up the seeding, we had MaxPax playing against Clem in 2nd round at the same time as we have Skillous vs Lambo. To be fair they didn't have an established ranking at that time Hopefully it works this time around | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25613 Posts
Really, really not what SC2 actually needs is another big money tournament for the top players around though. On top of an exhibition tournament of undoubtedly rusty legends with double the prize pool of the last GSL season? Yeah that’ll really help the scene… Compared to the money needed to gain traction in Formula One or football, eSports bar to entering the scene as a big player and host is absolutely minuscule, I’m still equally as wary of the underlying motivations. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17677 Posts
On July 29 2023 22:56 WombaT wrote: It’ll no doubt be a hyped watch, and I like the bracket format chosen too. Really, really not what SC2 actually needs is another big money tournament for the top players around though. On top of an exhibition tournament of undoubtedly rusty legends with double the prize pool of the last GSL season? Yeah that’ll really help the scene… Compared to the money needed to gain traction in Formula One or football, eSports bar to entering the scene as a big player and host is absolutely minuscule, I’m still equally as wary of the underlying motivations. We haven't seen the prize distribution yet, have we? It could be a good spread with high payouts to the bottom players. I mean yeah for a healthier scene they would've given money to more than just top 16 players but it's not like this is hurting the scene. If it were Blizzard or ESL funding this it would be one thing, but this just seems like someone (or multiple people?) throwing money at their own entertainment lol, we're lucky that it's us and not some other game. | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1198 Posts
On July 30 2023 07:45 Die4Ever wrote: We haven't seen the prize distribution yet, have we? It could be a good spread with high payouts to the bottom players. I mean yeah for a healthier scene they would've given money to more than just top 16 players but it's not like this is hurting the scene. If it were Blizzard or ESL funding this it would be one thing, but this just seems like someone (or multiple people?) throwing money at their own entertainment lol, we're lucky that it's us and not some other game. Apparently there are atleast 12 different games that get money thrown at during this event. It is just sportswashing, so of course the TO tries to get as many top players as possible. Not much use to invest in lower level players if you just want to connect with a younger audience fast | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17677 Posts
On July 30 2023 08:05 Balnazza wrote: Apparently there are atleast 12 different games that get money thrown at during this event. It is just sportswashing, so of course the TO tries to get as many top players as possible. Not much use to invest in lower level players if you just want to connect with a younger audience fast Holy crap 12 games lol, how rich are these people? | ||
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Kreuger
Sweden755 Posts
On July 30 2023 08:20 Die4Ever wrote: Holy crap 12 games lol, how rich are these people? Like besoz and musk x 10 atleast | ||
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Slydie
1923 Posts
On July 30 2023 08:05 Balnazza wrote: Apparently there are atleast 12 different games that get money thrown at during this event. It is just sportswashing, so of course the TO tries to get as many top players as possible. Not much use to invest in lower level players if you just want to connect with a younger audience fast As I know the Arabs, I have never seen them even try to build a solid food chain from the bottom up. All they do is skimming the top of a scene, going for the most publicity money can buy. This event goes right into their usual strategy. I would actually respect them a lot more if they shifted to sponsoring smaller and local events all around Western Europe. That should even do a better job of painting them as "good guys", or at least show they have a likeable side. User was warned for this post | ||
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1126 Posts
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ElMakac
20 Posts
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zelevin
United States274 Posts
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sidasf
85 Posts
On July 30 2023 14:36 Slydie wrote: As I know the Arabs, I have never seen them even try to build a solid food chain from the bottom up. All they do is skimming the top of a scene, going for the most publicity money can buy. This event goes right into their usual strategy. I would actually respect them a lot more if they shifted to sponsoring smaller and local events all around Western Europe. That should even do a better job of painting them as "good guys", or at least show they have a likeable side. User was warned for this post Not even trying to hide being a racist pos, impressive. This is great for the scene, a literal god send. Can't wait to watch it! | ||
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Slydie
1923 Posts
On July 31 2023 06:57 sidasf wrote: Not even trying to hide being a racist pos, impressive. This is great for the scene, a literal god send. Can't wait to watch it! I should probably have written "Arab states". I was referreing to the states and enterprises who hand out sponsorships, not "Arabs" in general. If anyone has a different impression than mine, I would love to hear about it. Anyway, sportswashing from that part of the world is a very hot topic. It includes: -The scandlals regarding the Quatar World Cup. -Paying Christiano Ronaldo to come play in their League. -Sponsoring multiple Tour de France teams. -Very recently placing an astronomical bid o Mbappe, which he declined. All examples expensive, high profile publicity moves. Where the money comes from and their intentions should always be questioned. | ||
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