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China6333 Posts
And buying shares in multiple major video game developers.
And the entire football league in a spending mania poaching players from Europe.
And buying the entire PGA golf tour.
And buying into Formula 1. Including insisting to have the race going on despite missile striking the city the race was hosted in.
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On July 31 2023 06:57 sidasf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2023 14:36 Slydie wrote:On July 30 2023 08:05 Balnazza wrote:On July 30 2023 07:45 Die4Ever wrote:On July 29 2023 22:56 WombaT wrote:
It’ll no doubt be a hyped watch, and I like the bracket format chosen too.
Really, really not what SC2 actually needs is another big money tournament for the top players around though.
On top of an exhibition tournament of undoubtedly rusty legends with double the prize pool of the last GSL season?
Yeah that’ll really help the scene…
Compared to the money needed to gain traction in Formula One or football, eSports bar to entering the scene as a big player and host is absolutely minuscule, I’m still equally as wary of the underlying motivations. We haven't seen the prize distribution yet, have we? It could be a good spread with high payouts to the bottom players. I mean yeah for a healthier scene they would've given money to more than just top 16 players but it's not like this is hurting the scene. If it were Blizzard or ESL funding this it would be one thing, but this just seems like someone (or multiple people?) throwing money at their own entertainment lol, we're lucky that it's us and not some other game. Apparently there are atleast 12 different games that get money thrown at during this event. It is just sportswashing, so of course the TO tries to get as many top players as possible. Not much use to invest in lower level players if you just want to connect with a younger audience fast As I know the Arabs, I have never seen them even try to build a solid food chain from the bottom up. All they do is skimming the top of a scene, going for the most publicity money can buy. This event goes right into their usual strategy. I would actually respect them a lot more if they shifted to sponsoring smaller and local events all around Western Europe. That should even do a better job of painting them as "good guys", or at least show they have a likeable side. User was warned for this post Not even trying to hide being a racist pos, impressive. This is great for the scene, a literal god send. Can't wait to watch it!
I fail to see how making the rich and successful players richer is great for the scene, but feel free to enlighten me.
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United States33712 Posts
On July 31 2023 17:15 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2023 06:57 sidasf wrote:On July 30 2023 14:36 Slydie wrote:On July 30 2023 08:05 Balnazza wrote:On July 30 2023 07:45 Die4Ever wrote:On July 29 2023 22:56 WombaT wrote:
It’ll no doubt be a hyped watch, and I like the bracket format chosen too.
Really, really not what SC2 actually needs is another big money tournament for the top players around though.
On top of an exhibition tournament of undoubtedly rusty legends with double the prize pool of the last GSL season?
Yeah that’ll really help the scene…
Compared to the money needed to gain traction in Formula One or football, eSports bar to entering the scene as a big player and host is absolutely minuscule, I’m still equally as wary of the underlying motivations. We haven't seen the prize distribution yet, have we? It could be a good spread with high payouts to the bottom players. I mean yeah for a healthier scene they would've given money to more than just top 16 players but it's not like this is hurting the scene. If it were Blizzard or ESL funding this it would be one thing, but this just seems like someone (or multiple people?) throwing money at their own entertainment lol, we're lucky that it's us and not some other game. Apparently there are atleast 12 different games that get money thrown at during this event. It is just sportswashing, so of course the TO tries to get as many top players as possible. Not much use to invest in lower level players if you just want to connect with a younger audience fast As I know the Arabs, I have never seen them even try to build a solid food chain from the bottom up. All they do is skimming the top of a scene, going for the most publicity money can buy. This event goes right into their usual strategy. I would actually respect them a lot more if they shifted to sponsoring smaller and local events all around Western Europe. That should even do a better job of painting them as "good guys", or at least show they have a likeable side. User was warned for this post Not even trying to hide being a racist pos, impressive. This is great for the scene, a literal god send. Can't wait to watch it! I fail to see how making the rich and successful players richer is great for the scene, but feel free to enlighten me.
This is just quibbling about the most efficient way to use money to support SC2—Gamers8 is pretty obviously and unambiguously good for JUST the SC2 esports scene in a vacuum. Fans get entertained by a world championship class event, top players remain in the scene (I have to think many would have retired or toned down activities without Gamers8, especially since Katowice 2024 hasn't even been confirmed), SC2 stays in the mix as a 'relevant' if low-tier esport.
The question being posed to everyone is whether or not the good of StarCraft II should be pursued at all other costs.
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I want Creator to make a strong run so bad but with the state of Protoss i think he'll almost surely lose vs Terran, hoping he'll get some PvZs as he seemed to do pretty good vs Dark the last year or so (seems like he was always very close to winning if he made 1 less mistake). Though i don't think he has a chance against Serral T_T
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Price distribution is out
1st: 150k USD
2nd: 65k USD
3-4: 30k USD
 Gamers8/2023
5k USD to just show up is nice 
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On August 01 2023 03:06 Kreuger wrote:Price distribution is out 1st: 150k USD 2nd: 65k USD 3-4: 30k USD Gamers8/20235k USD to just show up is nice
I'm not a fan of when 1st place prize is more than double 2nd place, but at least the prize seems distributed pretty nicely for the rest! And yeah very nice that those who qualified will make a few thousand, maybe pay $1k for flight and $1k for lodging.
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On August 01 2023 03:29 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2023 03:06 Kreuger wrote:Price distribution is out 1st: 150k USD 2nd: 65k USD 3-4: 30k USD Gamers8/20235k USD to just show up is nice I'm not a fan of when 1st place prize is more than double 2nd place, but at least the prize seems distributed pretty nicely for the rest! And yeah very nice that those who qualified will make a few thousand, maybe pay $1k for flight and $1k for lodging.
Would assume since they qualified, travel and housing is paid for.
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So, anybody traveling there to watch the event? I think all players and casters have arrived, right?
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On August 01 2023 03:52 Kreuger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2023 03:29 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On August 01 2023 03:06 Kreuger wrote:Price distribution is out 1st: 150k USD 2nd: 65k USD 3-4: 30k USD Gamers8/20235k USD to just show up is nice I'm not a fan of when 1st place prize is more than double 2nd place, but at least the prize seems distributed pretty nicely for the rest! And yeah very nice that those who qualified will make a few thousand, maybe pay $1k for flight and $1k for lodging. Would assume since they qualified, travel and housing is paid for.
Saudi always takes care of their players and athletes whenever they invite them out. No doubt. But even if they didn't the players have teams that afford flight and lodging.
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On August 01 2023 13:22 tigera6 wrote:
So, anybody traveling there to watch the event? I think all players and casters have arrived, right?
Pretty sure all the talent are there now. Should have mediaday and dry runs to have everything in check for the tournament
On August 01 2023 14:26 CicadaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2023 03:52 Kreuger wrote:On August 01 2023 03:29 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On August 01 2023 03:06 Kreuger wrote:Price distribution is out 1st: 150k USD 2nd: 65k USD 3-4: 30k USD Gamers8/20235k USD to just show up is nice I'm not a fan of when 1st place prize is more than double 2nd place, but at least the prize seems distributed pretty nicely for the rest! And yeah very nice that those who qualified will make a few thousand, maybe pay $1k for flight and $1k for lodging. Would assume since they qualified, travel and housing is paid for. Saudi always takes care of their players and athletes whenever they invite them out. No doubt. But even if they didn't the players have teams that afford flight and lodging.
Yeah. Im sure the saudis are quite generous on that aswell
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go, go Elazer ! go, go Spirit !
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On July 30 2023 08:20 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2023 08:05 Balnazza wrote:On July 30 2023 07:45 Die4Ever wrote:On July 29 2023 22:56 WombaT wrote:
It’ll no doubt be a hyped watch, and I like the bracket format chosen too.
Really, really not what SC2 actually needs is another big money tournament for the top players around though.
On top of an exhibition tournament of undoubtedly rusty legends with double the prize pool of the last GSL season?
Yeah that’ll really help the scene…
Compared to the money needed to gain traction in Formula One or football, eSports bar to entering the scene as a big player and host is absolutely minuscule, I’m still equally as wary of the underlying motivations. We haven't seen the prize distribution yet, have we? It could be a good spread with high payouts to the bottom players. I mean yeah for a healthier scene they would've given money to more than just top 16 players but it's not like this is hurting the scene. If it were Blizzard or ESL funding this it would be one thing, but this just seems like someone (or multiple people?) throwing money at their own entertainment lol, we're lucky that it's us and not some other game. Apparently there are atleast 12 different games that get money thrown at during this event. It is just sportswashing, so of course the TO tries to get as many top players as possible. Not much use to invest in lower level players if you just want to connect with a younger audience fast Holy crap 12 games lol, how rich are these people?
They have a combined 45.000.000,- $ price pool across ~ 12 games with Dota 2 getting 15 mio alone
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Canada8991 Posts
On July 30 2023 08:20 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2023 08:05 Balnazza wrote:On July 30 2023 07:45 Die4Ever wrote:On July 29 2023 22:56 WombaT wrote:
It’ll no doubt be a hyped watch, and I like the bracket format chosen too.
Really, really not what SC2 actually needs is another big money tournament for the top players around though.
On top of an exhibition tournament of undoubtedly rusty legends with double the prize pool of the last GSL season?
Yeah that’ll really help the scene…
Compared to the money needed to gain traction in Formula One or football, eSports bar to entering the scene as a big player and host is absolutely minuscule, I’m still equally as wary of the underlying motivations. We haven't seen the prize distribution yet, have we? It could be a good spread with high payouts to the bottom players. I mean yeah for a healthier scene they would've given money to more than just top 16 players but it's not like this is hurting the scene. If it were Blizzard or ESL funding this it would be one thing, but this just seems like someone (or multiple people?) throwing money at their own entertainment lol, we're lucky that it's us and not some other game. Apparently there are atleast 12 different games that get money thrown at during this event. It is just sportswashing, so of course the TO tries to get as many top players as possible. Not much use to invest in lower level players if you just want to connect with a younger audience fast Holy crap 12 games lol, how rich are these people?
Well they are considering paying Mbappe A BILLION dollars. So you know, quite rich.
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looks like everyone's blowing Saudi's **** for their money
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Anyone planning to make the LR thread? I would but I'm traveling. I feel like this is such a big tournament it deserves an early LR thread
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This is exciting stuff.
The $ definitely helps to keep the top players going. And bringing the old legends back? Can't wait to see them play, wonder if they will bring some of the oldest builds back, or follow today's meta.
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Imagine if MC winning this in the face of Protoss current balance and use his famous catch phrase.
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On August 03 2023 11:09 tigera6 wrote:
Imagine if MC winning this in the face of Protoss current balance and use his famous catch phrase.
Bitch, please!
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Calender says this event starts in 5 hours. Anyone making a LR thread?
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EPT
