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CicadaSC
United States1865 Posts
On January 06 2023 01:56 Legan wrote: Sinistro commented in Reddit that people should be more reasonable with their expectations regarding when the maps are actually put to ladder. I feel like we've waited a reasonable amount of time. Players want the new maps out there a little before Katowice as was communicated to them, not last minute. | ||
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Legan
Finland560 Posts
On January 06 2023 08:45 CicadaSC wrote: I feel like we've waited a reasonable amount of time. Players want the new maps out there a little before Katowice as was communicated to them, not last minute. I think the comment was made because people jumped on the maintenance date as if it was confirmed to have the patch and maps, and not as Blizzard should not be expected to be ready to push the changes at this point. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8245 Posts
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StasisField
United States1086 Posts
On January 05 2023 16:21 ZeroByte13 wrote: Even if it's ZvZ finals with 3 Z in semifinals?  It's the final tournament of the season. Wouldn't have it any other way  | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1865 Posts
On January 10 2023 13:02 geokilla wrote: Watching these maps being played on ESL Open Cup and man they're big. It's so Zerg and Protoss favoured. How can Terran win at the highest level? big maps are good for terran vs protoss with good dropship play. it only gets tricky if you want to play ghost liberator style | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom1399 Posts
On January 10 2023 13:02 geokilla wrote: Watching these maps being played on ESL Open Cup and man they're big. It's so Zerg and Protoss favoured. How can Terran win at the highest level? Maps were too small for a couple of years, just right for a couple of years, and have been too big for almost 10 years tbh. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9033 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
We're looking at a historically huge map pool, with a historic number of bases per player. | ||
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buzz_bender
445 Posts
On January 13 2023 08:56 Vindicare605 wrote: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/10a33ye/infographics_of_new_maps_as_of_jan_2023/ We're looking at a historically huge map pool, with a historic number of bases per player. Seems to be more and more likely a Zerg champion again? This is beginning to feel like 2019, where the maps were hugely Zerg favoured and Broodlord infestor meta. It's not as bad, but it does feel like there's an air on inevitability. I wonder how the players are feeling. With the latest version of the patch, it doesn't feel as bad as the buffs are toned down. But I think the balance with the maps is something that most people have not talked about. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
It's a complete farce if this balance patch goes through for Katowice though. It's literally the final event of the circuit, why the hell would you change things now? Especially because this patch is quite shit, at best it's controversial and highly experimental. They're still making random changes back and forth, showing that these aren't solutions they've already figured out and decided on, it's all trial and error. People's livelihoods are on the line, just keep it on the same patch and change things after... | ||
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TequilaMockingbird
Germany64 Posts
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tigera6
3465 Posts
On January 14 2023 03:02 TequilaMockingbird wrote: What exactly are we waiting for at this point ? Surely they will not switch the maps a week before katowice, right ? The map has already been announced so thats confirmed. We are still waiting for the patch. | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
Over the 311 pro games played with the new map pool on Liquipedia's map statistics: TvZ - 52% PvZ - 36.9% TvP - 64.1% https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/10hxx2r/winrates_on_the_new_map_pool/ | ||
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Kantuva
Uruguay209 Posts
On January 13 2023 08:56 Vindicare605 wrote: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/10a33ye/infographics_of_new_maps_as_of_jan_2023/ We're looking at a historically huge map pool, with a historic number of bases per player. "We're looking at a historically huge map pool..." Just sharing this one here too: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/wT26oum.png) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/cGi10Mc.png) From: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19YltZj0X8NMY93RTjDEuZUbmLZaTY8WY5Jqq02WSQX8/edit#gid=0 And Rush Distances: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/Gdhj6Db.png) From: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dY8Q4LCKT95cQNyfgLcyA3nB7RF2cWQRFwKA9yEWxT0/edit?usp=sharing Thanks to OmniSkeptic for updating these made by me and Avex with the latest maps  | ||
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
I insta lost 1 pvz cause if you put thepylon the regular spot it blocks your nexus... But appart from that the maps seem to have pretty exposed 4rth bases | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On January 23 2023 06:54 Kantuva wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 13 2023 08:56 Vindicare605 wrote: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/10a33ye/infographics_of_new_maps_as_of_jan_2023/ We're looking at a historically huge map pool, with a historic number of bases per player. "We're looking at a historically huge map pool..." Just sharing this one here too: From: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19YltZj0X8NMY93RTjDEuZUbmLZaTY8WY5Jqq02WSQX8/edit#gid=0 And Rush Distances: From: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dY8Q4LCKT95cQNyfgLcyA3nB7RF2cWQRFwKA9yEWxT0/edit?usp=sharing Thanks to OmniSkeptic for updating these made by me and Avex with the latest maps Man, reading those map names is a trip. Between Echo and Prion Terraces, I don't recognise any of them. I have no explanation for this. Also, I don't understand the order of the maps. It says "Old to new" but Frost is definitely older than Ulrena or Prion Terraces. Why is Daybreak between New Gettysburg and Habitation Station? Daybreak's one of the defining Wings of Liberty maps. Habitation Station is Heart of the Swarm, and New Gettysburg is Legacy of the Void. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16044 Posts
On January 27 2023 12:14 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Man, reading those map names is a trip. Between Echo and Prion Terraces, I don't recognise any of them. I have no explanation for this. Also, I don't understand the order of the maps. It says "Old to new" but Frost is definitely older than Ulrena or Prion Terraces. Why is Daybreak between New Gettysburg and Habitation Station? Daybreak's one of the defining Wings of Liberty maps. Habitation Station is Heart of the Swarm, and New Gettysburg is Legacy of the Void. It considers only LotV maps. Daybreak and Habitation Station were at one point in the LotV map pool. The order is correct | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On January 28 2023 01:50 Charoisaur wrote: It considers only LotV maps. Daybreak and Habitation Station were at one point in the LotV map pool. The order is correct Correct for what? I still don't know what the order is based on. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16044 Posts
On January 28 2023 05:29 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Correct for what? I still don't know what the order is based on. chronological order when they were in the map pool | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On January 28 2023 17:34 Charoisaur wrote: chronological order when they were in the map pool Got it. Thanks. | ||
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