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[TSL 9] TIME's replacement, UK Barcrafts

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SeaGnome
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States32 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-29 13:58:31
August 17 2022 16:45 GMT
#1
TSL 9 Logo





Hello everyone! After speaking with (Wiki)TIME and KaiZi, it looks like TIME will be unable to acquire a visa in time for TSL 9, and we are looking to replace him for the event. The event was communicated as a two stage competition with an offline portion since the initial announcement in June. In this situation, the player did not properly apply for a visa in time and was unable to travel to TSL.

Similar to our previous ruling on Neeb, we will have (Wiki)HeRoMaRinE and (Wiki)Astrea compete for the final spot, and move (Wiki)Lambo from the Lower bracket to the Upper Bracket in TIME’s place. Rotterdam will be covering it on his stream, scheduled to start at Sunday, Aug 21 1:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

In more positive news, if you happen to live in or near the UK, we’ve had interest from several bars in holding barcraft events for our finals on September 4th! We’re sending them each care packages of Team Liquid, TSL 9, and some other goodies from our partners to hand out to attendees! Those that attend can expect to have an awesome time meeting other SC2 fans, and we’ll be looking to get some crowd shots as well.
Here are the locations we're planning on officially supporting:
  • Saturday - Meltdown London
  • Sunday - Sidequest Gamers Hub (London)
  • Sunday - Pixel Bar Leeds


We're also happy to support other locations, given enough notice! If you want to organize a barcraft in your area, please reach out once you have a venue and rough guesstimate on headcount.
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4378 Posts
August 17 2022 19:45 GMT
#2
I thought it was already confirmed that Time would be allowed to play online if he couldn't make it? I distinctly remember that being said somewhere and I thought it was an official source.

Also for Lambo in the upper bracket wouldn't it be more fair to have a playoff between Lambo/Gumiho/herO since they all lost in the same round (would include Neeb as well but he already dropped out)? Giving him a bye because his opponent got DQ'd is odd.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1455 Posts
August 17 2022 20:00 GMT
#3
Question, how do these replacements effect the TSL Bracket Contest?
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-18 18:43:10
August 17 2022 20:12 GMT
#4
Myself and many other UK SC2 celebrities will be going to the Sidequest Gamers Hub barcraft in London .
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
August 17 2022 20:15 GMT
#5
I'm sad that TIME contributed to knocking Creator out of the tournament, only to be disqualified and replaced
Tao367
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom324 Posts
August 17 2022 20:35 GMT
#6
Wow the UK scene is passionate
MarsBar
Profile Joined February 2020
7 Posts
August 17 2022 21:07 GMT
#7
These UK barcrafts are popping off :O
CaRn1FeX
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany203 Posts
August 17 2022 21:16 GMT
#8
On August 18 2022 04:45 JJH777 wrote:
Also for Lambo in the upper bracket wouldn't it be more fair to have a playoff between Lambo/Gumiho/herO since they all lost in the same round (would include Neeb as well but he already dropped out)? Giving him a bye because his opponent got DQ'd is odd.


Agrred. It would be the exact same approach as for Neeb's replacement in that case. Not doing so is kinda inconsistent.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4378 Posts
August 17 2022 21:28 GMT
#9
Found the post in question:

On August 06 2022 03:07 SeaGnome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2022 02:46 Elentos wrote:
So will TIME play top 12 online or be forced to forfeit? Or does TSL cover flight costs that exceed the prize money for 2nd place?


We're working with TIME and KaiZi Gaming to go through all the proper channels so he can make it to Utrecht, with Team Liquid covering the travel expenses. If it's unfortunately not possible, we will allow TIME to play online.


I guess if it's been determined that it's Times fault rather than due to logistics or expenses it makes sense. Still disappointing. Out of the upper bracket players he was the one I was most interested in seeing how they did in the offline portion.
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
August 17 2022 21:45 GMT
#10
thats sad, he was doing really well.
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tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States361 Posts
August 17 2022 22:33 GMT
#11
Really unfortunate to hear TIME wasn’t able to secure a visa in time.
Wish I could join in one of those Barcrafts.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
August 17 2022 22:53 GMT
#12
I know it's a lot of work to organize events and I'm thankful for the TSL crew to keep us updated, but at the same time, I feel like this is an issue that really could have been address earlier.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
August 17 2022 23:39 GMT
#13
And Aligulac will continue to be biased against him for reasons like this. He was far and away the best non-Korean Terran at this tournament.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
uselless
Profile Joined April 2021
89 Posts
August 18 2022 00:02 GMT
#14
On August 18 2022 08:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
And Aligulac will continue to be biased against him for reasons like this. He was far and away the best non-Korean Terran at this tournament.

As much as I think Clem is overrated, I still don't think TIME is better; that said, I think he might be the second best non-Korean Terran, maybe roughly equal to HM
maru :D
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-18 01:18:19
August 18 2022 01:16 GMT
#15
On August 18 2022 09:02 uselless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2022 08:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
And Aligulac will continue to be biased against him for reasons like this. He was far and away the best non-Korean Terran at this tournament.

As much as I think Clem is overrated, I still don't think TIME is better; that said, I think he might be the second best non-Korean Terran, maybe roughly equal to HM

HM isn't playing very well recently and Clem also seems to be going through a rough patch, so TIME is arguably the best non-Korean Terran atm. Sadly we probably won't know for sure unless TIME starts getting to travel to more international events.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3220 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-18 02:36:06
August 18 2022 02:33 GMT
#16
On August 18 2022 06:16 CaRn1FeX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2022 04:45 JJH777 wrote:
Also for Lambo in the upper bracket wouldn't it be more fair to have a playoff between Lambo/Gumiho/herO since they all lost in the same round (would include Neeb as well but he already dropped out)? Giving him a bye because his opponent got DQ'd is odd.


Agrred. It would be the exact same approach as for Neeb's replacement in that case. Not doing so is kinda inconsistent.

If I am a conspiracy theorist, I would say that they want to make sure herO and Maru taking each other out in the Lower Bracket, and EU has all 4 slots in the upper bracket showing their "might" against the woeful KR.

However, the actual situation is that, you would have to get 2 play-in round, one for the upper and one for the lower, which is an hassle for them. But then again, what make Lambo having priority over herO and Gumiho other than he play Time in the previous round is beyond me. I thought in case like this, EPT point should be a good indicator.
xiaodangao
Profile Joined August 2022
5 Posts
August 18 2022 05:28 GMT
#17
If the tiebreaker is so complicated that it can not satify everyone.It is better to let Time play online
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4378 Posts
August 18 2022 05:53 GMT
#18
On August 18 2022 14:28 xiaodangao wrote:
If the tiebreaker is so complicated that it can not satify everyone.It is better to let Time play online


Especially since an admin stated they would before.
olimoley
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States742 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-18 06:23:09
August 18 2022 06:06 GMT
#19
We cannot allow a player to play online when the reason the player cannot attend is that they didn't gather the proper documents for their visa.

We understand it is difficult to travel in certain countries and we are willing to meet players halfway when we can. However, it is a player's personal responsibility to gather the proper documents to travel, to check their school schedule before attending, or to confirm their military obligations before participating in TSL.
Events Manager, Team Liquid - Creator of OlimoLeague
t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
182 Posts
August 18 2022 06:10 GMT
#20
I really disagree with the choice of replacing Time with Lambo so easily.

If you want to punish time for not being there you could always give the opponent the server choice.

If you want all people to be there in person why should lambo (lost 0-2) take precedence over hero (lost 1-2) or gumiho (0-2 too)?
Organise another round robin between the 3 aforementioned players for the UB slot and a straight bo5 for HM and Astrea for the new LB slot.
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