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Current Status on Protoss' Property Expansion:

Should Protoss have a ___

Window - https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/563741-should-protoss-have-a-window
Wine Barrel - https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/563638-should-protoss-have-a-wine-barrel
Cellar - https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/563637-should-protosss-have-a-cellar
Jacuzzi - https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/563693-should-protoss-have-a-jacuzzi
Door - https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/563613-should-protoss-have-a-door
Courtyard - https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/563743-megathread-should-protoss-have-a-___#10
Garden - https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/563743-megathread-should-protoss-have-a-___#18
Forest Cities - https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/563743-megathread-should-protoss-have-a-___#19
Pagoda - https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/563743-megathread-should-protoss-have-a-___?page=3#60
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
September 30 2020 04:06 GMT
#1
Let's just make this easy for everyone.

https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/563741-should-protoss-have-a-window

https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/563638-should-protoss-have-a-wine-barrel

https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/563637-should-protosss-have-a-cellar

https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/563693-should-protoss-have-a-jacuzzi

https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/563613-should-protoss-have-a-door

Discuss.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 30 2020 04:07 GMT
#2
Wild
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LHK
Profile Joined May 2015
204 Posts
September 30 2020 04:13 GMT
#3
Should Protoss have a Megathread?
-Laura
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-30 04:24:19
September 30 2020 04:22 GMT
#4
The community thinks this is all fun and games, what they don't know is that this was a movement started by Blizzard to brainstorm ideas for Starcraft 3.

And the future is looking bright.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 30 2020 04:30 GMT
#5
This thread is a step forward for Protoss Interior Design.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
September 30 2020 04:31 GMT
#6
On September 30 2020 13:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
This thread is a step forward for Protoss Interior Design.

They are definitely in need of some QoL changes
Faker is the GOAT!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 30 2020 04:34 GMT
#7
So when is Starcraft Sims coming out?
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 30 2020 04:34 GMT
#8
RIP to the two closed threads that were too early in time
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10688 Posts
September 30 2020 05:03 GMT
#9
Should thread etiquette be enforced more strictly like it used to? lol
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
September 30 2020 05:18 GMT
#10
Should protoss have a courtyard

Statue of Fenix in a courtyard would be really nice I think
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1849 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-30 05:57:18
September 30 2020 05:36 GMT
#11
protoss need to be turned into sushi
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 30 2020 05:40 GMT
#12
i feel like protoss needs an open concept. knock down those walls, let the lings come in from the north
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 30 2020 06:00 GMT
#13
On September 30 2020 14:40 Alejandrisha wrote:
i feel like protoss needs an open concept. knock down those walls, let the lings come in from the north

So you want hybrids?
MaxPax
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
September 30 2020 06:02 GMT
#14
Wine-Barrel is the hero we all deserve.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 30 2020 06:16 GMT
#15
On September 30 2020 15:00 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2020 14:40 Alejandrisha wrote:
i feel like protoss needs an open concept. knock down those walls, let the lings come in from the north

So you want hybrids?

2 hybrids in every protoss garage
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4385 Posts
September 30 2020 06:30 GMT
#16
Ahahahaha I didn't even realize the wine barrel and cellar threads existed

Let us come together and plan the home Protoss truly deserves

Sucker for nostalgia
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
September 30 2020 06:36 GMT
#17
Should Protoss even exist?
Chemist391
Profile Joined October 2010
United States366 Posts
September 30 2020 06:48 GMT
#18
Protoss needs a garden. You heard it here first, folks.

What a God awful thread post. NaDa's body is rolling in its silky bed.
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
September 30 2020 06:57 GMT
#19
Should Protoss have forest cities?
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4385 Posts
September 30 2020 07:08 GMT
#20
[image loading]

How it all started indeed. Perfect lineup of threads
Sucker for nostalgia
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
September 30 2020 07:14 GMT
#21
TL is a weird and wonderful place.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary405 Posts
September 30 2020 07:22 GMT
#22
I don't know if anyone asked this lately, but
Should Protoss have a premier tournament champion in the next 5 years?

I mean everyone seems to hate the dirty Protoss,
there is that elitist terran bias on tl.net all over the place,
but they might actually deserve it. Probably. Just one to keep them trying.

Although that blue dude looks suspicious in the jacuzzi.

*** gogo MaxPax, Showtime, Partingü <- shout out to the new hope, the calm, and the insane guy ***
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 30 2020 07:25 GMT
#23
a premiere championship would be nice but oooo i would love a shiny audi instead
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-30 07:47:24
September 30 2020 07:47 GMT
#24
On September 30 2020 16:22 bela.mervado wrote:
I don't know if anyone asked this lately, but
Should Protoss have a premier tournament champion in the next 5 years?

I mean everyone seems to hate the dirty Protoss,
there is that elitist terran bias on tl.net all over the place,
but they might actually deserve it. Probably. Just one to keep them trying.

Although that blue dude looks suspicious in the jacuzzi.

*** gogo MaxPax, Showtime, Partingü <- shout out to the new hope, the calm, and the insane guy ***


Isn t that a bit unrealistic? Let s stic with reasonable life goals for now and hope for a jacuzzi instead
MaxPax
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 30 2020 08:08 GMT
#25
On September 30 2020 16:22 bela.mervado wrote:
I don't know if anyone asked this lately, but
Should Protoss have a premier tournament champion in the next 5 years?

I mean everyone seems to hate the dirty Protoss,
there is that elitist terran bias on tl.net all over the place,
but they might actually deserve it. Probably. Just one to keep them trying.

Although that blue dude looks suspicious in the jacuzzi.

*** gogo MaxPax, Showtime, Partingü <- shout out to the new hope, the calm, and the insane guy ***

Technically speaking they should. But it will be hard, considering the amount of 2nd places they gathered and that their championship material from the past 3 years are Neeb(NA only nowadays), Stats(who needs like gazillion tries for 1 title) and Classic(who's creating the strategy to beat the evil twin brother of Korea). So, it all boils down to the question - has Stats accumulated enough 2nd places to win something now? I don't know. In the end, Protoss is the Kong race
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Sprog
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand83 Posts
September 30 2020 08:35 GMT
#26
On September 30 2020 16:22 bela.mervado wrote:
I don't know if anyone asked this lately, but
Should Protoss have a premier tournament champion in the next 5 years?

I mean everyone seems to hate the dirty Protoss,
there is that elitist terran bias on tl.net all over the place,
but they might actually deserve it. Probably. Just one to keep them trying.

Although that blue dude looks suspicious in the jacuzzi.

*** gogo MaxPax, Showtime, Partingü <- shout out to the new hope, the calm, and the insane guy ***


Love me some MaxPax, Showtime and Parting. Lets do a Protoss only GSL
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
September 30 2020 09:06 GMT
#27
On September 30 2020 13:34 Pandain wrote:
RIP to the two closed threads that were too early in time


In that respect the politics of Protoss Interior Design is like all politics.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4739 Posts
September 30 2020 09:21 GMT
#28
Jacuzzi - obviously
Cellar - yes with pet zergling inside
Wine barrel - more than one
Guest House - for visiting Terrans
Garden - with psionic crystals and purple flowers
Kitchen - making food for pet zergling
Pathetic Greta hater.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
September 30 2020 10:22 GMT
#29
Should Protoss have a widdle baby bottle to suck on when they see zerglings getting into their base and start to cry? I personally believe this would be a highly effective change and would be to the benefit of all StarCraft players.

User was warned for this post.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 30 2020 10:54 GMT
#30
On September 30 2020 19:22 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Should Protoss have a widdle baby bottle to suck on when they see zerglings getting into their base and start to cry? I personally believe this would be a highly effective change and would be to the benefit of all StarCraft players.

yusssss
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
September 30 2020 10:57 GMT
#31
On September 30 2020 19:54 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2020 19:22 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Should Protoss have a widdle baby bottle to suck on when they see zerglings getting into their base and start to cry? I personally believe this would be a highly effective change and would be to the benefit of all StarCraft players.

yusssss

I think instead, protoss should have a therapist to work on the mental health issues lings running into your base enforce.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
September 30 2020 11:03 GMT
#32
Protoss should be able to mind control queens and inject their nexus.
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
September 30 2020 11:27 GMT
#33
Inject the queens' nexus?
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 30 2020 13:04 GMT
#34
On September 30 2020 19:57 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2020 19:54 Alejandrisha wrote:
On September 30 2020 19:22 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Should Protoss have a widdle baby bottle to suck on when they see zerglings getting into their base and start to cry? I personally believe this would be a highly effective change and would be to the benefit of all StarCraft players.

yusssss

I think instead, protoss should have a therapist to work on the mental health issues lings running into your base enforce.

jas beeean
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland539 Posts
September 30 2020 13:05 GMT
#35
I really think that Protoss needs something back, that they lost, and that is a toilet, preferably the archon kind.
Creator of Gresvan, Tropical Sacrifice, Taitalika, and Golden Forge
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
September 30 2020 13:21 GMT
#36
What Protoss really needs is a time-machine.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Jan1997
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Norway671 Posts
September 30 2020 13:35 GMT
#37
Imho as a Terran I would love to have a parking lot next to the protoss base where the protoss can't attack my units. I could park my hellions,tanks and thors there and pay the protoss maybe like 100 minerals in rent every two minutes while waiting for the rest of my mech army to setup.

This would also be preferable from a Terran point of view as protoss will no longer be able to attack me else I could leave his parking lot and go kill his workers and bang his oracle while he's not at home.
Do something today that your future self will be thankful for.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3463 Posts
September 30 2020 14:49 GMT
#38
On September 30 2020 22:05 Legan wrote:
I really think that Protoss needs something back, that they lost, and that is a toilet, preferably the archon kind.

Beautifully said..

I had an idea before Oracle got Stasis Trap. It was for Nexus to have an ability to blow up a Pylon on the map and it would stun units around it after a small activation time. Shortly after you'd still be able to Warp In units as there would lay Protoss crystals on the ground. It probably wouldn't be powerful since Pylons die so quickly, but it would be a neat trick. Stun units, Warp In, fight, fight. What would you call this ability? a Protoss Parasol?
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 30 2020 15:30 GMT
#39
Protoss should have a food eating contest. How many hotdogs could one protoss eat? Will they finally reveal their mouths?
Neosteel Enthusiast
Pentarp
Profile Joined August 2015
224 Posts
September 30 2020 15:44 GMT
#40
Should Protoss have a difficult to control army? + Show Spoiler +
instead of casting spells then a-move
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 30 2020 16:45 GMT
#41
On October 01 2020 00:44 Pentarp wrote:
Should Protoss have a difficult to control army? + Show Spoiler +
instead of casting spells then a-move

Thank god it's so easy Protoss wins tourneys left and right~!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 30 2020 16:55 GMT
#42
On September 30 2020 15:00 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2020 14:40 Alejandrisha wrote:
i feel like protoss needs an open concept. knock down those walls, let the lings come in from the north

So you want hybrids?

Should protoss have HydraRoach?
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Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
September 30 2020 18:16 GMT
#43
On October 01 2020 01:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2020 15:00 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 30 2020 14:40 Alejandrisha wrote:
i feel like protoss needs an open concept. knock down those walls, let the lings come in from the north

So you want hybrids?

Should protoss have HydraRoach?

But what happens when the HydraRoach burrows? Does the Hydra still remain above ground? Can a HydraRoach be detached from itself if the hydra is killed? I don’t think we should give Toss a HydraRoach-Like unit without answering these issues.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 30 2020 18:28 GMT
#44
On October 01 2020 03:16 Husyelt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2020 01:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 30 2020 15:00 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 30 2020 14:40 Alejandrisha wrote:
i feel like protoss needs an open concept. knock down those walls, let the lings come in from the north

So you want hybrids?

Should protoss have HydraRoach?

But what happens when the HydraRoach burrows? Does the Hydra still remain above ground? Can a HydraRoach be detached from itself if the hydra is killed? I don’t think we should give Toss a HydraRoach-Like unit without answering these issues.

If you burrow once you have a hydra sitting on the ground that can detach from the roach, if you burrow twice the whole thing burrows. If you unburrow twice the hydraroach emerges. If the Hydra dies, then math tells us you end with a roach.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 30 2020 19:32 GMT
#45
On October 01 2020 03:28 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2020 03:16 Husyelt wrote:
On October 01 2020 01:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 30 2020 15:00 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 30 2020 14:40 Alejandrisha wrote:
i feel like protoss needs an open concept. knock down those walls, let the lings come in from the north

So you want hybrids?

Should protoss have HydraRoach?

But what happens when the HydraRoach burrows? Does the Hydra still remain above ground? Can a HydraRoach be detached from itself if the hydra is killed? I don’t think we should give Toss a HydraRoach-Like unit without answering these issues.

If you burrow once you have a hydra sitting on the ground that can detach from the roach, if you burrow twice the whole thing burrows. If you unburrow twice the hydraroach emerges. If the Hydra dies, then math tells us you end with a roach.

Protoss needs Thoruss. It will be a colossu and under it thor. BAM!
Strong anti-air. Check.
Strong anti-ground. Check.
Can walk above cliffs. Check!

Bonus points for looking like an octopus riding into the battle!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
La1
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom659 Posts
September 30 2020 19:43 GMT
#46
Protoss should have zealots that deal +8 damage on charge.
Observer move speed should be increased.
High Templar feedback should deal 1 damage (up from 0.5)
Warp Prism should cost 200 minerals.
Feedback range should be 10 not 9

:D basically revert to an old patch.
pff
ZiZzy
Profile Joined March 2020
Germany7 Posts
September 30 2020 19:45 GMT
#47
Dark Archons
blue Archons with Blink
Blackjack and Hookers
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-30 20:00:20
September 30 2020 19:59 GMT
#48
Should protoss have a chance to win?
EDIT: not esl cups once in a while. But premier tournaments.
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
September 30 2020 20:15 GMT
#49
Should Protoss have left their reavers on Shakuras?
twitch.tv/duttroach
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-30 20:54:12
September 30 2020 20:27 GMT
#50
Should forums be able to have a logical, civil and evidence-based discussion?

No...apparently not
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Jan1997
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Norway671 Posts
September 30 2020 21:23 GMT
#51
TL Mods when they realise this discussion has turned into a shitpost thread.

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Do something today that your future self will be thankful for.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
September 30 2020 21:43 GMT
#52
wat
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
September 30 2020 21:50 GMT
#53
wow posting memes on TL balls of steel bruv
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Sprog
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand83 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-30 22:31:53
September 30 2020 22:30 GMT
#54
On October 01 2020 04:43 La1 wrote:
Protoss should have zealots that deal +8 damage on charge.
Observer move speed should be increased.
High Templar feedback should deal 1 damage (up from 0.5)
Warp Prism should cost 200 minerals.
Feedback range should be 10 not 9

:D basically revert to an old patch.


Dragoons added to the game.

Storm is no longer an upgrade and comes for free with HT.

Khadarian Amulet added back as an upgrade.

Sentries start with +100 energy || FF cost 10 energy
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
September 30 2020 22:48 GMT
#55
On October 01 2020 07:30 Sprog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2020 04:43 La1 wrote:
Protoss should have zealots that deal +8 damage on charge.
Observer move speed should be increased.
High Templar feedback should deal 1 damage (up from 0.5)
Warp Prism should cost 200 minerals.
Feedback range should be 10 not 9

:D basically revert to an old patch.


Dragoons added to the game.

Storm is no longer an upgrade and comes for free with HT.

Khadarian Amulet added back as an upgrade.

Sentries start with +100 energy || FF cost 10 energy


Dragoons were taken out? I'm just busting balls...

Check this out (unrelated to previous patches):

Baneling is now an light unit.

Psionic storm damage increased +3 per tick vs biological units. (chance to play with numbers)

Disruptor replaced with reaver. Reaver scarab AI improved.

Forcefield takes two hits with corrosive bile to be completely destroyed. Following the first hit the forcefield's radius is reduced by 1 unit.
twitch.tv/duttroach
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
September 30 2020 23:06 GMT
#56
On October 01 2020 07:30 Sprog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2020 04:43 La1 wrote:
Protoss should have zealots that deal +8 damage on charge.
Observer move speed should be increased.
High Templar feedback should deal 1 damage (up from 0.5)
Warp Prism should cost 200 minerals.
Feedback range should be 10 not 9

:D basically revert to an old patch.


Dragoons added to the game.

Storm is no longer an upgrade and comes for free with HT.

Khadarian Amulet added back as an upgrade.

Sentries start with +100 energy || FF cost 10 energy


Could you *imagine* 10 forcefields per sentry when they spawn?

The soul train would be back with a vengeance!
Cereal
Sprog
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand83 Posts
September 30 2020 23:14 GMT
#57
10 force fields for free does sound a bit much.

Imagine a 100g 50m unit that when it spawns it can cast 1 force field which is killed by a 7s cooldown ravager bile? It only takes another ~64 in game seconds to get enough energy to cast another one.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
October 01 2020 00:04 GMT
#58
On October 01 2020 08:14 Sprog wrote:
10 force fields for free does sound a bit much.

Imagine a 100g 50m unit that when it spawns it can cast 1 force field which is killed by a 7s cooldown ravager bile? It only takes another ~64 in game seconds to get enough energy to cast another one.

10 energy force field is obviously insane. toss compositions are quite light on sentries in this iteration of sc2. not sure if this is because there are better things to spend gas on or if they are not viewed as effective as they once were. guardian shield is still a huuuge deal and generally the protoss is out of ffs after 1-2 engages where they use to be able to sustain through 4-5++
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Sprog
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand83 Posts
October 01 2020 00:25 GMT
#59
On October 01 2020 09:04 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2020 08:14 Sprog wrote:
10 force fields for free does sound a bit much.

Imagine a 100g 50m unit that when it spawns it can cast 1 force field which is killed by a 7s cooldown ravager bile? It only takes another ~64 in game seconds to get enough energy to cast another one.

10 energy force field is obviously insane. toss compositions are quite light on sentries in this iteration of sc2. not sure if this is because there are better things to spend gas on or if they are not viewed as effective as they once were. guardian shield is still a huuuge deal and generally the protoss is out of ffs after 1-2 engages where they use to be able to sustain through 4-5++


This thread is walking the fine line between actual serious suggestions for the game and nonsense
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-01 00:57:09
October 01 2020 00:42 GMT
#60
should protoss have a pagoda?

they could chill out there, do protoss things it be coo
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-01 01:03:59
October 01 2020 01:00 GMT
#61
Should Protoss even be in this game?

Pathetic bunch of losers, can't even defend their home-world. Grandpa Tassadar suicided to end his own misery, Sleepy Fenix on the wheel. SAD! #PROTOSSOUT #ZERGSUPREMERACE #TERRANLIVESSTILLMATTER
gg no re thx
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
October 01 2020 02:18 GMT
#62
On October 01 2020 10:00 RKC wrote:
Should Protoss even be in this game?

Pathetic bunch of losers, can't even defend their home-world. Grandpa Tassadar suicided to end his own misery, Sleepy Fenix on the wheel. SAD! #PROTOSSOUT #ZERGSUPREMERACE #TERRANLIVESSTILLMATTER

Hey man this really resonated with me, are you running for office any time soon?
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-01 04:04:03
October 01 2020 04:01 GMT
#63
On October 01 2020 06:23 Jan1997 wrote:
TL Mods when they realise this discussion has turned into a shitpost thread.

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It s allways has been a shitpost thread
I actually love it though.
In Times, when Terran was struggling the hardest, all the Terrans were complaining, about how their race is the hardest and live is unfair. When Protoss is struggling, we get a discuission about Protoss real estate, cooking and more
As a Protoss main, who hates Balance whiners from every race, I realy enjoy, that Protoss is less whiney
Yes it s still Balance whine, but it s in a funny way and less passive aggressive.
MaxPax
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 01 2020 04:08 GMT
#64
Arty can argue all he wants about Zest's contributions to protoss, nothing comes close to this.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4385 Posts
October 01 2020 04:32 GMT
#65
Do we need a nursery? I presume baby zealots aren't born full grown
Sucker for nostalgia
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 01 2020 04:39 GMT
#66
On October 01 2020 13:32 DropBear wrote:
Do we need a nursery? I presume baby zealots aren't born full grown

Depends on pylons
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States722 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-01 05:23:03
October 01 2020 05:16 GMT
#67
On October 01 2020 09:04 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2020 08:14 Sprog wrote:
10 force fields for free does sound a bit much.

Imagine a 100g 50m unit that when it spawns it can cast 1 force field which is killed by a 7s cooldown ravager bile? It only takes another ~64 in game seconds to get enough energy to cast another one.

10 energy force field is obviously insane. toss compositions are quite light on sentries in this iteration of sc2. not sure if this is because there are better things to spend gas on or if they are not viewed as effective as they once were. guardian shield is still a huuuge deal and generally the protoss is out of ffs after 1-2 engages where they use to be able to sustain through 4-5++


Forcefields are used throughout the midgame during army engagements, and since the protoss at this point have a bunch of sentries, ravager biles as a counter makes a lot of sense. I think that's one of the best dynamics that's been introduced in LotV.

In the early game though, T1 access to bile renders small numbers of sentries totally irrelevant.

In my opinion, the game would be best served by making hydras T1 and ravagers T2. If protoss can opt to build a gate to block the driveway in the early game (the forcefield), it should keep the enemies' cars out until T2 i figure.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
October 01 2020 08:22 GMT
#68
On October 01 2020 13:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
Arty can argue all he wants about Zest's contributions to protoss, nothing comes close to this.


Should Protoss have a gym?
gg no re thx
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
October 01 2020 09:31 GMT
#69
On September 30 2020 15:57 Superouman wrote:
Should Protoss have forest cities?

Next Map "Forrest Cities" is Protoss favoured then?
MaxPax
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4033 Posts
October 01 2020 10:19 GMT
#70
... camping tent
Drone is a way of living
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 01 2020 11:00 GMT
#71
Should we revive the Sad Zealot?!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
October 01 2020 11:14 GMT
#72
On October 01 2020 20:00 deacon.frost wrote:
Should we revive the Sad Zealot?!


Should Protoss have a safe space?
gg no re thx
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7023 Posts
October 01 2020 11:17 GMT
#73
Should Protoss have a graveyard to put all the dead momma ships and Protoss meme builds to grave?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4033 Posts
October 01 2020 11:19 GMT
#74
On October 01 2020 20:14 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2020 20:00 deacon.frost wrote:
Should we revive the Sad Zealot?!


Should Protoss have a safe space?


Yep and then we could balance the game by the percentage of cash protoss gains back from salvaging the safe space
Drone is a way of living
flightdelta
Profile Joined October 2020
1 Post
October 01 2020 11:30 GMT
#75
--- Nuked ---
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4739 Posts
October 01 2020 15:32 GMT
#76
I was coming back from work and realized that what Protoss really need is (Psi)Guillotine in the door. That way when unwated guests come like lingrunby or helions Protoss can just activiate it and shut it down. No need tot worry about safty of the premises (Mineral line etc.).
Pathetic Greta hater.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 01 2020 16:08 GMT
#77
On October 02 2020 00:32 Silvanel wrote:
I was coming back from work and realized that what Protoss really need is (Psi)Guillotine in the door. That way when unwated guests come like lingrunby or helions Protoss can just activiate it and shut it down. No need tot worry about safty of the premises (Mineral line etc.).

Like, you mean, a gate? ( https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Gate_(Age_of_Empires_II) )
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4739 Posts
October 01 2020 17:27 GMT
#78
Do they kill enemy units? Becuase thats kinda the point. We already have forcefield for temporary blockade.
Pathetic Greta hater.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 01 2020 17:54 GMT
#79
On October 02 2020 02:27 Silvanel wrote:
Do they kill enemy units? Becuase thats kinda the point. We already have forcefield for temporary blockade.

That's so uncivilized.


But let's face it, Protoss lack in the victory department. Thus I suggest that Protoss should have a good old Military Academy. The walls will be written by Sun Tzu's The Art of WAr, toilets will have miliatry motivational posters, the library will be full of books written by the greatest tacticians like Ceasar, Napoleon, AJ Rimmer! The greatest war minds will be having lectures there. In the middle of the academy will be a small garden where the future generals can meditate and clean their minds and think about murdering other armies in the most effecient way possible.

So, basically, Protoss needs the West Point academy
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
October 01 2020 18:14 GMT
#80
You know balance is in a bad state when TL allows shitpost megathreads about it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Sprog
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand83 Posts
October 02 2020 02:30 GMT
#81
On October 02 2020 01:08 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2020 00:32 Silvanel wrote:
I was coming back from work and realized that what Protoss really need is (Psi)Guillotine in the door. That way when unwated guests come like lingrunby or helions Protoss can just activiate it and shut it down. No need tot worry about safty of the premises (Mineral line etc.).

Like, you mean, a gate? ( https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Gate_(Age_of_Empires_II) )


This would be awesome, we'd have to have a DNA scanner to make sure zerg imposters convicing the guards to open the gate.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4385 Posts
October 02 2020 07:42 GMT
#82
What about a tower? Maybe with a telescope and see through one-way glass roof in all directions, could double as a mediation room for the templar
Sucker for nostalgia
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7023 Posts
October 02 2020 10:01 GMT
#83
On October 02 2020 11:30 Sprog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2020 01:08 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 02 2020 00:32 Silvanel wrote:
I was coming back from work and realized that what Protoss really need is (Psi)Guillotine in the door. That way when unwated guests come like lingrunby or helions Protoss can just activiate it and shut it down. No need tot worry about safty of the premises (Mineral line etc.).

Like, you mean, a gate? ( https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Gate_(Age_of_Empires_II) )


This would be awesome, we'd have to have a DNA scanner to make sure zerg imposters convicing the guards to open the gate.


Only with a real drawbridge! And space sharks in the moat (?)
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 02 2020 11:11 GMT
#84
On October 02 2020 19:01 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2020 11:30 Sprog wrote:
On October 02 2020 01:08 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 02 2020 00:32 Silvanel wrote:
I was coming back from work and realized that what Protoss really need is (Psi)Guillotine in the door. That way when unwated guests come like lingrunby or helions Protoss can just activiate it and shut it down. No need tot worry about safty of the premises (Mineral line etc.).

Like, you mean, a gate? ( https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Gate_(Age_of_Empires_II) )


This would be awesome, we'd have to have a DNA scanner to make sure zerg imposters convicing the guards to open the gate.


Only with a real drawbridge! And space sharks in the moat (?)


Oh no, imagine the PR disaster it will be when they put Abyssal Reef back in the map pool and all the probes are eaten by stray space sharks.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
October 02 2020 15:04 GMT
#85
I stand by the window, can't beat that.
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