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Man, starcraft 2 might really be a dead game if even its rookies are retiring.
Always sad to see someones dreams go unfulfilled.
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On August 27 2020 17:16 Russano wrote: Man, starcraft 2 might really be a dead game if even its Rookies are retiring.
Always sad to see someones dreams go unfulfilled. At least in Korea, not the foreign scene though
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It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.
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Do not worry, my friends, for the prophet Apollo foresaw this and uttered those words "The korean scene is healthy as fuck"
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On August 27 2020 17:39 Durnuu wrote: Do not worry, my friends, for the prophet Apollo foresaw this and uttered those words "The korean scene is healthy as fuck" I mean the kr scene got hit by the matchfix scandal harder than by region lock i'd say.
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On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote: It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.
I do not think we should still blame Blizzard for this. Korean interest in SC2 was declining well before the match-fixing scandal (the main reason is the audience looking towards team games) while the interest in the rest of the world was still stable, if not increasing. From the economic point of view Blizzard choice has been the right one: invest where you can obtain revenues.
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On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote: It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it. Let's not act like this is because of Blizzard. Seriously, they may have disrupted the scene a bit with their global efforts, but I don't think that's the reason Korean players are retiring. If anything, Blizzard's long-term financial support is the only reason it's made it out a decade.
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Czech Republic12128 Posts
On August 27 2020 17:39 Durnuu wrote: Do not worry, my friends, for the prophet Apollo foresaw this and uttered those words "The korean scene is healthy as fuck" Whut? Is there a source to that or is that some meme?
On August 27 2020 18:38 Parser wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote: It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it. I do not think we should still blame Blizzard for this. Korean interest in SC2 was declining well before the match-fixing scandal (the main reason is the audience looking towards team games) while the interest in the rest of the world was still stable, if not increasing. From the economic point of view Blizzard choice has been the right one: invest where you can obtain revenues. Considering the biggest hyped matches are foreigners vs Koreans, if you remove Koreans from the equation you lose the audience. Also it won't look good if the death of the SC2 proscene will be based on the Blizzard's decision(although it's not 100 % their fault). Not that it matter to the new Blizzard anymore, after the last few years I lost all hopes(and not because the SC related decisions)
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Northern Ireland23745 Posts
On August 27 2020 17:51 darklycid wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2020 17:39 Durnuu wrote: Do not worry, my friends, for the prophet Apollo foresaw this and uttered those words "The korean scene is healthy as fuck" I mean the kr scene got hit by the matchfix scandal harder than by region lock i'd say. Probably, seems a bigger factor to me. Brood War still being big in Korea is another huge factor.
That aside, wish Rookie luck in whatever he’s doing next. There are structural problems in Korean SC2 for sure, I don’t think Rookie struggling to break the barrier into Code S is particularly due to some of them though.
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it is blizzards fault. normally, when you release a new esports game, you shut down esports for the old installment. they shouldve just ended support and forbidden prize money tournaments for broodwar at the time they released sc2. maybe 1 year after sc2 was released to allow for a smooth transition.
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On August 27 2020 22:05 freelifeffs wrote: it is blizzards fault. normally, when you release a new esports game, you shut down esports for the old installment. they shouldve just ended support and forbidden prize money tournaments for broodwar at the time they released sc2. maybe 1 year after sc2 was released to allow for a smooth transition. It wasn't in the first year but ultimately this is practically what Blizzard did as they made KeSPA switch to SC2. Yeah spoiler alert, this was not well received in Korea and it didn't help SC2 in the long term.
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Username checks out according to his number of code S appearances.
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On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote: It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it. Blizzard was pumping money into kr scene since day 0 of sc2. How much money pumping does 1 nation needs compared to the rest of the globe? They even have there pretty much separate tournaments that pay just as well as global stuff.
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On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote: It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it. Who cares about Korea. Not like highest quality gameplay matters or anything.
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I get a little annoyed when every time someone retires people jump to blame Blizzard or ESL. Yes the korean scene is definitely not where it use to be because of military service leaves but did anyone consider maybe Rookie just felt enough was enough after trying for such a long time with little to show. You guys have to remember that SC2 is a big time sink and maybe Rookie had other ambitions at this point with military service done.
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On August 27 2020 22:05 freelifeffs wrote: it is blizzards fault. normally, when you release a new esports game, you shut down esports for the old installment. they shouldve just ended support and forbidden prize money tournaments for broodwar at the time they released sc2. maybe 1 year after sc2 was released to allow for a smooth transition. They tried that, but BW was too popular in Korea and the community refused to let it die. To this day BW is still more popular than SC2.
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Sad to hear about Rookies retirement. Wish him the best for future endeavours.
Unfortunately I have heard SpunXtain has also retired. I remember seeing his proxy base proxy barracks strategy on Scrap Station it was very innovative.
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On August 28 2020 03:09 skdsk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote: It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it. Blizzard was pumping money into kr scene since day 0 of sc2. How much money pumping does 1 nation needs compared to the rest of the globe? They even have there pretty much separate tournaments that pay just as well as global stuff. That's one way to spin "they're banned from competing in many tournaments" I guess.
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