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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-29 07:35:04
August 27 2020 07:42 GMT
#1
According to a Tweet made by (Wiki)Team GP, their Korean Terran (Wiki)Rookie will retire today upon the end of his contract with the organization.

I've heard before that Rookie was considering retirement if he didn't make it into GSL Code S, so it seems like he has indeed decided to move on with his life after failing to qualify again.

Rookie started out on CJ Entus in 2016 and went on a hiatus after the KeSPA team disbanded. He tried to come back into the pro scene afterwards, but was unable to make an impact.



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Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-27 08:20:26
August 27 2020 08:16 GMT
#2
Man, starcraft 2 might really be a dead game if even its rookies are retiring.

Always sad to see someones dreams go unfulfilled.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2116 Posts
August 27 2020 08:18 GMT
#3
On August 27 2020 17:16 Russano wrote:
Man, starcraft 2 might really be a dead game if even its Rookies are retiring.

Always sad to see someones dreams go unfulfilled.

At least in Korea, not the foreign scene though
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ImmortalGhost
Profile Joined April 2019
United States57 Posts
August 27 2020 08:35 GMT
#4
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 27 2020 08:39 GMT
#5
Do not worry, my friends, for the prophet Apollo foresaw this and uttered those words
"The korean scene is healthy as fuck"
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
August 27 2020 08:51 GMT
#6
On August 27 2020 17:39 Durnuu wrote:
Do not worry, my friends, for the prophet Apollo foresaw this and uttered those words
"The korean scene is healthy as fuck"

I mean the kr scene got hit by the matchfix scandal harder than by region lock i'd say.
Parser
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy88 Posts
August 27 2020 09:38 GMT
#7
On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote:
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.


I do not think we should still blame Blizzard for this. Korean interest in SC2 was declining well before the match-fixing scandal (the main reason is the audience looking towards team games) while the interest in the rest of the world was still stable, if not increasing. From the economic point of view Blizzard choice has been the right one: invest where you can obtain revenues.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
August 27 2020 10:57 GMT
#8
On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote:
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.

Let's not act like this is because of Blizzard. Seriously, they may have disrupted the scene a bit with their global efforts, but I don't think that's the reason Korean players are retiring. If anything, Blizzard's long-term financial support is the only reason it's made it out a decade.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
August 27 2020 11:13 GMT
#9
On August 27 2020 17:39 Durnuu wrote:
Do not worry, my friends, for the prophet Apollo foresaw this and uttered those words
"The korean scene is healthy as fuck"

Whut? Is there a source to that or is that some meme?

On August 27 2020 18:38 Parser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote:
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.


I do not think we should still blame Blizzard for this. Korean interest in SC2 was declining well before the match-fixing scandal (the main reason is the audience looking towards team games) while the interest in the rest of the world was still stable, if not increasing. From the economic point of view Blizzard choice has been the right one: invest where you can obtain revenues.

Considering the biggest hyped matches are foreigners vs Koreans, if you remove Koreans from the equation you lose the audience. Also it won't look good if the death of the SC2 proscene will be based on the Blizzard's decision(although it's not 100 % their fault). Not that it matter to the new Blizzard anymore, after the last few years I lost all hopes(and not because the SC related decisions)
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26505 Posts
August 27 2020 11:24 GMT
#10
On August 27 2020 17:51 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2020 17:39 Durnuu wrote:
Do not worry, my friends, for the prophet Apollo foresaw this and uttered those words
"The korean scene is healthy as fuck"

I mean the kr scene got hit by the matchfix scandal harder than by region lock i'd say.

Probably, seems a bigger factor to me. Brood War still being big in Korea is another huge factor.

That aside, wish Rookie luck in whatever he’s doing next. There are structural problems in Korean SC2 for sure, I don’t think Rookie struggling to break the barrier into Code S is particularly due to some of them though.
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freelifeffs
Profile Joined April 2018
97 Posts
August 27 2020 13:05 GMT
#11
it is blizzards fault. normally, when you release a new esports game, you shut down esports for the old installment. they shouldve just ended support and forbidden prize money tournaments for broodwar at the time they released sc2. maybe 1 year after sc2 was released to allow for a smooth transition.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-27 13:10:53
August 27 2020 13:08 GMT
#12
On August 27 2020 22:05 freelifeffs wrote:
it is blizzards fault. normally, when you release a new esports game, you shut down esports for the old installment. they shouldve just ended support and forbidden prize money tournaments for broodwar at the time they released sc2. maybe 1 year after sc2 was released to allow for a smooth transition.

It wasn't in the first year but ultimately this is practically what Blizzard did as they made KeSPA switch to SC2. Yeah spoiler alert, this was not well received in Korea and it didn't help SC2 in the long term.
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120720
Profile Blog Joined July 2020
95 Posts
August 27 2020 13:11 GMT
#13
Username checks out according to his number of code S appearances.
skdsk
Profile Joined February 2019
138 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-27 18:11:24
August 27 2020 18:09 GMT
#14
On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote:
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.

Blizzard was pumping money into kr scene since day 0 of sc2. How much money pumping does 1 nation needs compared to the rest of the globe? They even have there pretty much separate tournaments that pay just as well as global stuff.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
August 27 2020 19:26 GMT
#15
On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote:
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.

Who cares about Korea. Not like highest quality gameplay matters or anything.
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SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-27 20:54:06
August 27 2020 19:43 GMT
#16
I get a little annoyed when every time someone retires people jump to blame Blizzard or ESL. Yes the korean scene is definitely not where it use to be because of military service leaves but did anyone consider maybe Rookie just felt enough was enough after trying for such a long time with little to show. You guys have to remember that SC2 is a big time sink and maybe Rookie had other ambitions at this point with military service done.
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
August 27 2020 21:21 GMT
#17
On August 27 2020 22:05 freelifeffs wrote:
it is blizzards fault. normally, when you release a new esports game, you shut down esports for the old installment. they shouldve just ended support and forbidden prize money tournaments for broodwar at the time they released sc2. maybe 1 year after sc2 was released to allow for a smooth transition.

They tried that, but BW was too popular in Korea and the community refused to let it die. To this day BW is still more popular than SC2.
elluel
Profile Joined October 2019
62 Posts
August 28 2020 02:02 GMT
#18
Who?


User was temp banned for this post.
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
August 28 2020 04:54 GMT
#19
Sad to hear about Rookies retirement. Wish him the best for future endeavours.

Unfortunately I have heard SpunXtain has also retired. I remember seeing his proxy base proxy barracks strategy on Scrap Station it was very innovative.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
August 28 2020 05:27 GMT
#20
On August 28 2020 03:09 skdsk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2020 17:35 ImmortalGhost wrote:
It's pretty tragic to see that Blizzard's efforts to foster a healthy foreign scene has lead to the decline of the korean scene. Even TY and Stats admitted it.

Blizzard was pumping money into kr scene since day 0 of sc2. How much money pumping does 1 nation needs compared to the rest of the globe? They even have there pretty much separate tournaments that pay just as well as global stuff.

That's one way to spin "they're banned from competing in many tournaments" I guess.
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