EPTCode S Season 3 qualifiers conclude (2020) - Page 2
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Neptuneajax
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
With the following players - who are partly well known veterans and partly (more or less) newcomers who took maps of established Code S players - one could form some kind of amateur league: - Rookie (kicked Curious and Percival out and won a map vs Dark) - Curious (currently not impressive, but we know his potential) - Natural (won a map vs Special and kicked Curious, TOP/kiwian and Creator out of the LB) - DRGling (won a map vs Innovation) - Super (is still legit - won maps vs Trap and Special) - ForGG (it's ForGG! And he won a map vs Dream) - Coca (beat Patience, won a map vs Zest) - Percival (kicked Bomber out, shows potential in online tournaments) - Prince (beat Spear, shows potential in online tournaments, had impressive showing in GSL S2) honorable mentions (didn't perform at the qualifier, but I'm convinced that they have the potential to do better if given more opportunities): - Supernova - Chance - Golden - kiwian/TOP So, if we include the "honorable" mentions" we could create a bracket with 13 players which would probably turn out quite entertaining and probably still well above NA competition skillwise. Also it would be an exciting mix of old- and newschool styles, of veteran players trying to revive their glory and newcomers trying to prove themselves as worthy competitors. Top 4 of such a bracket could be seeded into Code S of next season. If we take away the Ro16 seed for the semifinalists of Code S we could have a full Ro32 with 8 groups again. The obvious counter argument would be, we just could as well let qualify more players via qualifiers to achieve the same. But this would enhance qualification via bracket luck because some qualifier brackets would be too thinned out (we had this problem before) and also the idea of an amateur league is not only to provide a way to qualify for Code S but also to give those amateurs some exposure and livestage experience. Also the amateur league could bridge the gap between the seasons and provide us with more pro content over the year since stuff hasn't to be finished before Blizzcon anymore. | ||
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AssyrianKing
Australia2116 Posts
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2217 Posts
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
On August 20 2020 16:19 AssyrianKing wrote: Are these new players getting proper coaching ? I want to see them do well I highly doubt that. I don't know how connected they are with other pro players. Since some of them are on teams together with some other notable players, there could be some proper training via custom maps. But I doubt that this is organized by some team coach but rather depends on the individual initiative of the players. But to through out some interesting facts: Bomber, Prince, Rookie and DRGling are all on Team GP Chance, Percival and Spear are on Team NV, which also had Bunny in it's roster. If Bunny trains with the rookies, this could turn out as a terran talent factory, since Spear managed to qualify. Since most of the best performing amateurs are coming from those teams one could argue that they benefit from being on those teams. | ||
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eksero2k
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On August 20 2020 17:16 fronkschnonk wrote: I highly doubt that. I don't know how connected they are with other pro players. Since some of them are on teams together with some other notable players, there could be some proper training via custom maps. But I doubt that this is organized by some team coach but rather depends on the individual initiative of the players. But to through out some interesting facts: Bomber, Prince, Rookie and DRGling are all on Team GP Chance, Percival and Spear are on Team NV, which also had Bunny in it's roster. If Bunny trains with the rookies, this could turn out as a terran talent factory, since Spear managed to qualify. Since most of the best performing amateurs are coming from those teams one could argue that they benefit from being on those teams. Spear isn't exactly a rookie, considering he was in code A 8 years ago... | ||
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JustPassingBy
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
On August 20 2020 17:28 eksero2k wrote: Spear isn't exactly a rookie, considering he was in code A 8 years ago... You're right. I didn't mean to refer to Spear as a rookie here but as an amateur - I communicated this a bit unclear. | ||
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xongnox
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On August 20 2020 19:00 xongnox wrote: Anyone knows where to find the VODs, if any ? No luck so far. It wasn't broadcasted. I heard there were plans to cast the games from replays, but I forgot who and when. | ||
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
On August 20 2020 19:00 xongnox wrote: Anyone knows where to find the VODs, if any ? No luck so far. As usual the qualifiers weren't streamed. But CreightonOlsen will cast the qualifying matches (bracket finals of each group) from replay this evening (6pm CEST). I don't know if their will be VODs afterwards. Here is the thread about it: https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/562375-gsl-s3-qualifiers-casting-return-of-the-king | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On August 20 2020 10:41 Waxangel wrote: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/523642-byun-and-coca-in-esv-weekly-a-summary A much more thorough summary by me (even has the replays of the matches!), if I may toot my own horn  IMO it's even LESS sinister (by which I mean NOT AT ALL sinister) than how you framed it, or how it's erroneously remembered by the SC2 community hivemind. Let's say it was a very very stupid thing two kids did in plainsight. no malicious intent at all, just plain stupidity. | ||
Mizenhauer
United States1919 Posts
On August 20 2020 10:41 Waxangel wrote: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/523642-byun-and-coca-in-esv-weekly-a-summary A much more thorough summary by me (even has the replays of the matches!), if I may toot my own horn IMO it's even LESS sinister (by which I mean NOT AT ALL sinister) than how you framed it, or how it's erroneously remembered by the SC2 community hivemind. I don't think it's sinister at all. I've conceded to people plenty of time in Magic to allow them to advance in events, or intentionally drawn so both of us could do better in an event. More than anything, it's proof that the two guys just aren't too smart and probably should have sent those messages over Kakao Talk instead of in game chat. | ||
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Judgement
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2217 Posts
On August 20 2020 19:36 Mizenhauer wrote: I don't think it's sinister at all. I've conceded to people plenty of time in Magic to allow them to advance in events, or intentionally drawn so both of us could do better in an event. More than anything, it's proof that the two guys just aren't too smart and probably should have sent those messages over Kakao Talk instead of in game chat. Not sure why you would do the first? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18255 Posts
If you're either already qualified, or knocked out already, and like the guy? So there is nothing on the line for you, and you don't give a shit whether you win or lose, why not just intentionally lose to help your friend out? E: and yes, I know the answer is "for the integrity of the competition". But the integrity of the competition is an esoteric something that is hard to make players care about when their friend needs the win and they don't. | ||
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aringadingding
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xongnox
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On August 20 2020 19:04 JustPassingBy wrote: It wasn't broadcasted. I heard there were plans to cast the games from replays, but I forgot who and when. On August 20 2020 19:10 fronkschnonk wrote: As usual the qualifiers weren't streamed. But CreightonOlsen will cast the qualifying matches (bracket finals of each group) from replay this evening (6pm CEST). I don't know if their will be VODs afterwards. Here is the thread about it: https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/562375-gsl-s3-qualifiers-casting-return-of-the-king Thxx guys, i just read too fast the announce and thought this was casted live, my bad >< Anyway pretty hyped to see ByuN plays ! | ||
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