• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:51
CET 19:51
KST 03:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book15Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0222LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)35Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker10PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)14
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Terran Scanner Sweep Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) RSL Revival: Season 4 Korea Qualifier (Feb 14)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? Which units you wish saw more use in the game? ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 StarCraft player reflex TE scores [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2461 users

Code S RO8 bracket set as Stats & Rogue advance from RO16…

Forum Index > SC2 General
58 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 26 2020 21:59 GMT
#21
On July 26 2020 22:57 Argonauta wrote:
So much Rogue hate around here lol.

Rogue is the best korean zerg player, rogue deserves his champsionships. Deal with it .

Rogue plays macro games and sometimes cheeses like everyone else.

Rogue uses swarmhosts, why he sohouldnt? Why other zergs refuse to use them? Deal with that too.

Rogue likes to win with strategies that personally I don't feel should have a place in SC2. It's really that simple. He'll win tournaments without being mechanically or tactically impressive compared to his opponents, even on some occasions being suprised himself because he (in his own words) didn't practice particularly hard.

I don't blame him for using those strategies, but that doesn't mean I enjoy watching it. He's almost the highest earning player in SC2, but he's probably not making any credible top 10 greatest player list at the same time.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
elluel
Profile Joined October 2019
62 Posts
July 26 2020 22:14 GMT
#22
Zest still trying to abuse Adepts every game... when will protosses learn lol
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3833 Posts
July 26 2020 22:35 GMT
#23
Was gonna say something about guaranteed no pvp or zvz final, but in gsl proper (discounting gsl vs the world / super tournament etc) there hasn't been one since Roro vs Symbol, damn.

I think stats is a bore, parting or dream winning seems within the realm of possibility which is pretty cool
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
ZAWGURN
Profile Joined July 2018
96 Posts
July 27 2020 02:23 GMT
#24
I think Innovation is a clear favorite to win it all right now, he's looking incredibly strong but my heart really wants DRG to win.

TY isn't in the same form as he was in GSL S1, and parting's PvT is really good and he's in really good form doing so well vs Innovation, I think parting could possibly steal a win from him.

Dream looks really good right now, but rogue is rogue and when he's motivated he is the best in the world, so I think it could go either way.

Stats is another player that looks like he is in amazing shape right now, and he can also reach really high heights. However, trap has been much more consistent. Trap has only beat stats once recently too. It could go either way but Stats just looks a bit better right now. I think it will be close.

CJ herO #1 fan.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
July 27 2020 02:30 GMT
#25
On July 27 2020 06:59 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2020 22:57 Argonauta wrote:
So much Rogue hate around here lol.

Rogue is the best korean zerg player, rogue deserves his champsionships. Deal with it .

Rogue plays macro games and sometimes cheeses like everyone else.

Rogue uses swarmhosts, why he sohouldnt? Why other zergs refuse to use them? Deal with that too.

Rogue likes to win with strategies that personally I don't feel should have a place in SC2. It's really that simple. He'll win tournaments without being mechanically or tactically impressive compared to his opponents, even on some occasions being suprised himself because he (in his own words) didn't practice particularly hard.

I don't blame him for using those strategies, but that doesn't mean I enjoy watching it. He's almost the highest earning player in SC2, but he's probably not making any credible top 10 greatest player list at the same time.


This is such an awful take lmao.

First, who the hell disputes tournament wins because it their play wasn’t as impressive? Like honestly. He beat them. That is what determines a players caliber.

Second, he is fucking impressive. He can play just about any style and win with it. He wins out of nowhere which is extremely fun to watch and impressive when he shuts assholes like you up.

Third, if you don’t blame him then stop blaming him.

And lastly, those top ten lists you say wouldn’t be credible if they included him are way more credible than Fango’s top ten list hahaha.
661
Profile Joined May 2018
71 Posts
July 27 2020 07:26 GMT
#26
Rogue is the fucking zerg professor. Artosis clearly hates him, but who gives a fuck.

Rogue >>> all other korean zergs
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-27 07:56:37
July 27 2020 07:55 GMT
#27
On July 27 2020 16:26 661 wrote:
Rogue is the fucking zerg professor. Artosis clearly hates him, but who gives a fuck.

Rogue >>> all other korean zergs


Wdym I remember Artosis said he loves Rogue on multiple occasions.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Kuchikikun
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy560 Posts
July 27 2020 08:33 GMT
#28
On July 27 2020 07:14 elluel wrote:
Zest still trying to abuse Adepts every game... when will protosses learn lol


Ok tell me 5 good alternatives to the glaive build or variations of it please.

Don't you think that there's a good reason for the massive use of the adept build in PvZ?
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
July 27 2020 08:36 GMT
#29
On July 27 2020 16:26 661 wrote:
Rogue is the fucking zerg professor. Artosis clearly hates him, but who gives a fuck.

Rogue >>> all other korean zergs


I don't think Artosis hated him since he also praised Rogue for his brilliant plays too. The term "abusive" should not be interpreted as negative things.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4961 Posts
July 27 2020 08:36 GMT
#30
On July 27 2020 17:33 Kuchikikun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2020 07:14 elluel wrote:
Zest still trying to abuse Adepts every game... when will protosses learn lol


Ok tell me 5 good alternatives to the glaive build or variations of it please.

Don't you think that there's a good reason for the massive use of the adept build in PvZ?



Rogue Zest still using stupid abusive zerg protoss strats and timings in a ridiculous amount of games. I miss macro Rogue Zest.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Kuchikikun
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy560 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-27 08:49:39
July 27 2020 08:48 GMT
#31
On July 27 2020 17:36 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2020 17:33 Kuchikikun wrote:
On July 27 2020 07:14 elluel wrote:
Zest still trying to abuse Adepts every game... when will protosses learn lol


Ok tell me 5 good alternatives to the glaive build or variations of it please.

Don't you think that there's a good reason for the massive use of the adept build in PvZ?



Rogue Zest still using stupid abusive zerg protoss strats and timings in a ridiculous amount of games. I miss macro Rogue Zest.


As if going for a macro game as protoss versus zerg is a good idea.

I'm going to ask you the same question:are there good alterntives?Maybe you'll get why 90% of PvZ are variations of glaives adept builds.
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
July 27 2020 08:55 GMT
#32
On July 27 2020 17:48 Kuchikikun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2020 17:36 Argonauta wrote:
On July 27 2020 17:33 Kuchikikun wrote:
On July 27 2020 07:14 elluel wrote:
Zest still trying to abuse Adepts every game... when will protosses learn lol


Ok tell me 5 good alternatives to the glaive build or variations of it please.

Don't you think that there's a good reason for the massive use of the adept build in PvZ?



Rogue Zest still using stupid abusive zerg protoss strats and timings in a ridiculous amount of games. I miss macro Rogue Zest.


As if going for a macro game as protoss versus zerg is a good idea.

I'm going to ask you the same question:are there good alterntives?Maybe you'll get why 90% of PvZ are variations of glaives adept builds.


Stargate builds have been making a pretty big comeback of late whether that's oracles or double Stargate phoenix. Also there's the blink stalker Colossus build that both Trap and PartinG have been using recently.
Kuchikikun
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy560 Posts
July 27 2020 09:02 GMT
#33
On July 27 2020 17:55 Z3nith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2020 17:48 Kuchikikun wrote:
On July 27 2020 17:36 Argonauta wrote:
On July 27 2020 17:33 Kuchikikun wrote:
On July 27 2020 07:14 elluel wrote:
Zest still trying to abuse Adepts every game... when will protosses learn lol


Ok tell me 5 good alternatives to the glaive build or variations of it please.

Don't you think that there's a good reason for the massive use of the adept build in PvZ?



Rogue Zest still using stupid abusive zerg protoss strats and timings in a ridiculous amount of games. I miss macro Rogue Zest.


As if going for a macro game as protoss versus zerg is a good idea.

I'm going to ask you the same question:are there good alterntives?Maybe you'll get why 90% of PvZ are variations of glaives adept builds.


Stargate builds have been making a pretty big comeback of late whether that's oracles or double Stargate phoenix. Also there's the blink stalker Colossus build that both Trap and PartinG have been using recently.


Ok,great.
Double stargate is only good if not scouted and it's still an "abusive protoss strat" and you're right about blink colossus but most of the times it loses against ravager + banes.

I watch PartinG stream a lot and if he does that build is for a timing not for a long macro game and he just uses "abusive protoss strats and timings" in at least 80% of his games.

I just watched some PvZs on sOs stream and he's going adept with glaives every game.If even sOs uses the same build you know that there's a problem with variety.
661
Profile Joined May 2018
71 Posts
July 27 2020 09:08 GMT
#34
On July 27 2020 18:02 Kuchikikun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2020 17:55 Z3nith wrote:
On July 27 2020 17:48 Kuchikikun wrote:
On July 27 2020 17:36 Argonauta wrote:
On July 27 2020 17:33 Kuchikikun wrote:
On July 27 2020 07:14 elluel wrote:
Zest still trying to abuse Adepts every game... when will protosses learn lol


Ok tell me 5 good alternatives to the glaive build or variations of it please.

Don't you think that there's a good reason for the massive use of the adept build in PvZ?



Rogue Zest still using stupid abusive zerg protoss strats and timings in a ridiculous amount of games. I miss macro Rogue Zest.


As if going for a macro game as protoss versus zerg is a good idea.

I'm going to ask you the same question:are there good alterntives?Maybe you'll get why 90% of PvZ are variations of glaives adept builds.


Stargate builds have been making a pretty big comeback of late whether that's oracles or double Stargate phoenix. Also there's the blink stalker Colossus build that both Trap and PartinG have been using recently.


Ok,great.
Double stargate is only good if not scouted and it's still an "abusive protoss strat" and you're right about blink colossus but most of the times it loses against ravager + banes.

I watch PartinG stream a lot and if he does that build is for a timing not for a long macro game and he just uses "abusive protoss strats and timings" in at least 80% of his games.

I just watched some PvZs on sOs stream and he's going adept with glaives every game.If even sOs uses the same build you know that there's a problem with variety.


lol, vouch
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
July 27 2020 09:13 GMT
#35
On July 27 2020 18:02 Kuchikikun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2020 17:55 Z3nith wrote:
On July 27 2020 17:48 Kuchikikun wrote:
On July 27 2020 17:36 Argonauta wrote:
On July 27 2020 17:33 Kuchikikun wrote:
On July 27 2020 07:14 elluel wrote:
Zest still trying to abuse Adepts every game... when will protosses learn lol


Ok tell me 5 good alternatives to the glaive build or variations of it please.

Don't you think that there's a good reason for the massive use of the adept build in PvZ?



Rogue Zest still using stupid abusive zerg protoss strats and timings in a ridiculous amount of games. I miss macro Rogue Zest.


As if going for a macro game as protoss versus zerg is a good idea.

I'm going to ask you the same question:are there good alterntives?Maybe you'll get why 90% of PvZ are variations of glaives adept builds.


Stargate builds have been making a pretty big comeback of late whether that's oracles or double Stargate phoenix. Also there's the blink stalker Colossus build that both Trap and PartinG have been using recently.


Ok,great.
Double stargate is only good if not scouted and it's still an "abusive protoss strat" and you're right about blink colossus but most of the times it loses against ravager + banes.

I watch PartinG stream a lot and if he does that build is for a timing not for a long macro game and he just uses "abusive protoss strats and timings" in at least 80% of his games.

I just watched some PvZs on sOs stream and he's going adept with glaives every game.If even sOs uses the same build you know that there's a problem with variety.


There isn't a great amount of variety in PvZ I grant you but it's better than it was say two months ago. I'm the past few weeks I've actually seen a move away from using only adept builds from the likes of Trap and Stats. There's even been a resurgence in the use of dt into archon drop particularly from Zest.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16039 Posts
July 27 2020 09:29 GMT
#36
On July 27 2020 11:30 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2020 06:59 Fango wrote:
On July 26 2020 22:57 Argonauta wrote:
So much Rogue hate around here lol.

Rogue is the best korean zerg player, rogue deserves his champsionships. Deal with it .

Rogue plays macro games and sometimes cheeses like everyone else.

Rogue uses swarmhosts, why he sohouldnt? Why other zergs refuse to use them? Deal with that too.

Rogue likes to win with strategies that personally I don't feel should have a place in SC2. It's really that simple. He'll win tournaments without being mechanically or tactically impressive compared to his opponents, even on some occasions being suprised himself because he (in his own words) didn't practice particularly hard.

I don't blame him for using those strategies, but that doesn't mean I enjoy watching it. He's almost the highest earning player in SC2, but he's probably not making any credible top 10 greatest player list at the same time.


This is such an awful take lmao.

First, who the hell disputes tournament wins because it their play wasn’t as impressive? Like honestly. He beat them. That is what determines a players caliber.

Second, he is fucking impressive. He can play just about any style and win with it. He wins out of nowhere which is extremely fun to watch and impressive when he shuts assholes like you up.

Third, if you don’t blame him then stop blaming him.

And lastly, those top ten lists you say wouldn’t be credible if they included him are way more credible than Fango’s top ten list hahaha.

Agreed, not sure why being creative and abusing the race to the fullest should be consideted less "impressive" than playing standard macro games every game. Considering sc2 is a real time STRATEGY game I actually think the ability to mix it up this much and be this succesful with it is hella impressive.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
kingism
Profile Joined July 2020
25 Posts
July 27 2020 09:47 GMT
#37
Someone tell me how you can beat a top, top Zerg? Zerg economy is just 10x better than terran and protoss. It's becoming quite a stupid game. If zerg econ is so good, their units have to be weaker to compensate, but no, their units are AS gd, if not better, as terran and protoss. What ends up happening is 200 maxed out zerg battles against 140 supply protoss and terran, AND after the battle, zerg remaxes instantly with their superior economy and unit production

User was temp banned for this post.
kingism
Profile Joined July 2020
25 Posts
July 27 2020 09:49 GMT
#38
If protoss loses an immortal, its game over. Zerg can throw away their units 10 times and lose 50 drones and still win at the end. Talk about game design and strength of race.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 27 2020 09:49 GMT
#39
So TY wishes for anything but protoss and he ends up in a bracket with the three strongest protoss there are. I guess if he somehow makes it to the finals again we will know who should wear the vacant TvP crown. But it seems highly unlikely. I think Stats will make it this time, he looks in very good shape. It would be great to see him take another Code S in his (pen?)ultimate appearance.

On the other side of the bracket, it would be a major upset if the semifinals isn't between Rogue and Innovation. I still have a feeling Rogue takes it here, and I honestly think he's taking the whole tournament too. It also has been ages since our last zerg champion (), so long that Afreeca branded this whole season as the revenge of the bugs (apparently nobody even cares to mention protoss anymore).
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
661
Profile Joined May 2018
71 Posts
July 27 2020 09:56 GMT
#40
On July 27 2020 18:47 kingism wrote:
Someone tell me how you can beat a top, top Zerg? Zerg economy is just 10x better than terran and protoss. It's becoming quite a stupid game. If zerg econ is so good, their units have to be weaker to compensate, but no, their units are AS gd, if not better, as terran and protoss. What ends up happening is 200 maxed out zerg battles against 140 supply protoss and terran, AND after the battle, zerg remaxes instantly with their superior economy and unit production


On July 27 2020 18:49 kingism wrote:
If protoss loses an immortal, its game over. Zerg can throw away their units 10 times and lose 50 drones and still win at the end. Talk about game design and strength of race.


He was banned like a week ago because he was copy pasting the exact same post like this, how is he allowed to post again?
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Ladder Legends
18:00
Open Showdown #2
SteadfastSC130
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 130
Livibee 109
ForJumy 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 23501
Shuttle 857
firebathero 163
Bonyth 102
ggaemo 74
sSak 35
Rock 34
IntoTheRainbow 21
soO 18
NaDa 12
[ Show more ]
zelot 10
Shine 5
Dota 2
Gorgc6595
singsing3047
febbydoto14
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss2963
fl0m2502
byalli377
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King39
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor616
Liquid`Hasu373
MindelVK7
Other Games
gofns30332
tarik_tv11980
FrodaN4967
Grubby2697
Liquid`RaSZi1936
Mlord908
B2W.Neo465
mouzStarbuck149
KnowMe141
Rex45
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL38719
Other Games
EGCTV2229
gamesdonequick804
StarCraft 2
angryscii 26
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 25 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH190
• StrangeGG 62
• Shameless 53
• HeavenSC 31
• LUISG 23
• Reevou 5
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 29
• blackmanpl 15
• 80smullet 13
• Michael_bg 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis6652
• TFBlade1403
• Shiphtur541
Other Games
• imaqtpie1295
• tFFMrPink 19
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 9m
Replay Cast
14h 9m
Wardi Open
17h 9m
Monday Night Weeklies
22h 9m
OSC
1d 5h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 17h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Epic.LAN
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-14
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.