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DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
April 17 2020 11:52 GMT
#21
On April 17 2020 03:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2020 00:22 DinosaurJones wrote:
Rogue looked really pissed after his matches. Can't blame him honestly. Meanwhile, TOP looked appropriately bemused.


Those matches reminded me why I gave up playing Random. I can't fucking stand ZvZ and those two games are what I'm gonna point to everyone now and say "SEE THIS IS WHY!"

I can't stand PvP either, but one ladder session in particular as a Random player yielded me NINE fucking ZvZs in a row. NINE! I won like 2 of them.

Gave up playing Random after that.

I think I had one season, where my ZvZ was like 20% winrate and the other matchups 60-80%.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16118 Posts
April 17 2020 14:12 GMT
#22
On April 17 2020 20:52 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2020 03:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 17 2020 00:22 DinosaurJones wrote:
Rogue looked really pissed after his matches. Can't blame him honestly. Meanwhile, TOP looked appropriately bemused.


Those matches reminded me why I gave up playing Random. I can't fucking stand ZvZ and those two games are what I'm gonna point to everyone now and say "SEE THIS IS WHY!"

I can't stand PvP either, but one ladder session in particular as a Random player yielded me NINE fucking ZvZs in a row. NINE! I won like 2 of them.

Gave up playing Random after that.

I think I had one season, where my ZvZ was like 20% winrate and the other matchups 60-80%.


Maybe it's not as bad in EU but when I was playing Random the NA ladder was like 45-50% Zerg or something ridiculous. The population disparity was ridiculous.

That's a LOT of ZvZ's being played. I don't know how Zergs do it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
ScrappyRabbit
Profile Joined March 2016
200 Posts
April 17 2020 15:23 GMT
#23
That Scarlett series did look pretty "unfair," but statistically ZvZ is Rogue's best matchup: http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/

It's the same case with Serral, which makes sense -- you're not gonna dominate the foreign scene like he does without being great vs. Zergs. It's Dark and Solar's 2nd-best matchup and soO's best matchup. It's the worst matchup for Reynor (Which will happen when you match up with Serral so often), Ragnarok, and Elazer, and that's all the Zergs in the top 20 on Aligulac.
Phrawz
Profile Joined January 2019
United States11 Posts
April 17 2020 19:07 GMT
#24
These look like some good games, are replays available for these games? If so where can I find them? Thanks in advanced!
You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else. -Albert Einstein
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16118 Posts
April 17 2020 20:19 GMT
#25
On April 18 2020 04:07 Phrawz wrote:
These look like some good games, are replays available for these games? If so where can I find them? Thanks in advanced!


Follow https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK5eBtuoj_HkdXKHNmBLAXg On youtube for all things GSL and ASL related including streams and vods.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
April 17 2020 23:02 GMT
#26
truth is: Rouge cuts corners and plays greedy.
that's why he can beat dark and serral, but also get upset.

Also, protoss is acutally so weak right now.
do a stupid allin or timing or ur dead. little sad.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Phrawz
Profile Joined January 2019
United States11 Posts
April 18 2020 02:29 GMT
#27
On April 18 2020 05:19 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2020 04:07 Phrawz wrote:
These look like some good games, are replays available for these games? If so where can I find them? Thanks in advanced!


Follow https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK5eBtuoj_HkdXKHNmBLAXg On youtube for all things GSL and ASL related including streams and vods.


Thank you!!
You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else. -Albert Einstein
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 18 2020 17:01 GMT
#28
On April 18 2020 08:02 KalWarkov wrote:
truth is: Rouge cuts corners and plays greedy.
that's why he can beat dark and serral, but also get upset.

Also, protoss is acutally so weak right now.
do a stupid allin or timing or ur dead. little sad.


Rogue has never beaten Serral.
david0925
Profile Joined September 2010
212 Posts
April 18 2020 21:30 GMT
#29
Rogue does not respect early aggression/cheese and plays as greedy as possible.
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