EPTWacky early WoL games
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catplanetcatplanet
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
Plus, I'd love to see current pros play some WoL (or even LoTV) matches on those 2010 maps - back then we couldn't macro like we could now, so it was basically 2 rax, early pool, or 4 gates all day lol. Of course, need to have variety, but I wouldn't mind seeing some of those smaller maps as part of tournament map pool. Let's make early cheese more viable again haha | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
I found the game again once a few years ago, but not sure any more details. I think it was a small map. | ||
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catplanetcatplanet
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On April 16 2020 10:12 Bagration wrote: In a wacky way, 2010 was the best era - it was the time of maximum creativity, maximum aggression, and maximum cheddar. BitbyBit was great and hilarious in particular Plus, I'd love to see current pros play some WoL (or even LoTV) matches on those 2010 maps - back then we couldn't macro like we could now, so it was basically 2 rax, early pool, or 4 gates all day lol. Of course, need to have variety, but I wouldn't mind seeing some of those smaller maps as part of tournament map pool. Let's make early cheese more viable again haha Ooh yeah, bitbybit, one of the legends of 2010 for sure. Gonna have to watch a few of those. I still feel like cheese is hilarious strictly from a viewer perspective, I watched the scarlett vs rogue games today and had a pretty great time as a neutral. It'd be cool to see how players approach those old maps with actual mechanics at their disposal. Surely steppes of war has a place in the map pool in 2020. Found another one, proxy thor rush vs dt rush which plays out in a rather unfortunate manner: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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ThunderJunk
United States741 Posts
On April 16 2020 10:12 Bagration wrote: In a wacky way, 2010 was the best era - it was the time of maximum creativity, maximum aggression, and maximum cheddar. BitbyBit was great and hilarious in particular Plus, I'd love to see current pros play some WoL (or even LoTV) matches on those 2010 maps - back then we couldn't macro like we could now, so it was basically 2 rax, early pool, or 4 gates all day lol. Of course, need to have variety, but I wouldn't mind seeing some of those smaller maps as part of tournament map pool. Let's make early cheese more viable again haha OH WOULD YOU!!! Noted. Keep your eyes open for the next American ThunderLeague event.  | ||
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ssg
United States1777 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On April 16 2020 12:55 ThunderJunk wrote: OH WOULD YOU!!! Noted. Keep your eyes open for the next American ThunderLeague event. That's awesome - Maru vs. Serral on Steppes of War | ||
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DinosaurJones
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WaesumNinja
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On April 16 2020 10:12 Bagration wrote: In a wacky way, 2010 was the best era - it was the time of maximum creativity, maximum aggression, and maximum cheddar. The beta was something else as well. A young game full of possibilities and surprises around every corner. That was a great time to play. On April 16 2020 14:22 ssg wrote: If a gold league player today went back to gsl 1 he would likely win. He'd come very far at least. It'd be fun to compare these games with gold league replays from today side by side and see if you could figure out which one was the progame from the plays alone. | ||
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Snakestyle11
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On April 16 2020 15:40 WaesumNinja wrote: The beta was something else as well. A young game full of possibilities and surprises around every corner. That was a great time to play. He'd come very far at least. It'd be fun to compare these games with gold league replays from today side by side and see if you could figure out which one was the progame from the plays alone. I just started coming back to play more after a longer break and am in Gold League atm. My games feel so scrappy, I wouldn t feel comfortable at all.. When watch replays its painfully obvious, that sometimes I was amssivly ahead but didn t jump on, it becausee I just didn t realise in game, it hurts. Also my average 60APM feel way to slow to do anything.. I didn t follow the SC2 proscene back then, so don t realy know, how bad the games where, but I can t imagine someone doing nothing else but playing the game beeing as bad as me with my 6-8 hours per week  | ||
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I wasbanned fromthis
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
On April 16 2020 14:22 ssg wrote: If a gold league player today went back to gsl 1 he would likely win. lol no, the gold leagers i occassionally face have issues with expanding and heavy supply blocks. Not sure what region you play in, but I doubt even Korean gold league are significantly better Edit> while it's funny to poke at the builds and some stupidity, the mechanics are well above todays diamond. I know it as my Protoss is diamond and I'm nowhere near them  | ||
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Mallyx
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omop
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BisuDagger
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On April 16 2020 21:58 omop wrote: I would love to see a big 10 year anniversary tournament with games from every iteration or starcraft 2. Big and prestigious tournament to find out the true GOAT. I think for example it would fit good for online Homestorycup, because ping makes it a bit wacky anyway. I would back this only if we saw a bo7 between MVP and Serral with the map orders were based on the era they won in such as: 1. WoL 2. LoTV 3. WoL 4. LoTV 5. WoL 6. LoTV 7. HoTS | ||
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Mallyx
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On April 16 2020 21:58 omop wrote: I would love to see a big 10 year anniversary tournament with games from every iteration or starcraft 2. Big and prestigious tournament to find out the true GOAT. I think for example it would fit good for online Homestorycup, because ping makes it a bit wacky anyway. Every Vanilla ZvT gonna be a Proxy Rax. I don't think you can hold this with the patch and the control of a modern day Terran. So a very prestigious tournament might be a bit stupid, but some Showmatches would be cool. On April 16 2020 22:37 BisuDagger wrote: I would back this only if we saw a bo7 between MVP and Serral with the map orders were based on the era they won in such as: 1. WoL 2. LoTV 3. WoL 4. LoTV 5. WoL 6. LoTV 7. HoTS NesTea, MVP, MC, soO (would love to mention another name here :-( ), Innovation, Zest (?), Serral, Maru, Classic. Showmatches in all combinations. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
On April 16 2020 22:58 Mallyx wrote: Every Vanilla ZvT gonna be a Proxy Rax. I don't think you can hold this with the patch and the control of a modern day Terran. So a very prestigious tournament might be a bit stupid, but some Showmatches would be cool. Vanilla 2 rax is a serious all in though, so if the Zerg goes pool first you're done. It's not like LotV where it's just an aggressive opening. | ||
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Mallyx
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On April 16 2020 23:01 deacon.frost wrote: Vanilla 2 rax is a serious all in though, so if the Zerg goes pool first you're done. It's not like LotV where it's just an aggressive opening. You think so? I'm not sure, tbh. It seemed insanely broken back then even during a time when many people went for a pool first build if I remember that correctly. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
On April 16 2020 23:27 Mallyx wrote: You think so? I'm not sure, tbh. It seemed insanely broken back then even during a time when many people went for a pool first build if I remember that correctly. There's a reason why it wasn't played so much and it's not just because they were lacking the control, don't forget MarineKing It's not like there needs to be that much higher marine control for 2 raxing | ||
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