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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3390 Posts
April 15 2020 22:01 GMT
#1
Been poking around the early gsl open seasons for nostalgia's sake, found this pretty funny game from season 2 between the illustrious ParkJongHyuk and NEXChief. A mothership is rushed on scrap station and shenanigans ensue. Anyone got any gems from the era of not-so-great sc2?

2020 year of pet
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18233 Posts
April 16 2020 01:12 GMT
#2
In a wacky way, 2010 was the best era - it was the time of maximum creativity, maximum aggression, and maximum cheddar. BitbyBit was great and hilarious in particular

Plus, I'd love to see current pros play some WoL (or even LoTV) matches on those 2010 maps - back then we couldn't macro like we could now, so it was basically 2 rax, early pool, or 4 gates all day lol. Of course, need to have variety, but I wouldn't mind seeing some of those smaller maps as part of tournament map pool. Let's make early cheese more viable again haha
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12000 Posts
April 16 2020 03:30 GMT
#3
There was one legendary game where a zerg built an evolutionary chamber first instead of a spawning pool. What was most hilarious to me about it was that Tastosis was really trying to figure out what was the strategy and couldn't believe it was a mistake.

I found the game again once a few years ago, but not sure any more details. I think it was a small map.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3390 Posts
April 16 2020 03:44 GMT
#4
On April 16 2020 10:12 Bagration wrote:
In a wacky way, 2010 was the best era - it was the time of maximum creativity, maximum aggression, and maximum cheddar. BitbyBit was great and hilarious in particular

Plus, I'd love to see current pros play some WoL (or even LoTV) matches on those 2010 maps - back then we couldn't macro like we could now, so it was basically 2 rax, early pool, or 4 gates all day lol. Of course, need to have variety, but I wouldn't mind seeing some of those smaller maps as part of tournament map pool. Let's make early cheese more viable again haha

Ooh yeah, bitbybit, one of the legends of 2010 for sure. Gonna have to watch a few of those. I still feel like cheese is hilarious strictly from a viewer perspective, I watched the scarlett vs rogue games today and had a pretty great time as a neutral. It'd be cool to see how players approach those old maps with actual mechanics at their disposal. Surely steppes of war has a place in the map pool in 2020.

Found another one, proxy thor rush vs dt rush which plays out in a rather unfortunate manner:

+ Show Spoiler +
2020 year of pet
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States467 Posts
April 16 2020 03:55 GMT
#5
On April 16 2020 10:12 Bagration wrote:
In a wacky way, 2010 was the best era - it was the time of maximum creativity, maximum aggression, and maximum cheddar. BitbyBit was great and hilarious in particular

Plus, I'd love to see current pros play some WoL (or even LoTV) matches on those 2010 maps - back then we couldn't macro like we could now, so it was basically 2 rax, early pool, or 4 gates all day lol. Of course, need to have variety, but I wouldn't mind seeing some of those smaller maps as part of tournament map pool. Let's make early cheese more viable again haha


OH WOULD YOU!!! Noted.

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ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1713 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-16 05:22:30
April 16 2020 05:22 GMT
#6
If a gold league player today went back to gsl 1 he would likely win.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18233 Posts
April 16 2020 05:28 GMT
#7
On April 16 2020 12:55 ThunderJunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2020 10:12 Bagration wrote:
In a wacky way, 2010 was the best era - it was the time of maximum creativity, maximum aggression, and maximum cheddar. BitbyBit was great and hilarious in particular

Plus, I'd love to see current pros play some WoL (or even LoTV) matches on those 2010 maps - back then we couldn't macro like we could now, so it was basically 2 rax, early pool, or 4 gates all day lol. Of course, need to have variety, but I wouldn't mind seeing some of those smaller maps as part of tournament map pool. Let's make early cheese more viable again haha


OH WOULD YOU!!! Noted.

Keep your eyes open for the next American ThunderLeague event.


That's awesome - Maru vs. Serral on Steppes of War
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DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-16 06:34:13
April 16 2020 06:33 GMT
#8
I remember a long time ago, Doa held "YOMT," Ye Olde Map Tournament. I think it was when HoTS came out? It might have been WoL, but it was interesting seeing games on Steppes of War, Incineration Zone, and Desert Oasis (and other maps I can't remember) again.
WaesumNinja
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-16 06:42:57
April 16 2020 06:40 GMT
#9
On April 16 2020 10:12 Bagration wrote:
In a wacky way, 2010 was the best era - it was the time of maximum creativity, maximum aggression, and maximum cheddar.


The beta was something else as well. A young game full of possibilities and surprises around every corner. That was a great time to play.

On April 16 2020 14:22 ssg wrote:
If a gold league player today went back to gsl 1 he would likely win.

He'd come very far at least. It'd be fun to compare these games with gold league replays from today side by side and see if you could figure out which one was the progame from the plays alone.
Snakestyle11
Profile Joined December 2018
153 Posts
April 16 2020 07:01 GMT
#10
Dude and GSL was on almost every night for months at a time. It was sooo amazing. That terrible GOM player and 280p(or 360p?). Those were the days lol. It felt epic
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany1811 Posts
April 16 2020 07:16 GMT
#11
On April 16 2020 15:40 WaesumNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2020 10:12 Bagration wrote:
In a wacky way, 2010 was the best era - it was the time of maximum creativity, maximum aggression, and maximum cheddar.


The beta was something else as well. A young game full of possibilities and surprises around every corner. That was a great time to play.

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2020 14:22 ssg wrote:
If a gold league player today went back to gsl 1 he would likely win.

He'd come very far at least. It'd be fun to compare these games with gold league replays from today side by side and see if you could figure out which one was the progame from the plays alone.

I just started coming back to play more after a longer break and am in Gold League atm. My games feel so scrappy, I wouldn t feel comfortable at all..
When watch replays its painfully obvious, that sometimes I was amssivly ahead but didn t jump on, it becausee I just didn t realise in game, it hurts. Also my average 60APM feel way to slow to do anything..
I didn t follow the SC2 proscene back then, so don t realy know, how bad the games where, but I can t imagine someone doing nothing else but playing the game beeing as bad as me with my 6-8 hours per week
MaxPax | Reynor | Clem
I wasbanned fromthis
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
109 Posts
April 16 2020 07:47 GMT
#12






deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic10570 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-16 07:58:33
April 16 2020 07:57 GMT
#13
On April 16 2020 14:22 ssg wrote:
If a gold league player today went back to gsl 1 he would likely win.

lol no, the gold leagers i occassionally face have issues with expanding and heavy supply blocks. Not sure what region you play in, but I doubt even Korean gold league are significantly better

Edit> while it's funny to poke at the builds and some stupidity, the mechanics are well above todays diamond. I know it as my Protoss is diamond and I'm nowhere near them
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Mallyx
Profile Joined April 2020
12 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-16 12:28:52
April 16 2020 12:28 GMT
#14
You know what I'd like to see? Current pro gamers playing the very vanilla state of StarCraft II. Just to see what they'd be doing with this mess - especially the maps.
omop
Profile Joined April 2017
35 Posts
April 16 2020 12:58 GMT
#15
I would love to see a big 10 year anniversary tournament with games from every iteration or starcraft 2. Big and prestigious tournament to find out the true GOAT. I think for example it would fit good for online Homestorycup, because ping makes it a bit wacky anyway.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia17806 Posts
April 16 2020 13:37 GMT
#16
On April 16 2020 21:58 omop wrote:
I would love to see a big 10 year anniversary tournament with games from every iteration or starcraft 2. Big and prestigious tournament to find out the true GOAT. I think for example it would fit good for online Homestorycup, because ping makes it a bit wacky anyway.

I would back this only if we saw a bo7 between MVP and Serral with the map orders were based on the era they won in such as:
1. WoL
2. LoTV
3. WoL
4. LoTV
5. WoL
6. LoTV
7. HoTS
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Mallyx
Profile Joined April 2020
12 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-16 14:04:30
April 16 2020 13:58 GMT
#17
On April 16 2020 21:58 omop wrote:
I would love to see a big 10 year anniversary tournament with games from every iteration or starcraft 2. Big and prestigious tournament to find out the true GOAT. I think for example it would fit good for online Homestorycup, because ping makes it a bit wacky anyway.


Every Vanilla ZvT gonna be a Proxy Rax. I don't think you can hold this with the patch and the control of a modern day Terran. So a very prestigious tournament might be a bit stupid, but some Showmatches would be cool.

On April 16 2020 22:37 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2020 21:58 omop wrote:
I would love to see a big 10 year anniversary tournament with games from every iteration or starcraft 2. Big and prestigious tournament to find out the true GOAT. I think for example it would fit good for online Homestorycup, because ping makes it a bit wacky anyway.

I would back this only if we saw a bo7 between MVP and Serral with the map orders were based on the era they won in such as:
1. WoL
2. LoTV
3. WoL
4. LoTV
5. WoL
6. LoTV
7. HoTS


NesTea, MVP, MC, soO (would love to mention another name here :-( ), Innovation, Zest (?), Serral, Maru, Classic. Showmatches in all combinations.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic10570 Posts
April 16 2020 14:01 GMT
#18
On April 16 2020 22:58 Mallyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2020 21:58 omop wrote:
I would love to see a big 10 year anniversary tournament with games from every iteration or starcraft 2. Big and prestigious tournament to find out the true GOAT. I think for example it would fit good for online Homestorycup, because ping makes it a bit wacky anyway.


Every Vanilla ZvT gonna be a Proxy Rax. I don't think you can hold this with the patch and the control of a modern day Terran. So a very prestigious tournament might be a bit stupid, but some Showmatches would be cool.

Vanilla 2 rax is a serious all in though, so if the Zerg goes pool first you're done. It's not like LotV where it's just an aggressive opening.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Mallyx
Profile Joined April 2020
12 Posts
April 16 2020 14:27 GMT
#19
On April 16 2020 23:01 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2020 22:58 Mallyx wrote:
On April 16 2020 21:58 omop wrote:
I would love to see a big 10 year anniversary tournament with games from every iteration or starcraft 2. Big and prestigious tournament to find out the true GOAT. I think for example it would fit good for online Homestorycup, because ping makes it a bit wacky anyway.


Every Vanilla ZvT gonna be a Proxy Rax. I don't think you can hold this with the patch and the control of a modern day Terran. So a very prestigious tournament might be a bit stupid, but some Showmatches would be cool.

Vanilla 2 rax is a serious all in though, so if the Zerg goes pool first you're done. It's not like LotV where it's just an aggressive opening.


You think so? I'm not sure, tbh. It seemed insanely broken back then even during a time when many people went for a pool first build if I remember that correctly.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic10570 Posts
April 16 2020 14:30 GMT
#20
On April 16 2020 23:27 Mallyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2020 23:01 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 16 2020 22:58 Mallyx wrote:
On April 16 2020 21:58 omop wrote:
I would love to see a big 10 year anniversary tournament with games from every iteration or starcraft 2. Big and prestigious tournament to find out the true GOAT. I think for example it would fit good for online Homestorycup, because ping makes it a bit wacky anyway.


Every Vanilla ZvT gonna be a Proxy Rax. I don't think you can hold this with the patch and the control of a modern day Terran. So a very prestigious tournament might be a bit stupid, but some Showmatches would be cool.

Vanilla 2 rax is a serious all in though, so if the Zerg goes pool first you're done. It's not like LotV where it's just an aggressive opening.


You think so? I'm not sure, tbh. It seemed insanely broken back then even during a time when many people went for a pool first build if I remember that correctly.

There's a reason why it wasn't played so much and it's not just because they were lacking the control, don't forget MarineKing It's not like there needs to be that much higher marine control for 2 raxing
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
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