• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:16
CET 15:16
KST 23:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book11Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info7herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker6PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)9Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April8
StarCraft 2
General
Terran Scanner Sweep How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) WardiTV Mondays $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 512 Overclocked The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea BW General Discussion Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Diablo 2 thread ZeroSpace Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Sex and weight loss YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2982 users

Mkers: Payment Withhold Dispute - Page 11

Forum Index > SC2 General
241 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
Official response from Mkers:

https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27509623



The resolution:

https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/553531-mkers-payment-withhold-dispute?page=11#205



Mkers’ response to the resolution:

https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/553531-mkers-payment-withhold-dispute?page=11#216
Dracover
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia177 Posts
December 20 2019 00:46 GMT
#201
On December 20 2019 09:40 Wombat_NI wrote:

I’m not really calling for that at all.

Blizzard run the show, Blizzard have lawyers

If Nerchio is talking shit then, no action. Indeed if Nerchio is being irresponsible and wrong in this domain, and Mkers are completely blameless, ban him for impugning their reputation.

I’m questioning the idea that Blizzard don’t have the remit in this domain



I agree, Blizz will absolutely have options under some circumstances. However, Blizzards remit really only applies if there has been breaches to the law or to their policies. I'm just pointing out practically speaking it is unlikely that one party is completely blameless, either ethically or legally. In those circumstances, it would be unwise to take sides as you will effectively be sending the message that ethics>legals or vice versa.
Don't stop
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 20 2019 05:01 GMT
#202
More importantly Blizzard doesn't care about something like this. They won't do anything, as they haven't in the past when similar stuff has happened.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7066 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-20 09:34:08
December 20 2019 09:33 GMT
#203
On December 20 2019 09:23 Dracover wrote:

The correct response in the work place if you don't get the ok from your boss is to not do whatever it is you think needs to be done. E.g. you need to go to another worksite/state/country for your work. You boss has not given you the ok even though you think it's absolute necessary. You don't do whatever it is. It is not ok to decide on your own to just do it and expect the company to pay you after the fact.


This one seems a bit situational TBH
I mean, of course you are right for most cases.
But I understand this situation more like they made the contract like "hey nerchio, you are going to all WCS events next year and PR for us" and then month before the events is radio silence. So basically he IS doing what his boss wants. And if he is NOT going he is breaching the contract and makes himself vulnerable legally.

And MKers did not say ABC, they said you are right but where are the invoices. Which doesn't seem to be problem because at least flight and hotel invoices can easily be backtracked half a year later (if you don't erase you emails and stuff) Might only be a tax problem there, depending on tax law.


I would only want Blizz involvement after the two parties have this legally sorted out and not a second before. Because then they have grounds to A: either ban Nerchio for slandering or B: ban MKers for contract breaching from all WCS events
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria836 Posts
December 24 2019 23:58 GMT
#204
So no reply from Mkers after their investigation? Very disappointing.
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
December 25 2019 17:42 GMT
#205
I would like to inform you about the solution to the problem of missing salary from Mkers team. As a result of talks between lawyers, the money is in my account and I consider this matter so far to be resolved.
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
December 25 2019 18:29 GMT
#206
On December 26 2019 02:42 Nerchio wrote:
I would like to inform you about the solution to the problem of missing salary from Mkers team. As a result of talks between lawyers, the money is in my account and I consider this matter so far to be resolved.

Nice, very unfortunate, that you had so much trouble with that but at least you got your money.
MaxPax
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10273 Posts
December 25 2019 18:29 GMT
#207
That is great news
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-25 18:34:01
December 25 2019 18:33 GMT
#208
On December 26 2019 02:42 Nerchio wrote:
I would like to inform you about the solution to the problem of missing salary from Mkers team. As a result of talks between lawyers, the money is in my account and I consider this matter so far to be resolved.


Please edit the OP then so people know.

Or maybe mods can modnote it ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33551 Posts
December 25 2019 18:35 GMT
#209
Wow, lawyering up actually happened in SC2 :O
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
December 25 2019 19:07 GMT
#210
On December 26 2019 03:35 Waxangel wrote:
Wow, lawyering up actually happened in SC2 :O


The lawyer probably talked on wechat, we should have the full report in broken chino-english soon.

But serious wp Nerchio!
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
December 25 2019 20:37 GMT
#211
JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
December 25 2019 23:10 GMT
#212
It’s a Christmas Miracle!
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain883 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-25 23:29:17
December 25 2019 23:29 GMT
#213
I guess your lawyer has suddenly become very popular among e-sport players... well done!
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 26 2019 01:47 GMT
#214
A Christmas miracle!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
December 26 2019 03:12 GMT
#215
Even something so basic like "paying salary to your employee" had to take months + lawyering up is really a sad thing to see in the scene. At least, Nerchio is a veteran who has the experience to deal with this. Any other youngsters, they probably gave up already.
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
January 13 2020 19:10 GMT
#216
Looks like this isn't over after all, lol.
http://www.twitter.com/Paragleiber
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
January 13 2020 19:33 GMT
#217
On January 14 2020 04:10 Paragleiber wrote:
Looks like this isn't over after all, lol. https://twitter.com/mkersofficial/status/1216757280470904832


They still don't get it do they?
If they replied to players' emails and pay them on time this wouldn't have happened.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-13 19:54:09
January 13 2020 19:53 GMT
#218
On January 14 2020 04:33 osliang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2020 04:10 Paragleiber wrote:
Looks like this isn't over after all, lol. https://twitter.com/mkersofficial/status/1216757280470904832


They still don't get it do they?
If they replied to players' emails and pay them on time this wouldn't have happened.

Before we get out the pitchforks, note this in the Mkers twitlonger:

...who determined that Mr.Bloch’s initial demands did not correspond to the contract agreements signed by both parties.


If we take this at face value, it seems like Nerchio did in fact make mistake in his initial statement. If that is the case, Nerchio just saying "our lawyers talked and I got money" is indeed somewhat unfair, since Mkers was correct in disagreeing w/ his initial request.

Of course, that's a bit of a leap, nobody but the two of them currently knows what went down. And Mkers is really not phrasing things well on Twitter, and a team probably should make less of a fuss over disagreements with one player, and Nerchio aired many other grievances than just salary that are pretty grievous. But there does seem to have been a mutual misunderstanding at some point a while back, and isn't just a case of one-sided bullying
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
nigel
Profile Joined September 2010
63 Posts
January 13 2020 20:04 GMT
#219
LOL at that latest statement...

Even if what they say about the mismatched demands is true, Nerchio has no obligation to disclose that publicly (I'm not a lawyer, but that seems obvious). For them to say his failure to do that is a "distorted representation of facts" with a goal to "damage [their] company" seems like borderline libel.

The statement Nerchio made could not be more neutral and it seems likely from the language that his lawyer wrote or approved it. That contrasts greatly from the weirdly emotional and poorly-thought-out responses we've seen from Mkers.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
January 13 2020 20:47 GMT
#220
This organization is such a massive joke. The level of incompetence and stupidity of the people in this org are also astounding. So embarrassing. Stay away from them for god's sake.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LiuLi Cup
11:00
Group A
Reynor vs Creator
Maru vs Lambo
RotterdaM1272
IndyStarCraft 285
TKL 205
Rex160
IntoTheiNu 21
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1272
IndyStarCraft 285
TKL 205
Rex 160
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 7255
Calm 5267
Bisu 3049
Horang2 1548
Jaedong 1304
Larva 905
BeSt 685
Stork 490
actioN 399
Soma 397
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 346
Light 345
Mini 344
firebathero 291
GuemChi 282
Snow 249
ggaemo 247
EffOrt 243
Rush 130
hero 124
Mong 96
Pusan 85
Sharp 85
Sea.KH 73
sorry 64
Barracks 58
PianO 53
Aegong 49
JYJ 38
Shinee 34
ToSsGirL 33
Killer 31
JulyZerg 31
Free 28
Movie 28
910 22
Hm[arnc] 19
HiyA 18
soO 17
Shine 16
scan(afreeca) 16
Terrorterran 15
zelot 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Sacsri 6
Dota 2
qojqva1902
Gorgc756
Dendi190
Counter-Strike
x6flipin560
byalli520
Other Games
hiko743
B2W.Neo741
olofmeister501
crisheroes277
Pyrionflax173
Fuzer 164
Sick138
ArmadaUGS82
Mew2King59
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick266
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 83
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 9
• HerbMon 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota266
League of Legends
• TFBlade432
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
10h 44m
Replay Cast
18h 44m
LiuLi Cup
20h 44m
Clem vs Rogue
SHIN vs Cyan
Replay Cast
1d 9h
The PondCast
1d 19h
KCM Race Survival
1d 19h
LiuLi Cup
1d 20h
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
2 days
Online Event
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-09
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.