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Update
On December 26 2019 02:42 Nerchio wrote:
I would like to inform you about the solution to the problem of missing salary from Mkers team. As a result of talks between lawyers, the money is in my account and I consider this matter so far to be resolved.
Hello everyone,
As of writing this post Mkers organization still owes me salary for 2 months as well as reimbursement for 2 WCS tournaments in Kiev (WCS Spring and WCS Summer). I was hesitating about coming forward with this information for the past 2 months as I was still hoping we can resolve this situation on good terms but Mkers has ceased all communications with me and it shows that they want to keep my money in their own pocket.
This message will be about the dark side of esports and bad treatment of players by teams which might go unnoticed if players don’t decide to come forward with their own problems which very often are sad and embarrassing. I am pretty well known in Starcraft 2 scene and had a fair share of success in my career, so imagine if it happened to me then it can happen to any of your favourite players and especially players that are less known than me. I consider myself lucky because in 9 years of my career I always parted ways with teams on good terms but unfortunately it is a different story with Mkers.
Before signing with Mkers we agreed that all main Starcraft 2 events travel and accommodation will be paid by the team (if agreed beforehand) and everything went smooth in those regards only for the first event under the contract – IEM Katowice 2019. After that I tried to contact the organization to prepare the accommodation and travel for WCS Spring ahead of time so we would get cheaper flights as well as hotel. Very often time is of the essence in this matter because hotels close to the tournament venue are usually booked really fast or prices skyrocket and you unnecessarily have to overpay. But it might be just matter of convenience. For WCS Summer and WCS Spring tournament organizer required players to confirm their participation by sending your flight tickets and hotel booking around 1 week before the tournament started.
The biggest problem is that Mkers organization never responded to me before WCS Spring and I was finally forced to book everything myself at the last moment before the tournament (less than 1 week) or I would be risking withdrawal from the tournament. I was already talking to the organizers that I have troubles with the team booking and asking them for additional time to confirm my slot in the tournament. The thing about all of this is that it puts insane amount of pressure on the player when the team acts like what I described above. Traveling abroad for professional tournament should be planned beforehand from start to finish. Of course I tried signaling this to the team but I might as well have been talking to a wall. In terms of salary at this point I was still being paid although the payments started coming in late like 1 month and I usually had to ask many times for them. Before WCS Summer Mkers informed me about the termination of my contract which was signed until the end of year although they might have forgotten that there is a month of notice in the contract.
The whole communication from the upper management was run through managers who couldn’t really get in touch with the organization itself very often and all my official emails to Mkers were never really responded to.
My salaries for last 2 months playing for Mkers were never paid. As of today I am still fighting to get my money back but of course Mkers is hiding behind the cost of legal dispute over contract between entities from different countries.
I bring this story forward to open your eyes about problems that many players have to deal with but many times are not heard of. If it happened to me, it can happen to anyone in Starcraft 2 scene. We need to hold accountable those teams that hurt the players and fail to fulfill their obligations because it is not always possible or easy through court.
Thank you for reading and remember to support your favourite players in the best and the worst times.
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This was hard to read, sorry Nerchio.
It seems like the Wild West era of e-sports still lingers on.
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Sadly one of the side effects of getting mostly bottom of the barrel teams :/
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Did someone notice that he actually played? That he represented a Team and/or Sponsor? To be honest, last time i have heard somethig of Nerchio was during the Roach/Bane Allin times during HotS. What does he need a team for? Pretty sure all he does for the team is putting a couple of letters in front of his nick. Has Nerchio been streaming? Oh no wait, cant make those allins public
But make sure to support your favorite player, especially after he wishes death on someone
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Very sorry to hear this Nerchio. It is quite frankly outrageous to treat employees this way and is of course very bad for the health and development of the Starcraft pro scene to have these things.
Really hope Mkers get their shit together and own up to the agreements.
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On December 07 2019 22:53 carlosB. wrote:
Did someone notice that he actually played? That he represented a Team and/or Sponsor? To be honest, last time i have heard somethig of Nerchio was during the Roach/Bane Allin times during HotS. What does he need a team for? Pretty sure all he does for the team is putting a couple of letters in front of his nick. Has Nerchio been streaming? Oh no wait, cant make those allins public
But make sure to support your favorite player, especially after he wishes death on someone
Just registered to post this. Gee I wonder who you might be.
Situation as described by nerchio seems pretty clear, team owes him money, which if contractually agreed upon should be possible to get.
Nerchio I hope you have legal counselling in this case, I think it would would help you acquire your money in the end. Travel expanses might be tricky if the team didn't agree to it prior to the tournament, but the salary seems like a clear cut thing.
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GL getting your money back, suck to know there are still so many shady people in esport, at least Maker is still in sc2, maybe they will make things right. 
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On December 07 2019 23:11 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2019 22:53 carlosB. wrote:
Did someone notice that he actually played? That he represented a Team and/or Sponsor? To be honest, last time i have heard somethig of Nerchio was during the Roach/Bane Allin times during HotS. What does he need a team for? Pretty sure all he does for the team is putting a couple of letters in front of his nick. Has Nerchio been streaming? Oh no wait, cant make those allins public
But make sure to support your favorite player, especially after he wishes death on someone Just registered to post this. Gee I wonder who you might be. Situation as described by nerchio seems pretty clear, team owes him money, which if contractually agreed upon should be possible to get. Nerchio I hope you have legal counselling in this case, I think it would would help you acquire your money in the end. Travel expanses might be tricky if the team didn't agree to it prior to the tournament, but the salary seems like a clear cut thing.
Smart move by Nerchio; Sign for a team > ??? > "Where is ma money!?". Who are you?
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It's a shame to hear this, it's happened many times before but I'm surprised to hear it about Mkers.
Sadly it's usually all too easy for teams to get away with breaching contracts knowing the player has no way of getting any recourse.
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On December 07 2019 23:15 carlosB. wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2019 23:11 Branch.AUT wrote:On December 07 2019 22:53 carlosB. wrote:
Did someone notice that he actually played? That he represented a Team and/or Sponsor? To be honest, last time i have heard somethig of Nerchio was during the Roach/Bane Allin times during HotS. What does he need a team for? Pretty sure all he does for the team is putting a couple of letters in front of his nick. Has Nerchio been streaming? Oh no wait, cant make those allins public
But make sure to support your favorite player, especially after he wishes death on someone Just registered to post this. Gee I wonder who you might be. Situation as described by nerchio seems pretty clear, team owes him money, which if contractually agreed upon should be possible to get. Nerchio I hope you have legal counselling in this case, I think it would would help you acquire your money in the end. Travel expanses might be tricky if the team didn't agree to it prior to the tournament, but the salary seems like a clear cut thing. Smart move by Nerchio; Sign for a team >??? > "Where is ma money!?". Who are you?
Meh, if they want to whine, then they needed to negociate his contract with results clauses. It seems they didn't so they better damn pay their employee.
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sadly this thread will soon be filled with scam artist worshipers trying to sell us the incoherent moral position that if someone places professional trust in another person and/or doesn't have the legal knowledge or leverage to pursue justice that they somehow "deserve" to be scammed and robbed
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Yes, this is unacceptable. If this team is still involved in Starcraft 2 they should suffer consequences for clearly immoral behavior like this.
I don't know if the WCS system has some kind of means to officially penalize teams that don't abide by their contracts (they really should if they don't), but certainly fans should not support them until this is rectified.
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I fully support your coming forward and know how hard it is as a player to do that. Really hope you can get your money man.
That said.... you haven't actually posted anything in the department of proof or evidence... :/
Could you at least post some chat log where you're attempting to get your response or something? As much as I'd love to see an org burn and die for doing this disgusting shit, it's always good to see proof first.
And to go even further... If you do indeed have that proof, please, please god send it to a twitch admin (one of the teams only real sponsors as far as I can see?)
If this team is doing it to YOU, someone who has been around for so long, then chances are they are doing it to their other players as well. I'm sure companies like Twitch would not be happy to hear about that.
and edit: On December 07 2019 22:53 carlosB. wrote:
I'm an idiot
Yeah, we know. 2 posts, fuck off.
also edit: a better thread title would be more ideal imo... it currently has an almost clicky bait title.. >.>
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On December 07 2019 22:53 carlosB. wrote:
Did someone notice that he actually played? That he represented a Team and/or Sponsor? To be honest, last time i have heard somethig of Nerchio was during the Roach/Bane Allin times during HotS. What does he need a team for? Pretty sure all he does for the team is putting a couple of letters in front of his nick. Has Nerchio been streaming? Oh no wait, cant make those allins public
But make sure to support your favorite player, especially after he wishes death on someone
I really hope you are a staff member of Mkers or something, because if you are a random guy just trolling here... well... jesus christ...
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That sucks, I hope everything is resolved soon
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Ah damn, that sucks. All the best Nerchio, and hope to see you in WCS next year!
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It’s not like Nerchio is some naive kid here either who didn’t sign formal contracts or whatever. Although naive kids also shouldn’t be taken advantage of.
If Nerchio’s version of events is at all accurate, Mkers players should be barred from WCS competition until he gets his money.
eSports doesn’t have to be a Wild West, especially not Starcraft because Blizzard actively run so much of the scene and are thus in a position to regulate.
Sometimes a business does go bust and can’t meet certain financial obligations sure, that’s slightly different than a team having a roster that they’ve since added to while not honouring agreements made with an ex player.
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On December 07 2019 23:15 carlosB. wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2019 23:11 Branch.AUT wrote:On December 07 2019 22:53 carlosB. wrote:
Did someone notice that he actually played? That he represented a Team and/or Sponsor? To be honest, last time i have heard somethig of Nerchio was during the Roach/Bane Allin times during HotS. What does he need a team for? Pretty sure all he does for the team is putting a couple of letters in front of his nick. Has Nerchio been streaming? Oh no wait, cant make those allins public
But make sure to support your favorite player, especially after he wishes death on someone Just registered to post this. Gee I wonder who you might be. Situation as described by nerchio seems pretty clear, team owes him money, which if contractually agreed upon should be possible to get. Nerchio I hope you have legal counselling in this case, I think it would would help you acquire your money in the end. Travel expanses might be tricky if the team didn't agree to it prior to the tournament, but the salary seems like a clear cut thing. Smart move by Nerchio; Sign for a team > ??? > "Where is ma money!?". Who are you?
Utterly fucking irrelevant, go Google ‘contract’ before you spout even more bollocks on your third post.
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