Mkers: Payment Withhold Dispute - Page 3

On December 08 2019 10:12 carlba wrote:

"if". Good one. So you are just talking out of your ass

On December 08 2019 07:41 Wombat_NI wrote:

How do you have a union in a multinational industry that crosses many different borders and different legal and employment codes?

As someone who is a strong advocate of unionisation I don’t see how this is workable at all

Ultimately who’s going to be the arbiter here anyway?
Blizzard?

How is that functionally any different from me suggesting Blizzard should punish teams who don’t honour their contracts to players?

On December 08 2019 10:28 Nakajin wrote:


I would be curious to know how sports league do it, I know in NA some (all?) big sports league have a player union, but it is a traditionnaly a mess to negociate both with the league and each team manager.

Honestly I think "our" best bet is some kind of public or etatic juristiction of esport.
For exemple if as a team you needed to ask a the status of "esport organisation in X game" to the EU which would give you a specific legal existence and come with some specific amount of rules to follow and if you didn't you would lose you autorisation to compete in tournament in the EU. (or got a fine or a suspension or whatever) Of course that mean tournaments would also need to be under that governing body (and maybe the player too?)

It's not really an idea for this century but it's the best idea that pop into my head. (of course you can start with that and end up with another IOC)

On December 08 2019 10:29 carlba wrote:

"If that contract was fulfilled by Nerchio, he deserves the money". What a wise post.

On December 07 2019 23:15 carlosB. wrote:

Smart move by Nerchio; Sign for a team > ??? > "Where is ma money!?". Who are you?

On December 08 2019 15:34 -Kyo- wrote:
17 hours this post has been up and Nerchio hasn't provided any proof. Imo for a thread that could damage a team's reputation there needs to be some collaboration here. Either directly to the admins, or some other pro player providing proof. A person's word is one thing, but facts and evidence are indisputable.

On December 08 2019 17:54 -Kyo- wrote:


This is what I said would be reasonably expected. Again, I think he is being truthful, but you simply cannot post something like this and use community leverage to your advantage without posting some form of evidence, it's rather unfair.

Just imagine if, for whatever reason, Nercho was not being fully truthful here. That's the sort of thing you should think about before you take any side.



Because it has happened in other communities before, and it's an organization that has sponsorship, players, and staff at risk. If you're willing to put those things on blast, and at risk of being dissolved, the least you could do is put a chat log where you don't get any response from said manager.
Just to be clear, TL is a tight nit community - so I think we can all take Nerchio as being truthful here. That said, it does not absolve him of providing any evidence as he is attempting to use the community to pressure Mkers - or to damage their org given their current standstill over his contract/payments.

On December 08 2019 17:54 -Kyo- wrote:


This is what I said would be reasonably expected. Again, I think he is being truthful, but you simply cannot post something like this and use community leverage to your advantage without posting some form of evidence, it's rather unfair.

Just imagine if, for whatever reason, Nercho was not being fully truthful here. That's the sort of thing you should think about before you take any side.