The qualifiers for GSL Super Tournament 2 have concluded, determining fourteen players who will play in the final GSL tournament of the year. Trap and Rogue, current Code S finalists, will be given seeds to complete the sixteen-player roster.
The race to finish in the top eight of the WCS Korea standings and earn a Global Finals spot has become clearer following the qualifiers. Maru, soO, and Dark have clinched spots by winning seed-awarding tournaments, while Trap and Rogue are mathematically confirmed on points. The three remaining spots will be decided by how points the other contenders earn at the Super Tournament, and whether or not Classic receives permission from the Korean military to travel overseas.
While most of the Global Finals hopefuls managed to qualify for the Super Tournament, Dear saw his chances diminish heavily after dropping out in the qualifiers, while Hurricane was eliminated entirely from the running.
Super Tournament 2 will be held between October 3rd and 6th, with 30,000,000 KRW in prize money (~$25,000 USD) on the line alongside WCS Korea points.
Table includes minimum # of points already earned in Code S & Super Tournament
Some official clarity on whether or not Classic can actually go would be really nice to have some time soon. Just too much guessing based off of very little actual information.
Also would help with the esports fan fic writing for the perfect Super Tournament
By the way because the map order for these qualifiers is set and therefore Acropolis was the last map in every match, we can extrapolate the winrates for that map:
PvZ: 3-3 (50%) TvP: 2-3 (40%) ZvT: 5-0 (100%)
Small sample size, but matches the general consensus that it's not a good map for Terran.
On September 24 2019 02:51 Elentos wrote: Some official clarity on whether or not Classic can actually go would be really nice to have some time soon. Just too much guessing based off of very little actual information.
Also would help with the esports fan fic writing for the perfect Super Tournament
Artosis said on the Pylon Show that he is certain that Classic is not allowed to go, because he wasn't allowed either at Katowice ( I think ist was), because of his upcoming military service.
On September 24 2019 02:51 Elentos wrote: Some official clarity on whether or not Classic can actually go would be really nice to have some time soon. Just too much guessing based off of very little actual information.
Also would help with the esports fan fic writing for the perfect Super Tournament
Artosis said on the Pylon Show that he is certain that Classic is not allowed to go, because he wasn't allowed either at Katowice ( I think ist was), because of his upcoming military service.
Artosis seems to be going off the same information everyone else is. Which is not a lot.
On September 24 2019 02:51 Elentos wrote: Some official clarity on whether or not Classic can actually go would be really nice to have some time soon. Just too much guessing based off of very little actual information.
Also would help with the esports fan fic writing for the perfect Super Tournament
The date is November 2, Blizzard just announce the day before that this will be last time Starcraft 2 is on stage at Anaheim.
As we cut from Rotti sheading tears at the analysis desk, Tastosis hype the crowd; a towering man emerged from the smoke and light, the Shield of Aiur having overcome all of his demon look to be crown the ultimate protoss. After crushing the Silver Surfer in group stage, he went blow for blow in an epic match with the reigning world champion Serral and emerge victorious. His rest was cut short with another monster lurking around the corner. The Terran Prince himself defied him, but despite having just crush his fan favourite Reynor, he was no match for the king of Protoss.
Stats is showered with applause, we cut to mike Morhaime, Kim Phan, Day 9 and MisterBitter in the crowd all chanting his name.
Then sudden silence a slow music build up and went we hit the climax... well nothing, but 12 second later another guys come out, somehow looking both confuse and bored, he step up uneasily to Smix and stay stiff as a wooden plank until it's time to shake his opponnent hands.
This is a man no one saw coming, overcoming adversity from the get go, he took early decisive loss at the hands of Serral and needed an epic comeback vs Heromarine down 0-1, winning the last game after the German terran, 60 supply up decided to a-move all his SVC on destructible rocks then quit because terran is too weak. It looked grimed foe his chances, but from then on it was nothing but domination, a victory over GSL champion Trap send him to the quarter where he faced up against the perennial best american Neeb and after that it was the surprising herO that was no match for him.
Both players go back to their computers for maybe the last time ever, two men will compete for the right to be call the greatest Starcraft player in the world. The crowd hold his breath in anticipation as the familiar sound of the SC2 clock resonate in the arena for the last time.
The fury start; adepts shades left and right, oracles zooms in mineral lines, cannons and shield batteries are build and DT are expertly warp in from warp prisons. 50 minutes latter as the dust settle, a giant luminous 4 throne over the head of one of the player, while the other has nothing but a circle of shame.
The victor, walk toward the trophy as the crowd wake up from the stupor the match has left them in to applaud him, but as Tasstless gets ready to scream his name, he suddenly turn back. In a move reminiscent of Achilles dragging Hector behind his chariot under the walls of Troy, he jogs a little to go shake Stats hands as he try to pack up his keyboard.
After a bad Tastosis pun to kill the time, our ultimate world champion finally lift the trophy and kinda smile, while Tastless finally gets to say the last words of his casting career:
DEAR IS YOUR WORLD CHAMPION!!!!!
Smix goes back on the stage, we learn that our champion feels great and that with his money he will invite his practice partner to the restaurant.
The camera zooms out and then the stream cut to the semi-final of the WOW Arena tournament, both nothing and way to many fucking things are happening on the screen.
On September 24 2019 04:09 i-MajiN wrote: Why Dear is still able to qualify ? He was not able to qualify for ST so he should eliminated no ?
If Classic has to drop out and nobody passes Dear by points during the ST, Dear makes it anyway.
there's a chance he's out just by bracket draw, just because it's impossible for someone NOT to pass him
I don't think that's quite the case, only TY could tie him in points with the guaranteed 450 for RO8, no one can pass him with a first round win alone.
On September 24 2019 04:09 i-MajiN wrote: Why Dear is still able to qualify ? He was not able to qualify for ST so he should eliminated no ?
If Classic has to drop out and nobody passes Dear by points during the ST, Dear makes it anyway.
there's a chance he's out just by bracket draw, just because it's impossible for someone NOT to pass him
I don't think that's quite the case, only TY could tie him in points with the guaranteed 450 for RO8, no one can pass him with a first round win alone.
TY would tie him with RO4. Standings in OP are already taking the 225 for qualifying today into consideration. TY's by far the closest to Dear and he needs a RO4 to tie. Everyone else needs finals or better. It just seems more likely to me that the finalists will end up being players who are already ahead of Dear.
so, not calculating Classic's spot, if my math is correct than ONLY Ragnarok OR TY can make it to the top 8, ONLY if they win the entire tournament, ONLY if herO or Stats will drop at the first round. oh and in Ragnarok case he can only force a tie and only with Stats, in which case the spot will be decided by a tie breaker if i'm not mistaken.
I know Maru qualified beating Protoss, but if he faces one not named Parting in the first round, he's going to lose. Unless they're about 30 tiers below him, Maru seems almost incapable of beating Protoss outside of the GSL.
On September 24 2019 11:14 Boggyb wrote: I know Maru qualified beating Protoss, but if he faces one not named Parting in the first round, he's going to lose. Unless they're about 30 tiers below him, Maru seems almost incapable of beating Protoss outside of the GSL.
Hasn't he only lost to Stats? The best protoss of the last few years, who's incredible in weekenders, and is one of the few people to take out Serral in a longer series.
On September 24 2019 09:21 batatm wrote: so, not calculating Classic's spot, if my math is correct than ONLY Ragnarok OR TY can make it to the top 8, ONLY if they win the entire tournament, ONLY if herO or Stats will drop at the first round. oh and in Ragnarok case he can only force a tie and only with Stats, in which case the spot will be decided by a tie breaker if i'm not mistaken.
You are mistaken... anyone in green can still make it to Blizzcon if things break right.
On September 24 2019 11:14 Boggyb wrote: I know Maru qualified beating Protoss, but if he faces one not named Parting in the first round, he's going to lose. Unless they're about 30 tiers below him, Maru seems almost incapable of beating Protoss outside of the GSL.
Hasn't he only lost to Stats? The best protoss of the last few years, who's incredible in weekenders, and is one of the few people to take out Serral in a longer series.
He lost to both Trap and Neeb in the group stages of Katowice as well. If you include last year, he lost to sOs a few times, Dear, and Classic. The numbers aren't high in terms of total losses, but Maru plays so few tournaments and he seems to lose them all to Protoss.
On September 24 2019 09:21 batatm wrote: so, not calculating Classic's spot, if my math is correct than ONLY Ragnarok OR TY can make it to the top 8, ONLY if they win the entire tournament, ONLY if herO or Stats will drop at the first round. oh and in Ragnarok case he can only force a tie and only with Stats, in which case the spot will be decided by a tie breaker if i'm not mistaken.
You are mistaken... anyone in green can still make it to Blizzcon if things break right.
i DID say not calculating Classic's spot... all the rest that's in the green and had not been accounted for by me, can only rely on Classic giving up his spot due to military not alowing him to go abroad.
On September 24 2019 09:21 batatm wrote: so, not calculating Classic's spot, if my math is correct than ONLY Ragnarok OR TY can make it to the top 8, ONLY if they win the entire tournament, ONLY if herO or Stats will drop at the first round. oh and in Ragnarok case he can only force a tie and only with Stats, in which case the spot will be decided by a tie breaker if i'm not mistaken.
You are mistaken... anyone in green can still make it to Blizzcon if things break right.
i DID say not calculating Classic's spot... all the rest that's in the green and had not been accounted for by me, can only rely on Classic giving up his spot due to military not alowing him to go abroad.
Ah, sorry that was worded weirdly. So if you calculate the top 8 with Classic included (I thought you meant the opposite), then yes. Dear would already be out and TY/Rag would need to win and like you said Stats would need to lose in the first round. herO can win in the first round and either TY and Rag could still make it in by winning ST.
Wow, wtf is that braket? The Blizzcon Race might end rather early, as everyone still trying to overtake Dear but Gumiho is cramped together.. And also Dark vs Maru in the 1st Round???
On September 24 2019 17:56 dbRic1203 wrote: Wow, wtf is that braket? The Blizzcon Race might end rather early, as everyone still trying to overtake Dear but Gumiho is cramped together.. And also Dark vs Maru in the 1st Round???
I like this bracket instead! High level matches and cutthroat elimination matchups from the start.
On September 24 2019 09:21 batatm wrote: so, not calculating Classic's spot, if my math is correct than ONLY Ragnarok OR TY can make it to the top 8, ONLY if they win the entire tournament, ONLY if herO or Stats will drop at the first round. oh and in Ragnarok case he can only force a tie and only with Stats, in which case the spot will be decided by a tie breaker if i'm not mistaken.
TY vs Rag first round
EDIT: Also, if Rogue wins vs Trap in GSL, he probably will win vs Stats in ST2 as well. Meaning Stats is out
EDIT: LOVE IT! This ST2 shapes up nicely. All on the table from the getgo
On September 24 2019 21:12 Harris1st wrote: EDIT: Also, if Rogue wins vs Trap in GSL, he probably will win vs Stats in ST2 as well. Meaning Stats is out
Or he'll just take a break like Maru did in past Super Tournaments.
If TY overcomes his old nemesis of being the worst player in Korea during any given Super Tournament for no reason, he and Stats can both end up making Blizzcon.
On September 24 2019 13:19 Akio wrote: So pragmatically speaking TY needs to win to make it to Blizzcon rip
TY's case here seemed like what happened to Rogue in the last 2017, qualified Blizzcon by winning the Super Tournament.
Difference being that Rogue was entering a career high while this year as a whole is the lowest point for TY in LotV.
Lowest point of LotV for TY? He made a Homestory Cup final. That's significantly more impressive than winning a small tournament in Katowice or winning a joke of a Chinese tournament with an inflated prize pool.
On September 24 2019 13:19 Akio wrote: So pragmatically speaking TY needs to win to make it to Blizzcon rip
TY's case here seemed like what happened to Rogue in the last 2017, qualified Blizzcon by winning the Super Tournament.
Difference being that Rogue was entering a career high while this year as a whole is the lowest point for TY in LotV.
Lowest point of LotV for TY? He made a Homestory Cup final. That's significantly more impressive than winning a small tournament in Katowice or winning a joke of a Chinese tournament with an inflated prize pool.
On September 24 2019 13:19 Akio wrote: So pragmatically speaking TY needs to win to make it to Blizzcon rip
TY's case here seemed like what happened to Rogue in the last 2017, qualified Blizzcon by winning the Super Tournament.
Difference being that Rogue was entering a career high while this year as a whole is the lowest point for TY in LotV.
Lowest point of LotV for TY? He made a Homestory Cup final. That's significantly more impressive than winning a small tournament in Katowice or winning a joke of a Chinese tournament with an inflated prize pool.
Losing HSC finals is just a career killer man.
Not if you drink enough to forget you even attended a HSC.
On September 24 2019 13:19 Akio wrote: So pragmatically speaking TY needs to win to make it to Blizzcon rip
TY's case here seemed like what happened to Rogue in the last 2017, qualified Blizzcon by winning the Super Tournament.
Difference being that Rogue was entering a career high while this year as a whole is the lowest point for TY in LotV.
Lowest point of LotV for TY? He made a Homestory Cup final. That's significantly more impressive than winning a small tournament in Katowice or winning a joke of a Chinese tournament with an inflated prize pool.
It seems that some guys dont know Classic will probably not go to BLZCON. But if it happens (very possible) the 9 highest score guys aside from Classic can go to the FINAL
Really want PartinG to make a dream run and take the whole thing, he would be a treat to have at Blizzcon -- PartinG is clearly a tier below most of the top 32 in the world, but he performs brilliantly in high pressure situations and is a terrifying player with enough preparation time and longer series.
On September 24 2019 03:02 Cricketer12 wrote: Can we get a stats biased bracket gsl? K thanks
Is my impression wrong? But Stats seems to have had bad draws this year. Man, I hope Stats still gets to go to Blizzcon this year. I also hope that TY somehow sneaks in too.
On September 25 2019 16:12 gulii wrote: No! Stats vs GSL winner.
I want him to win it all.
Doesn't have to be bad, if Rogue wins he will just have showed his strongest ZvP chops in a long BO7 series, unless it goes full on weird because its a teamkill =P
Could be pretty good for Stats in that case, if Trap wins though then yeah, Stats is in trouble.
On September 25 2019 16:12 gulii wrote: No! Stats vs GSL winner.
I want him to win it all.
Doesn't have to be bad, if Rogue wins he will just have showed his strongest ZvP chops in a long BO7 series, unless it goes full on weird because its a teamkill =P
Could be pretty good for Stats in that case, if Trap wins though then yeah, Stats is in trouble.
Technicaly speaking if somebody wants STats to win it all he has to be able to beat the GSL victor too
On September 25 2019 16:12 gulii wrote: No! Stats vs GSL winner.
I want him to win it all.
Doesn't have to be bad, if Rogue wins he will just have showed his strongest ZvP chops in a long BO7 series, unless it goes full on weird because its a teamkill =P
Could be pretty good for Stats in that case, if Trap wins though then yeah, Stats is in trouble.
Technicaly speaking if somebody wants STats to win it all he has to be able to beat the GSL victor too
You know that is incorrect, technically, figuratively, theoretically, practically or whichever way of thinking you can come up with that is incorrect.
The champion of ST2 doesn't have to be able to beat the GSL champion. Only Stats have to be able to do that to win ST2 because of bracket unluck.
On September 25 2019 16:12 gulii wrote: No! Stats vs GSL winner.
I want him to win it all.
Doesn't have to be bad, if Rogue wins he will just have showed his strongest ZvP chops in a long BO7 series, unless it goes full on weird because its a teamkill =P
Could be pretty good for Stats in that case, if Trap wins though then yeah, Stats is in trouble.
Technicaly speaking if somebody wants STats to win it all he has to be able to beat the GSL victor too
You know that is incorrect, technically, figuratively, theoretically, practically or whichever way of thinking you can come up with that is incorrect.
The champion of ST2 doesn't have to be able to beat the GSL champion. Only Stats have to be able to do that to win ST2 because of bracket unluck.
If we think about GSL champ as a player who's supposed to be the favorte for ST championsip(unless he's Maru ) then he needs to be able to win against the champ I still stand behind what I wrote.
Or worse case, he has to be able to beat sombody who's beaten the code S champ and is better
On September 25 2019 16:12 gulii wrote: No! Stats vs GSL winner.
I want him to win it all.
Doesn't have to be bad, if Rogue wins he will just have showed his strongest ZvP chops in a long BO7 series, unless it goes full on weird because its a teamkill =P
Could be pretty good for Stats in that case, if Trap wins though then yeah, Stats is in trouble.
Technicaly speaking if somebody wants STats to win it all he has to be able to beat the GSL victor too
You know that is incorrect, technically, figuratively, theoretically, practically or whichever way of thinking you can come up with that is incorrect.
The champion of ST2 doesn't have to be able to beat the GSL champion. Only Stats have to be able to do that to win ST2 because of bracket unluck.
If we think about GSL champ as a player who's supposed to be the favorte for ST championsip(unless he's Maru ) then he needs to be able to win against the champ I still stand behind what I wrote.
Or worse case, he has to be able to beat sombody who's beaten the code S champ and is better
Yeah I get your point, however you are basically arguing that bracket luck isn't a thing.
There is a reason GSL finalists are seeded on opposite sides, because beating the player that defeated X player can in some cases be a lot easier than defeating X players yourself.
Take GSL vs the world, switch Stats with Elazer and we might have had Dark and Maru in that semifinals instead of Neeb and Elazer.
On September 25 2019 16:12 gulii wrote: No! Stats vs GSL winner.
I want him to win it all.
Doesn't have to be bad, if Rogue wins he will just have showed his strongest ZvP chops in a long BO7 series, unless it goes full on weird because its a teamkill =P
Could be pretty good for Stats in that case, if Trap wins though then yeah, Stats is in trouble.
Technicaly speaking if somebody wants STats to win it all he has to be able to beat the GSL victor too
You know that is incorrect, technically, figuratively, theoretically, practically or whichever way of thinking you can come up with that is incorrect.
The champion of ST2 doesn't have to be able to beat the GSL champion. Only Stats have to be able to do that to win ST2 because of bracket unluck.
If we think about GSL champ as a player who's supposed to be the favorte for ST championsip(unless he's Maru ) then he needs to be able to win against the champ I still stand behind what I wrote.
Or worse case, he has to be able to beat sombody who's beaten the code S champ and is better
When was the last time a GSL champ also won ST? And why can't you just admit, that what you wrote, was wrong?
On September 25 2019 16:12 gulii wrote: No! Stats vs GSL winner.
I want him to win it all.
Doesn't have to be bad, if Rogue wins he will just have showed his strongest ZvP chops in a long BO7 series, unless it goes full on weird because its a teamkill =P
Could be pretty good for Stats in that case, if Trap wins though then yeah, Stats is in trouble.
Technicaly speaking if somebody wants STats to win it all he has to be able to beat the GSL victor too
You know that is incorrect, technically, figuratively, theoretically, practically or whichever way of thinking you can come up with that is incorrect.
The champion of ST2 doesn't have to be able to beat the GSL champion. Only Stats have to be able to do that to win ST2 because of bracket unluck.
If we think about GSL champ as a player who's supposed to be the favorte for ST championsip(unless he's Maru ) then he needs to be able to win against the champ I still stand behind what I wrote.
Or worse case, he has to be able to beat sombody who's beaten the code S champ and is better
When was the last time a GSL champ also won ST? And why can't you just admit, that what you wrote, was wrong?
Well if the GSL champ isn't the favorite then Stats fine, isn't he? And if he is supposed to win it all he has to win against everyone.
But yeah, bracket luck is a thing (to the post above)
On September 25 2019 16:12 gulii wrote: No! Stats vs GSL winner.
I want him to win it all.
Doesn't have to be bad, if Rogue wins he will just have showed his strongest ZvP chops in a long BO7 series, unless it goes full on weird because its a teamkill =P
Rogue in a preperation bo7 is gonna do the weirdest builds you've ever seen. Teamkill just adds to it.
EPT
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2019 AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament 2/Qualifier
I still stand behind what I wrote.
