What's pro TvP going to be like in the new season? Short, if Group B was anything to go by. Trap, Cure, TY, and herO all looked to seize the initiative early on in their Ro16 group, bringing with them a slew of proxies, timings, and early-game tricks (the losers match did offer some room for new EMP shenanigans, with both Cure liberally coating herO's army with EMPs in a couple of lengthier games).
Last season's runner-up Trap proved to be the most proficient on both the offensive and defensive end, and was the first to escape the melee with victories over Cure and TY.
TY came through in second place, surviving his initial match against an aggressive-minded herO, losing the winners match to Trap, and then taking out Cure in the sole mirror-match of the night. Advancing to the quarterfinals keeps TY's WCS Global Finals campaign alive, as he now stands just outside the cutoff at #9 in the rankings.
With Group A and B complete, two quarterfinal matches are set on opposite sides of the bracket: Dark vs TY and KeeN vs Trap. The Code S Ro16 will resume on Wednesday, Sep 04 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) with Group C, which has been pegged as the group of death. Maru, Solar, Stats, and Rogue will fight for two quarterfinal spots. (check out Liquipedia for more information).
Obviously Dark vs TY is a really hype matchup but I think KeeN vs Trap could become something very cool, at this point wouldn't be surprised in either one winning despite Trap being favored on paper.
On September 01 2019 03:58 Conut wrote: What do you think keens odds are? I really hope he puts up a good fight and maybe even takes it, however trap is just so solid.
Would be nice for him to have the run of his career since it's his last season
No chance for Keen. Trap is currently the best PvT player
On September 01 2019 05:54 brickrd wrote: watching hero and trap was funny, trap would do a build and win, then hero would do the yolo NA nutsack version of the same build and get obliterated
herO is a victim of his own nature honestly. He should never lose the 2nd game against Cure. But instead he decides to suicide on the planetary. On even bases. And not just once.
On September 01 2019 03:58 Conut wrote: What do you think keens odds are? I really hope he puts up a good fight and maybe even takes it, however trap is just so solid.
Would be nice for him to have the run of his career since it's his last season
No chance for Keen. Trap is currently the best PvT player
Trap may currently be the best PvT player and he's favored over Keen, who's not totally hopeless to be honest.
On September 01 2019 03:18 MooLen wrote: You pasted the rankings for Group A. So sad for Cure he really pulled off a solid performance in all games
Was unfortunate he had to play the TvT player in the decider. I think he had a better shot against Trap.
Honestly the games were solid I really thought he had a shot against TY, BUT I LOVE TY so it's all good haha
The TvT was honestly not close at all. Cure just survived for a long time because his macro is honestly insane. But he was outplayed the entire time.
True but I think holding your own and forcing g a game to extend, at least game one, showed he was a great player and had me worried for game two, game two was a beatdown tho
On September 01 2019 03:58 Conut wrote: What do you think keens odds are? I really hope he puts up a good fight and maybe even takes it, however trap is just so solid.
Would be nice for him to have the run of his career since it's his last season
No chance for Keen. Trap is currently the best PvT player
Trap may currently be the best PvT player and he's favored over Keen, who's not totally hopeless to be honest.
Yea I think there is a chance but it's not super high maybe like 3-1 odds for trap
On September 01 2019 03:58 Conut wrote: What do you think keens odds are? I really hope he puts up a good fight and maybe even takes it, however trap is just so solid.
Would be nice for him to have the run of his career since it's his last season
No chance for Keen. Trap is currently the best PvT player
Id give it trap too at the moment but Aliguliac has Dear as best PvT. It used to be Classic.
Trap seemed to have a really good understanding of the matchup pre patch.
As usual TY is just a baller but everything went against him in his match with Trap--it was comical. Even Tastosis were in on the "did he piss off God" jokes. Not to take anything away from Trap...this lad's looking solid as usual these days.
Feelsbadman for Cure. His TvT is quite good, but anyone (including Maru) has to be on their A game against TY.
TY regularly despairs against P/Z on stream but always replies with "TvT easy" when asked about that matchup. Really hope he has a good finish for S3 and Super Tournament 2 so he can make it to BlizzCon. Would love to see him get revenge on Serral for the last two tourney losses.
On September 01 2019 21:57 DieuCure wrote: It's quite sad, but at least TY can still qualify for Blizzcon.
He isn't beating Dark but luckily Dear isn't getting out of his ro16 group either
He's gonna have to rely on Classic not being allowed to go, or doing at least two rounds better than Dear in super tournament
Imagine TY advancing a round in a Super Tournament.
I do think part of the reason he never did well in them was because he was always a lock for blizzcon anyway, and has always been good enough financially to not need it.
Rogue and Maru have been the same. The one time Rogue urgently needed to do well in super tournament he won it.
I think TY has a very good chance against Dark. Dark did not impress in his group even though he advanced in first, and TY isn't going to make a mistake like not building ghosts.
On September 01 2019 21:57 DieuCure wrote: It's quite sad, but at least TY can still qualify for Blizzcon.
He isn't beating Dark but luckily Dear isn't getting out of his ro16 group either
He's gonna have to rely on Classic not being allowed to go, or doing at least two rounds better than Dear in super tournament
Imagine TY advancing a round in a Super Tournament.
I do think part of the reason he never did well in them was because he was always a lock for blizzcon anyway, and has always been good enough financially to not need it.
Rogue and Maru have been the same. The one time Rogue urgently needed to do well in super tournament he won it.
Super tournament is a weekender, that's why Maru doesn't win it
If TY thinks he can beat Serral(and he went up 3-2 against him), he shouldn't be scared by Dark in his most recent shape.
On September 02 2019 04:18 dysenterymd wrote: I think TY has a very good chance against Dark. Dark did not impress in his group even though he advanced in first, and TY isn't going to make a mistake like not building ghosts.
I dont see TY beating Dark, his TvZ is just not that good...
On September 02 2019 04:18 dysenterymd wrote: I think TY has a very good chance against Dark. Dark did not impress in his group even though he advanced in first, and TY isn't going to make a mistake like not building ghosts.
I dont see TY beating Dark, his TvZ is just not that good...
TY's TvZ is not the best in the world but it's still quite good while Dark in 2019 is not the ZvT monster he used to be last year.
On September 01 2019 21:57 DieuCure wrote: It's quite sad, but at least TY can still qualify for Blizzcon.
He isn't beating Dark but luckily Dear isn't getting out of his ro16 group either
He's gonna have to rely on Classic not being allowed to go, or doing at least two rounds better than Dear in super tournament
Imagine TY advancing a round in a Super Tournament.
I do think part of the reason he never did well in them was because he was always a lock for blizzcon anyway, and has always been good enough financially to not need it.
Rogue and Maru have been the same. The one time Rogue urgently needed to do well in super tournament he won it.
Super tournament is a weekender, that's why Maru doesn't win it
If TY thinks he can beat Serral(and he went up 3-2 against him), he shouldn't be scared by Dark in his most recent shape.
Maru also said last year he didn't bother practicing for super tournament because Code S was more important. Super tournament has never been necessary for TY (in terms of wcs points or money) until now. For Maru it still isn't.
On September 01 2019 21:57 DieuCure wrote: It's quite sad, but at least TY can still qualify for Blizzcon.
He isn't beating Dark but luckily Dear isn't getting out of his ro16 group either
He's gonna have to rely on Classic not being allowed to go, or doing at least two rounds better than Dear in super tournament
Imagine TY advancing a round in a Super Tournament.
I do think part of the reason he never did well in them was because he was always a lock for blizzcon anyway, and has always been good enough financially to not need it.
Rogue and Maru have been the same. The one time Rogue urgently needed to do well in super tournament he won it.
Super tournament is a weekender, that's why Maru doesn't win it
If TY thinks he can beat Serral(and he went up 3-2 against him), he shouldn't be scared by Dark in his most recent shape.
Maru also said last year he didn't bother practicing for super tournament because Code S was more important. Super tournament has never been necessary for TY (in terms of wcs points or money) until now. For Maru it still isn't.
Super Tournaments are played shortly after Code S' Grand Finals, it really seems a weak excuse(and it doesn't justify Maru winning a single non preparation tournament in his whole career).
I would like to see TY winning Super Tournament, maybe being pressed to do well will make him go further this time.
On September 01 2019 21:57 DieuCure wrote: It's quite sad, but at least TY can still qualify for Blizzcon.
He isn't beating Dark but luckily Dear isn't getting out of his ro16 group either
He's gonna have to rely on Classic not being allowed to go, or doing at least two rounds better than Dear in super tournament
Imagine TY advancing a round in a Super Tournament.
I do think part of the reason he never did well in them was because he was always a lock for blizzcon anyway, and has always been good enough financially to not need it.
Rogue and Maru have been the same. The one time Rogue urgently needed to do well in super tournament he won it.
Super tournament is a weekender, that's why Maru doesn't win it
If TY thinks he can beat Serral(and he went up 3-2 against him), he shouldn't be scared by Dark in his most recent shape.
Maru also said last year he didn't bother practicing for super tournament because Code S was more important. Super tournament has never been necessary for TY (in terms of wcs points or money) until now. For Maru it still isn't.
Super Tournaments are played shortly after Code S' Grand Finals, it really seems a weak excuse(and it doesn't justify Maru winning a single non preparation tournament in his whole career).
I would like to see TY winning Super Tournament, maybe being pressed to do well will make him go further this time.
It may seem like a weak excuse but it makes sense. These guys have more money than they're realistically going to spend anyway (Maru and TY don't even find most online events worth playing in) and WCS points are usually irrelvent for these guys. Like I said, the only time Rogue ever needed to do well in super tournament he aced it.
Do we know for a fact Classic can’t attend BlizzCon? If so then #9 is really #8... but it’s a shame that a player with results as good as his won’t be able to participate... YES EVEN A PROTOSS. Classic clearly has done enough to deserve the opportunity at this point.
EPT
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