EPTElazer and Serral book all-EU final at GSL vs. The World -…
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aringadingding
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Venika
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Anc13nt
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Honestly, I think the balance is ok but zerg definitely is the best in late game. Feels to me like the room for error is a lot smaller for the other races during late game. What Morbidius said about how they are trying to bring back pretty bad metas I think is a good point. I don't know why they would want to buff nydus, immortal push and Broodlord+Infestor. That even sounds like a recipe for disaster. That said, I think the tournament has shown that the foreign scene has improved a lot, even though I do believe that this is an outlier overall. | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On August 18 2019 04:28 Latr02 wrote: Welp glad I was on vacation this week and missed this whole tournament. Big korean fanboi, eh? | ||
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rasi86
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On August 18 2019 04:37 MockHamill wrote: The game is mostly balanced, terran is just slightly too weak in early mid game in TvP and Zerg is slightly too strong in the late game. But I think we the coming patch with: 1. Nerfed infested terrans 2. Improved stim timing 3. Improved late game EMP 4. Slightly nerfed warp prisms. The game will be close to balanced. Only gglord nerf and winfestor further nerf needed. then I agree | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27201 Posts
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atira_sc2
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Psychobabas
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
At the highest level of competition, early and mid-game protoss is stupidly strong, which is why despite all of this anti-zerg balance whine, protoss has been enjoying the most tournament success, overall, out of all 3 races. Even in this tournament, protoss was over-represented in the quarter and semi-finals. Yet, somehow, all the of the balance whine is being focused entirely on zerg. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On August 18 2019 05:58 tigon_ridge wrote: If zerg can survive protoss's early and mid-game, zerg deserves to have a lategame advantage. That said, the current advantage is slightly a bit too much, but that's going to be addressed by the next patch. Versus terran, the early and mid-game is a bit less difficult to survive for zerg, so zerg's lategame advantage is currently even more unwarranted than in ZvP. That, too, will be addressed. At the highest level of competition, early and mid-game protoss is stupidly strong, which is why despite all of this anti-zerg balance whine, protoss has been enjoying the most tournament success, overall, out of all 3 races. Even in this tournament, protoss was over-represented in the quarter and semi-finals. Yet, somehow, all the of the balance whine is being focused entirely on zerg. fair point. I guess people whine about zerg because Serral makes zerg look op lol. | ||
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Rusty253
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tigon_ridge
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Die4Ever
United States17740 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2019 06:35 Die4Ever wrote: when Maru abused ravens they were nerfed into the ground so quickly, but now infestors look even worse and it's taking forever to get even a small nerf Also note that it was literally only Maru doing well with terran during that patch. The two tournaments he won with ravens both had him as the only terran in the ro8. Terran was under-represented in every event. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27201 Posts
On August 18 2019 06:32 tigon_ridge wrote: High level ZvZ is one of the most entertaining matchups to watch. It's so fast-paced and action-packed, and can be really complex; perhaps not in unit compositions variety, but certainly decision making. ZvZ is really good these days compared to a lot of SC2 history, PvP is too IMO. It’s a bit weird but there’s a lot of dynamic decision making, it’s not x build vs y build. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17740 Posts
On August 18 2019 06:41 Fango wrote: Also note that it was literally only Maru doing well with terran during that patch. The two tournaments he won with ravens both had him as the only terran in the ro8. Terran was under-represented in every event. Sometimes I wonder if Blizzard is turning a blind eye on purpose I mean they could've released the balance patch they had before this tournament instead of holding it for no reason | ||
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NotSoHappy
445 Posts
Really, can we have longer periods without patches every few months? I really want to see the metagame developping by the players and if something feels broken like mass raven/blink era/whatever else in the past we could see some small adjustments. My idea for making things better would be reversing HT nerf rather than nerfing infestor. | ||
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Balkow
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On August 18 2019 06:35 Die4Ever wrote: when Maru abused ravens they were nerfed into the ground so quickly, but now infestors look even worse and it's taking forever to get even a small nerf thats what i wonder about aswell. he was the only terran in RO8 of both Gsl and WESG of that patch if memory serves me right. meanwhile we have 5ish zergs doing good with infestors. which seems equally broken at the current balance. | ||
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terribleplayer1
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How many of you actually had a ZvZ as a likely final? It was such a longshot for Elazer to make it, and he barely got there, if Zerg was really this imbalanced wouldn't more people be predicting ZvZ? If we get a ZvZ final in GSL or 5 Zergs in GSL RO8 I think the whine is warranted, but infestors are already getting nerfed and Zerg didn't actually overperform that much. Now take a good look at map winrates for GSL vs World. TvZ => 57.1% (14 W 8 L) ZvP => 69.2% (9 W 4 L) (6 wins by Serral, 2 Losses from Serral) PvT => 75% ( 16 W 4 L) - Terrans won ZERO matches vs Protoss. | ||
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NotSoHappy
445 Posts
Stats vs Maru Trap vs Heromarine Classic vs Fanta Classiv vs Special you really want to bring any statistics about PvT with these players facing each other? | ||
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