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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-17 17:17:58
August 17 2019 17:16 GMT
#41
On August 18 2019 01:11 Fango wrote:
Conspiracy theory: Zerg becoming broken and terran being trash is intentional by blizzard to buff foreigners and lessen korean dominance.


Make sense.
Also fun fact in the last two expansion there has been a total of 39 premiers tournaments finals with at least 1 foreigner, of these 39, 36 had at least 1 zerg, the exeptions beeing uThermal-Neeb in Shanghai, Neeb-Trap in Kespa Cup and Lilbow-Mana in Poland.
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NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
August 17 2019 17:25 GMT
#42
Zerg continues to dominate 2019. Its hilarious how whiners don't realize zerg is the strongest race because they're blinded by their own low level ladder struggles against protoss.
VeritasSC2
Profile Joined July 2019
2 Posts
August 17 2019 17:29 GMT
#43
I have to say, Special is a honest guy, zerg unit, ALL OP. only make queen to win the early game and only make infester to win the late game. lol

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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
August 17 2019 17:33 GMT
#44
On August 18 2019 02:25 NinjaNight wrote:
Zerg continues to dominate 2019. Its hilarious how whiners don't realize zerg is the strongest race because they're blinded by their own low level ladder struggles against protoss.


I think it's also the serral bias factor. If it wasn't a foreign zerg having this level of success a lot more of the community would agree how bad the current state of the game is for T/P.
narusensei22
Profile Joined October 2018
31 Posts
August 17 2019 17:33 GMT
#45
It's funny how Tasteless talked about how all Koreans were mad and this news was the 1st issue in Korea when Serral won last year GvsW.

But the true fact in Korea is that there was not even a single news article about GvsW final after 1 hour of Serral vs Stats. And most of ppl in Korea didnt even realize there was GvsW going on in sc2. xDDDD Even those small group of sc2 community in Korea only congratulated Serral's victory, and nobody seemed mad about foreigner's victory in Korea. (In fact, I only saw foreigners were the only ones getting mad whenever Koreans dominate in the past)

I wonder why Tasteless wants to make up wrong information about Korea all the time recently. Maybe cuz he's stressed out whenever Korea won over the past years? But come on, I thought he is a professional caster.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
August 17 2019 17:34 GMT
#46
You need Mexicans to break EU zergs. Can't do it with Koreans. That's like bringing knifes to a gun fight.

...and I have said it before, Serral is the dispatch zerg, not a patch zerg.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
sugarmuffinpuff
Profile Joined October 2014
Canada38 Posts
August 17 2019 17:35 GMT
#47
Dang, this tournament is a serious argument for removing region lock next year.
emperorofwild
Profile Joined July 2019
87 Posts
August 17 2019 17:35 GMT
#48
On August 18 2019 01:38 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
WCS>GSL

Zerg>Terran & protoss
Eu z> Kr z
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
August 17 2019 17:35 GMT
#49
On August 18 2019 02:33 narusensei22 wrote:
It's funny how Tasteless talked about how all Koreans were mad and this news was the 1st issue in Korea when Serral won last year GvsW.

But the true fact in Korea is that there was not even a single news article about GvsW final after 1 hour of Serral vs Stats. And most of ppl in Korea didnt even realize there was GvsW going on in sc2. xDDDD Even those small group of sc2 community in Korea only congratulated Serral's victory, and nobody seemed mad about foreigner's victory in Korea. (In fact, I only saw foreigners were the only ones getting mad whenever Koreans dominate in the past)

I wonder why Tasteless wants to make up wrong information about Korea all the time recently. Maybe cuz he's stressed out whenever Korea won over the past years? But come on, I thought he is a professional caster.


I thought he said it was #1 trending on some platform, not national mourning day in Korea
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-17 19:19:43
August 17 2019 17:37 GMT
#50
Just came here to say how OP the BL + infestors combo is... Not only bad for players, bad for audience as well as zergs just try their best to turtle half an hour for these units.

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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-17 17:39:18
August 17 2019 17:38 GMT
#51
On August 18 2019 02:33 narusensei22 wrote:
It's funny how Tasteless talked about how all Koreans were mad and this news was the 1st issue in Korea when Serral won last year GvsW.

But the true fact in Korea is that there was not even a single news article about GvsW final after 1 hour of Serral vs Stats. And most of ppl in Korea didnt even realize there was GvsW going on in sc2. xDDDD Even those small group of sc2 community in Korea only congratulated Serral's victory, and nobody seemed mad about foreigner's victory in Korea. (In fact, I only saw foreigners were the only ones getting mad whenever Koreans dominate in the past)

I wonder why Tasteless wants to make up wrong information about Korea all the time recently. Maybe cuz he's stressed out whenever Korea won over the past years? But come on, I thought he is a professional caster.

I forgot the name, but I think he was talking about that big korean news forum where things trend like they do on Twitter and not about actual news channels or newspaper articles. I think GSL vs The World was at the top when Serral won.

But I don't remember Koreans being upset or mad, instead they were congratulating Serral and excited about a non-korean being that good.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
emperorofwild
Profile Joined July 2019
87 Posts
August 17 2019 17:39 GMT
#52
On August 18 2019 01:53 General1330 wrote:
Rip terran in montreal if all zerg play lategame

sounds like protoss can survive a Zerg lategame XD
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
August 17 2019 17:40 GMT
#53
If Zerg is so OP why did soO get rolled by Time and Reynor get rolled by Special?.. why can't people just let that shit go and admit these two have had a fantastic tournament off their own skill.

Breakout tournament for Elazer and continued dominance by Serral, don't discredit them. Korea had every opportunity to win this - the gap has closed and pretending that GSL is the only tournament that matters is no longer a reasonable way to assess skill in a post-Kespa era. Clearly not all of the best players in the world are in Korea anymore.

Congratulations and looking forward to the finals.
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-17 17:45:48
August 17 2019 17:42 GMT
#54
On August 18 2019 02:40 Dave4 wrote:
If Zerg is so OP why did soO get rolled by Time and Reynor get rolled by Special?.. why can't people just let that shit go and admit these two have had a fantastic tournament off their own skill.
.


Korean Zergs don't tend to play late game (or not good at), that's part of the reason why European zergs are doing so much better these days.
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
August 17 2019 17:43 GMT
#55
On August 18 2019 02:40 Dave4 wrote:
If Zerg is so OP why did soO get rolled by Time and Reynor get rolled by Special?.. why can't people just let that shit go and admit these two have had a fantastic tournament off their own skill.

Breakout tournament for Elazer and continued dominance by Serral, don't discredit them. Korea had every opportunity to win this - the gap has closed and pretending that GSL is the only tournament that matters is no longer a reasonable way to assess skill in a post-Kespa era. Clearly not all of the best players in the world are in Korea anymore.

Congratulations and looking forward to the finals.


Let them cope buddy, they're hurting so we need to be understanding to their pain
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
535 Posts
August 17 2019 17:45 GMT
#56
I think terran is OP because of GomTvT. Protoss is a race of BS, and should be nerfed to the ground. Maru is a bad player, because he can't face Serral. MVP was bad and zerg is a-move race and stuff.
Better join the whine-train....
osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
August 17 2019 17:46 GMT
#57
We should just delete 2 of the 3 races!
No more balance problems :D LOL
v5872012
Profile Joined May 2018
35 Posts
August 17 2019 17:49 GMT
#58
There's a poll in Chinese SC2 community about the opness of infestors after matches between Neeb and Elazer. Basically 95% vote for that infestors is imbalance in both zvp and zvt matchup.

Yeah..WINFESTORS

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ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States726 Posts
August 17 2019 17:51 GMT
#59
On August 18 2019 02:40 Dave4 wrote:
If Zerg is so OP why did soO get rolled by Time and Reynor get rolled by Special?.. why can't people just let that shit go and admit these two have had a fantastic tournament off their own skill.

Breakout tournament for Elazer and continued dominance by Serral, don't discredit them. Korea had every opportunity to win this - the gap has closed and pretending that GSL is the only tournament that matters is no longer a reasonable way to assess skill in a post-Kespa era. Clearly not all of the best players in the world are in Korea anymore.

Congratulations and looking forward to the finals.



Watching the Time vs Elazer match showed why for me. Terran up 2 bases at 8 bases, and can't close it out because BL-Infestor. I'm pretty sure no one is impressed by the state of the Z lategame. Infestors are simply too strong.

That said, EU zergs played better than the KR zergs this tourney. Honestly, KR dominated BW because of the culture, the teamhouse environment, and the superior internet access. Nowadays, internet is leveled out, and team houses have been all but eliminated. So, other players mimic the pertinent cultural aspects and they can play as well as Koreans. Gratz to Elazer and Serral.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
Doink
Profile Joined April 2017
75 Posts
August 17 2019 17:52 GMT
#60
Lol at all those who whine about zerg but don't see that korean zergs had no chance while the european zergs advanced. It's totally about the race though!

I hope the protoss nerfs will be effective. Poor terrans almost all get kicked out by protosses. Zerg has better methods to deal with toss.
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