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RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
August 18 2019 01:42 GMT
#121
On August 18 2019 07:45 Danjiapao wrote:
I just remembered

Ryung:IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Ryung:GG

History is always similar.

Lings of liberty2.0
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-18 01:56:29
August 18 2019 01:56 GMT
#122
On August 18 2019 10:31 Wyrd wrote:
In all honesty did anyone else feel like Maru legitimately threw? Because he truly played like, seriously bad. Allowed oracles to hit the same spot like 4 times. Tried to drop the same spot 3 times in a row instead of somewhere else. Like...literally it was stupid.

it didn't seem like his heart was in it, we'll see how he does in his GSL group
maybe he's been spending his time practicing the new patch
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ShiveryMoon
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
August 18 2019 02:09 GMT
#123
INFESTORS
COME AND WARN ME
FIX YOUR SHIT GAME

User was banned for this post.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
August 18 2019 02:10 GMT
#124
On August 18 2019 11:09 ShiveryMoon wrote:
INFESTORS
COME AND WARN ME
FIX YOUR SHIT GAME


Would a warning be enough, I wonder?
Wyrd
Profile Joined May 2011
United States211 Posts
August 18 2019 02:12 GMT
#125
On August 18 2019 11:10 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 11:09 ShiveryMoon wrote:
INFESTORS
COME AND WARN ME
FIX YOUR SHIT GAME


Would a warning be enough, I wonder?


Definitely need to ban the idiots
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26408 Posts
August 18 2019 02:15 GMT
#126
On August 18 2019 11:10 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 11:09 ShiveryMoon wrote:
INFESTORS
COME AND WARN ME
FIX YOUR SHIT GAME


Would a warning be enough, I wonder?

How many sets were even settled by infestor lategame today anyway? :S
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Wyrd
Profile Joined May 2011
United States211 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-18 02:18:09
August 18 2019 02:17 GMT
#127
On August 18 2019 11:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 11:10 Xain0n wrote:
On August 18 2019 11:09 ShiveryMoon wrote:
INFESTORS
COME AND WARN ME
FIX YOUR SHIT GAME


Would a warning be enough, I wonder?

How many sets were even settled by infestor lategame today anyway? :S


Seriously...

These insta-whiners would be in pure hell if they only had BW to play. Imagine being forced to get good at the game instead of expecting daddy Blizzard to fix all the owies for you?
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CheYHinSpark
Profile Joined August 2019
1 Post
August 18 2019 02:18 GMT
#128
I just want to know how to beat INFESTORS
Myosotis
Profile Joined March 2019
8 Posts
August 18 2019 02:28 GMT
#129
Classic and neeb did their best,but infestor…

User was warned for this post.
soO Classic TY
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26408 Posts
August 18 2019 02:28 GMT
#130
On August 18 2019 11:17 Wyrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 11:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 18 2019 11:10 Xain0n wrote:
On August 18 2019 11:09 ShiveryMoon wrote:
INFESTORS
COME AND WARN ME
FIX YOUR SHIT GAME


Would a warning be enough, I wonder?

How many sets were even settled by infestor lategame today anyway? :S


Seriously...

These insta-whiners would be in pure hell if they only had BW to play. Imagine being forced to get good at the game instead of expecting daddy Blizzard to fix all the owies for you?

I’m confused really. Maybe not the utmost quality of play ever seen, some of the most nailbiting series and drama I’ve seen in ages. Neeb somehow scraping back into the game vs Elazer in set 4 with a weird attack and DTs, Elazer then somehow recovering from the dead. Special grinding out set 4 against Classic and taking it to the rubber with a series of great engagements.

Plenty of great series today. I do think Infestors are a bit silly in the lategame but they didn’t even hugely factor into tons of the games today, that were also a historic day of triumph from the foreign scene.

Not really sure why some people can’t just enjoy at least some of the Starcraft without throwing a shitfit if their race doesn’t win a particular match
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
August 18 2019 02:38 GMT
#131
On August 18 2019 10:31 Wyrd wrote:
In all honesty did anyone else feel like Maru legitimately threw? Because he truly played like, seriously bad. Allowed oracles to hit the same spot like 4 times. Tried to drop the same spot 3 times in a row instead of somewhere else. Like...literally it was stupid.


If you've been a Maru fan for long enough, you probably have seen him make similar decisions and win. Having said that, his play did look pretty bad. I can't tell if it's because he's really giving 100% for his GSL prep, or if he's just in super bad form, or both. He hasn't exactly looked to be in tip-top shape in his last couple GSL showings.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
CraigWT
Profile Joined May 2019
97 Posts
August 18 2019 03:26 GMT
#132
So people cannot talk about infestors or balance problem here? what a free community.
Wyrd
Profile Joined May 2011
United States211 Posts
August 18 2019 03:31 GMT
#133
On August 18 2019 12:26 CraigWT wrote:
So people cannot talk about infestors or balance problem here? what a free community.


"INFESTORS" "BLIZZ FIX YOUR SHIT GAME"

ya that's a good discussion starter
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 18 2019 04:40 GMT
#134
On August 18 2019 12:26 CraigWT wrote:
So people cannot talk about infestors or balance problem here? what a free community.


We're pretty free from having to endure shitty balance whine posts. Too many of them from the same people anyways.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
UtherTruthBringer
Profile Joined June 2019
43 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-18 23:39:11
August 18 2019 04:56 GMT
#135
No one wants to see another zvz final. Again. Another. Zvz final. What is this WCS EU? Please fix glasstoss. You force. Toss to only be able to beat zerg by having godlike control on immortals. Yet keep nickel and diming on everything. Now they cost 275. All zerg does easily abuses and beats toss. Same thing on ladder

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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 18 2019 05:36 GMT
#136
I'm excited to see another ZvZ finals.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
stargazer0000
Profile Joined July 2018
1 Post
August 18 2019 05:36 GMT
#137
Blizzard! Aren't you ashamed?

User was temp banned for this post.
NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
August 18 2019 05:46 GMT
#138
On August 18 2019 09:31 Xain0n wrote:
This thread is pure madness, the amount of whine and salt reminds me of those of Twitch's chat: korean elitists, Terran suprematists, Protoss haters, ZvZ negationists, people who think Broodlords are too good and that Infestors are as op as they were in 2012...simply pathetic.

Sc2's balance this year hasn't been especially bad AND we have a patch coming out in mere days that's addressing the majority of the problems in addiction to buffing Terran for free, how pointless could it be to complain now?
Balance had little to do with results in this tournament and I also want to remind you that Serral was the only Zerg winning Premier tournaments when he was invincible last year while Infestors were not even meta.


Exactly this. "buff terran for free" thats the most important part. I honestly can't see them losing late game vs zerg now after IT nerf. Issues with ZvP in late game should be fixed by buffing protoss not nerfing zerg. Eg HT nerf removal or something else.
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
August 18 2019 06:54 GMT
#139
On August 18 2019 07:23 terribleplayer1 wrote:
Why so much whine about Zerg out of the sudden?

How many of you actually had a ZvZ as a likely final? It was such a longshot for Elazer to make it, and he barely got there, if Zerg was really this imbalanced wouldn't more people be predicting ZvZ?

If we get a ZvZ final in GSL or 5 Zergs in GSL RO8 I think the whine is warranted, but infestors are already getting nerfed and Zerg didn't actually overperform that much.

Now take a good look at map winrates for GSL vs World.

TvZ => 57.1% (14 W 8 L)

ZvP => 69.2% (9 W 4 L) (6 wins by Serral, 2 Losses from Serral)

PvT => 75% ( 16 W 4 L) - Terrans won ZERO matches vs Protoss.




Zerg was already dominating premier tournaments this year with twice or over twice as many of both finalists and runner ups than both the other races and now we have another zerg finalist and another zerg runner-up.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
August 18 2019 07:26 GMT
#140
On August 18 2019 08:38 Half_Moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
Korean Zergs don't tend to play late game (or not good at), that's part of the reason why European zergs are doing so much better these days.


Why would Korean Zergs ignore an important aspect of their play. It would be like a soccer team that don’t like kicking corners or a basketball team that doesn’t like shooting three pointers.


No idea but to some extenct they do.
It's like the sh play, the european style in late game was a lot about turtling with a lot of static D, sh, viper, infestors and queens but in 2014, very few korean if any did that, soO never did and it's bad because once the late game is reached it was the only way to counter the skytoss. They only played sh in a agressive stance because they were always trying to close the game before the late game or then they were headbutting and losing like this disguting soO vs Zest on alterazim.
Only Life wasn't so stubborn, after some rough defeats, he played this style and proceed to win zvp late game. That was he wasn't only a agressive zerg but a player with a superior approach in comparaison of his peers.
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