EPTAlso I don't think Stats bopping Maru 3-0 like it was nothing an expected result, but then again he's just one person, might have been having an off day.
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terribleplayer1
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Also I don't think Stats bopping Maru 3-0 like it was nothing an expected result, but then again he's just one person, might have been having an off day. | ||
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Danjiapao
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Ryung：IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA Ryung：GG History is always similar. | ||
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Howard_Kao
China261 Posts
On August 18 2019 02:16 Nakajin wrote: Make sense. Also fun fact in the last two expansion there has been a total of 39 premiers tournaments finals with at least 1 foreigner, of these 39, 36 had at least 1 zerg, the exeptions beeing uThermal-Neeb in Shanghai, Neeb-Trap in Kespa Cup and Lilbow-Mana in Poland. Fun fact | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On August 18 2019 06:32 tigon_ridge wrote: High level ZvZ is one of the most entertaining matchups to watch. It's so fast-paced and action-packed, and can be really complex; perhaps not in unit compositions variety, but certainly decision making. ZvZ, regardless of skill level, is the most boring matchup in the game. I won’t be watching the finals lol | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17677 Posts
On August 18 2019 07:45 Danjiapao wrote: I just remembered Ryung：IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA Ryung：GG History is always similar. https://www.twitch.tv/gsl/clip/DaintyPuzzledFiddleheadsPermaSmug?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time wow that's a crazy stat | ||
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Legan
Finland448 Posts
I don't really like this much of balance whine/complaining near new patch. Infested Terran is being addressed. I don't like Neural Parasite as mechanic( Serral vs Trap IEM 2018 ), but too heavy and many changes mid year is bad, because pros focus on current. Especially late game changes will not be tested enough, because it isn't reached too seldom. Still I hope we will see first version of post Blizzcon patch, that includes some kind of Infestor rework, before GSL S3 and WCS Montreal concludes. | ||
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tigon_ridge
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Half_Moon
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Korean Zergs don't tend to play late game (or not good at), that's part of the reason why European zergs are doing so much better these days. Why would Korean Zergs ignore an important aspect of their play. It would be like a soccer team that don’t like kicking corners or a basketball team that doesn’t like shooting three pointers. | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
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MoDiV
United States90 Posts
On August 18 2019 08:41 Brutaxilos wrote: So can we eliminate Region Lock once and for all now? There's hardly any argument left in favor for it. Foreigners have proven once and for all they can reach the same peaks as Koreans and locking out top Koreans hardly does any favors for the Foreign scene anymore. It's seriously a huge disservice that there are so much fewer tournaments that fans of Korean players can watch anymore. one tournament doesnt show that the foreigners are on their level. and it still hurts the foreign scene because all of the Ro-32 and Ro-16 wcs players wont be able to beat the koreans | ||
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FBTsingLoong
China410 Posts
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
On August 18 2019 08:44 MoDiV wrote: one tournament doesnt show that the foreigners are on their level. and it still hurts the foreign scene because all of the Ro-32 and Ro-16 wcs players wont be able to beat the koreans What's the difference for Ro32/Ro16 WCS players losing to Koreans vs losing to Serral/Neeb/Special etc.? | ||
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MoDiV
United States90 Posts
On August 18 2019 08:56 Brutaxilos wrote: What's the difference for Ro32/Ro16 WCS players losing to Koreans vs losing to Serral/Neeb/Special etc.? were talking about the region lock and if the legion lock were to be lifted and the koreans do come over to the wcs tournanments, while yes the top foreigners have shown they can compete against the koreans the foreingers that usually place around the Ro-32 and Ro-16. imo suffer because they get knocked out of the tournaments. | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
On August 18 2019 09:01 MoDiV wrote: were talking about the region lock and if the legion lock were to be lifted and the koreans do come over to the wcs tournanments, while yes the top foreigners have shown they can compete against the koreans the foreingers that usually place around the Ro-32 and Ro-16. imo suffer because they get knocked out of the tournaments. What's wrong with Ro32/Ro16 players getting knocked out of tournaments? Isn't Special/Neeb/Scarlett doing the same thing to Ro32 level Koreans in GSL? | ||
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MoDiV
United States90 Posts
On August 18 2019 09:02 Brutaxilos wrote: What's wrong with Ro32/Ro16 players getting knocked out of tournaments? Isn't Special/Neeb/Scarlett doing the same thing to Ro32 level Koreans in GSL? You make a good point | ||
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col_jung
139 Posts
I've been the biggest GSL fan but it was always a bit sad to see the Koreans secretly look down on the foreigners. Now it's no longer Serral standing out as an anomaly. Other foreigners regularly beat the best Koreans these days, or at least give them a run for their money. TY, Trap, Stats, Classic, soO...legendary Koreans all dead at the hands of foreigners. Some highlights for me: - The moment yesterday when Classic-Special were tied 2-2 where it was so close to being an all-foreigner semi-finals. What?! Imagine 4 foreigners battling it out at the usual playground in the middle of Seoul where the best Koreans have been doing their thing for years. Just amazing. The Koreans can only look on haplessly as the foreigners have taken over their stage. - People getting excited about a Terran almost usurping Serral and that Terran wasn't even Korean (TIME vs Serral at Asus ROG). Against Serral--after TIME's performance at Asus RoG, INno's performance at IEM and TY's performance at HomeStory cup, I'm pretty much over the whole Maru vs Serral hypetrain. - Elazer making it to the tournament as a vote-hoarding laughing stock and putting all his naysayers in their places with some epic performances. He's a nice bloke who's clearly quite skilled and deserves respect. - Neeb smashing Stats, Elazer smashing Dark, TIME smashing soO. Korea's best Ps and Zs taken out by different non-Serral foreigners with ease. My favourite players are still certain Koreans. I'll probably still follow GSL more closely than WCS due to my attachment to the players and regular visits to the GSL studios. But I can't help but feel a renewed zest for the SC scene globally. Things have really come alive this year. I hope Afreeca runs more GSL vs the Worlds in the future, these events are just so amazing. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Sc2's balance this year hasn't been especially bad AND we have a patch coming out in mere days that's addressing the majority of the problems in addiction to buffing Terran for free, how pointless could it be to complain now? Balance had little to do with results in this tournament and I also want to remind you that Serral was the only Zerg winning Premier tournaments when he was invincible last year while Infestors were not even meta. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25694 Posts
On August 18 2019 09:31 Xain0n wrote: This thread is pure madness, the amount of whine and salt reminds me of those of Twitch's chat: korean elitists, Terran suprematists, Protoss haters, ZvZ negationists, people who think Broodlords are too good and that Infestors are as op as they were in 2012...simply pathetic. Sc2's balance this year hasn't been especially bad AND we have a patch coming out in mere days that's addressing the majority of the problems in addiction to buffing Terran for free, how pointless could it be to complain now? Balance had little to do with results in this tournament and I also want to remind you that Serral was the only Zerg winning Premier tournaments when he was invincible last year when Infestors were not even meta. You’re a monster. TIME and Special going 6-0 against soO and Reynor is just them playing the master race well, if they subsequently lose it’s balance though | ||
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Wyrd
United States211 Posts
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