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FlaSh: EG tried to recruit Jaedong-Flash-Bisu-Stork - Page 2

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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 28 2019 10:13 GMT
#21
On July 28 2019 14:56 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how sick would it be if Flash and Jaedong came back to SC2


Flash maybe, considering how well he did in BW during 2017 and that he could have shone in LoTV more than in HoTS. Jaedong did well enough in sc2 and wasn't really the same high caliber player he used to be, afterwards.
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
July 28 2019 11:18 GMT
#22
On July 28 2019 18:48 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2019 09:33 UncleVinny wrote:
Bisu/Stork/Flash/JaeDong is the English equivalent of TBLS...I didn't know that one! Cool trivia, I hadn't heard that story.

What is TBLS


TaekBangLeeSsang, it's a reference to the names of Bisu (Kim Taek Yong), Stork (Song Byung Goo), Flash (Lee Young Ho), and Jaedong (Lee Jae Dong).

Taek references Bisu, Bang references Stork (an alternative pronunciation of Byung I think), and Lee Ssang means "the two Lees," Jaedong and Flash.
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
July 28 2019 13:55 GMT
#23
On July 28 2019 16:15 lestye wrote:
As awesome as that might have been, I think it would have been absolutely terrible for the scene, especially Proleague which was struggling.

Well, with those players plus some esf-players they already had, they could've easily participated in Proleague.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-28 14:03:17
July 28 2019 14:02 GMT
#24
On July 28 2019 19:02 dysenterymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2019 16:54 Pangpootata wrote:
On July 28 2019 16:15 lestye wrote:
As awesome as that might have been, I think it would have been absolutely terrible for the scene, especially Proleague which was struggling.


Only taking away Flash would have been terrible for the Korean scene.

Bisu wasn't good at SC2 and Stork was dismal as well, although not as bad as Bisu.

IIRC didn't Stork make a fair number of Code S RO16's? Definitely not dismal, even if he didn't live up to the hype.

He made 1 GSL Ro16, at a time where the racial distribution in the Ro32 was 14 Protoss 4 Terran 14 Zerg.

Most interesting part of the story here for me is how Flash values the non-Korean tournaments in SC2 very highly.
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Sinistro
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil684 Posts
July 28 2019 14:46 GMT
#25
Solid piece of content, thanks for sharing it mate!
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 28 2019 14:52 GMT
#26
On July 28 2019 23:02 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2019 19:02 dysenterymd wrote:
On July 28 2019 16:54 Pangpootata wrote:
On July 28 2019 16:15 lestye wrote:
As awesome as that might have been, I think it would have been absolutely terrible for the scene, especially Proleague which was struggling.


Only taking away Flash would have been terrible for the Korean scene.

Bisu wasn't good at SC2 and Stork was dismal as well, although not as bad as Bisu.

IIRC didn't Stork make a fair number of Code S RO16's? Definitely not dismal, even if he didn't live up to the hype.

He made 1 GSL Ro16, at a time where the racial distribution in the Ro32 was 14 Protoss 4 Terran 14 Zerg.

Most interesting part of the story here for me is how Flash values the non-Korean tournaments in SC2 very highly.


That's because Flash always had superior understanding

Super noob question: I see korean subtitles, are there english ones as well?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10847 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-28 16:01:56
July 28 2019 15:35 GMT
#27
So cool to hear FlaSh discuss these stories, really enjoyed this, thanks for translating.

EDIT : P.S. Nice sig
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arcane1129
Profile Joined January 2011
United States273 Posts
July 28 2019 16:00 GMT
#28
On July 28 2019 23:52 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2019 23:02 Elentos wrote:
On July 28 2019 19:02 dysenterymd wrote:
On July 28 2019 16:54 Pangpootata wrote:
On July 28 2019 16:15 lestye wrote:
As awesome as that might have been, I think it would have been absolutely terrible for the scene, especially Proleague which was struggling.


Only taking away Flash would have been terrible for the Korean scene.

Bisu wasn't good at SC2 and Stork was dismal as well, although not as bad as Bisu.

IIRC didn't Stork make a fair number of Code S RO16's? Definitely not dismal, even if he didn't live up to the hype.

He made 1 GSL Ro16, at a time where the racial distribution in the Ro32 was 14 Protoss 4 Terran 14 Zerg.

Most interesting part of the story here for me is how Flash values the non-Korean tournaments in SC2 very highly.


That's because Flash always had superior understanding

Super noob question: I see korean subtitles, are there english ones as well?


Hit the CC button on youtube on bottom right
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
July 28 2019 16:59 GMT
#29
Was he watching how FanTaSy playing on GSL? How well he's doing nowadays? I'm surprised that 2nd best terran of late KeSPA era sticking to SC2.
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-28 20:50:19
July 28 2019 20:45 GMT
#30
On July 28 2019 18:48 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2019 09:33 UncleVinny wrote:
Bisu/Stork/Flash/JaeDong is the English equivalent of TBLS...I didn't know that one! Cool trivia, I hadn't heard that story.

What is TBLS

TBLS could be a reference to period of dominance that Bisu, Stork, Jaedong and Flash as a group had during Starcraft:BroodWar between 2007-2012 when they ruled the keSPA rankings, the shorthand of TBLS comes from TaekBangLeeSsang, or 택뱅리쌍 which is a amalgamation of their real native names.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
genghiswolve
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany101 Posts
July 28 2019 21:16 GMT
#31
On July 29 2019 01:59 outscar wrote:
Was he watching how FanTaSy playing on GSL? How well he's doing nowadays? I'm surprised that 2nd best terran of late KeSPA era sticking to SC2.


He's doing pretty damn well, considering he is back from military service for only a year, if even that.

He chose SC2 over BW cause he enjoys it more, although he knows there'd prob be more money in BW, which I find quite admirable.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1986 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-28 22:38:23
July 28 2019 22:36 GMT
#32
nvm
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-29 04:04:06
July 29 2019 04:03 GMT
#33
It would’ve been glorious
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
July 29 2019 06:18 GMT
#34
flash is getting fat..
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12056 Posts
July 29 2019 07:18 GMT
#35
On July 29 2019 01:59 outscar wrote:
Was he watching how FanTaSy playing on GSL? How well he's doing nowadays? I'm surprised that 2nd best terran of late KeSPA era sticking to SC2.


Fantasy finished the KeSPA era ranked the number 1 Terran in ELO as well. I want FanTaSy to be happy but damn I'd love him back in BW
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SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
July 29 2019 10:01 GMT
#36
It's sad knowing starcraft is on the decline in Korea. I was looking at the ASL roster, and it's the same names from a decade ago.. all the 18 year old pro players are now 28 year olds.

There's no new young blood entering the starcraft scene in Korea.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 29 2019 10:13 GMT
#37
On July 29 2019 19:01 SuperFanBoy wrote:
It's sad knowing starcraft is on the decline in Korea. I was looking at the ASL roster, and it's the same names from a decade ago.. all the 18 year old pro players are now 28 year olds.

There's no new young blood entering the starcraft scene in Korea.


This is true for Sc2, if you speak of BW I guess there would be new blood or amateurs trying to break through but the old pros are just way superior; koreans would surely give a better answer to this question, of course.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27368 Posts
July 29 2019 14:10 GMT
#38
On July 29 2019 19:13 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2019 19:01 SuperFanBoy wrote:
It's sad knowing starcraft is on the decline in Korea. I was looking at the ASL roster, and it's the same names from a decade ago.. all the 18 year old pro players are now 28 year olds.

There's no new young blood entering the starcraft scene in Korea.


This is true for Sc2, if you speak of BW I guess there would be new blood or amateurs trying to break through but the old pros are just way superior; koreans would surely give a better answer to this question, of course.

It seems too difficult to bridge the gap between people who were in full time gaming for years, with periods in team houses for those coming after to bridge.

Also as many hypothesised, previous understandings of the period of viability age wise for players to remain at the top seem to be way off, and players can continue way past their early 20s and into their 30s.

I imagine many players historically did drop off in this period either because they got results and money and prestige etc, so their motivation to stick with team house regimes dropped, or they didn’t get results and had bills to pay.

It makes sense that pro gamers can stick a restrictive training regime in their teens when they’re not delaying future careers too much, can earn some money in a hobby, are too young to be really wanting families etc.

Europe at present seems to be the only region that has a decent balance, established long term names still play seriously, but aren’t dominant enough to prevent the next generation giving full time play a proper go in their late teens, and the younger generation (not just Serral and Reynor) have established themselves
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9055 Posts
July 29 2019 15:53 GMT
#39
Transitioning into BW? you mean from BW?
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
July 29 2019 17:23 GMT
#40
On July 28 2019 12:16 ilikeredheads wrote:
lol flash throwing truth bombs left and right

totally. awesome personality
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