|
On July 28 2019 14:56 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:how sick would it be if Flash and Jaedong came back to SC2 
Flash maybe, considering how well he did in BW during 2017 and that he could have shone in LoTV more than in HoTS. Jaedong did well enough in sc2 and wasn't really the same high caliber player he used to be, afterwards.
|
On July 28 2019 18:48 nimdil wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2019 09:33 UncleVinny wrote: Bisu/Stork/Flash/JaeDong is the English equivalent of TBLS...I didn't know that one! Cool trivia, I hadn't heard that story. What is TBLS
TaekBangLeeSsang, it's a reference to the names of Bisu (Kim Taek Yong), Stork (Song Byung Goo), Flash (Lee Young Ho), and Jaedong (Lee Jae Dong).
Taek references Bisu, Bang references Stork (an alternative pronunciation of Byung I think), and Lee Ssang means "the two Lees," Jaedong and Flash.
|
On July 28 2019 16:15 lestye wrote: As awesome as that might have been, I think it would have been absolutely terrible for the scene, especially Proleague which was struggling. Well, with those players plus some esf-players they already had, they could've easily participated in Proleague.
|
On July 28 2019 19:02 dysenterymd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2019 16:54 Pangpootata wrote:On July 28 2019 16:15 lestye wrote: As awesome as that might have been, I think it would have been absolutely terrible for the scene, especially Proleague which was struggling. Only taking away Flash would have been terrible for the Korean scene. Bisu wasn't good at SC2 and Stork was dismal as well, although not as bad as Bisu. IIRC didn't Stork make a fair number of Code S RO16's? Definitely not dismal, even if he didn't live up to the hype. He made 1 GSL Ro16, at a time where the racial distribution in the Ro32 was 14 Protoss 4 Terran 14 Zerg.
Most interesting part of the story here for me is how Flash values the non-Korean tournaments in SC2 very highly.
|
Solid piece of content, thanks for sharing it mate!
|
On July 28 2019 23:02 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2019 19:02 dysenterymd wrote:On July 28 2019 16:54 Pangpootata wrote:On July 28 2019 16:15 lestye wrote: As awesome as that might have been, I think it would have been absolutely terrible for the scene, especially Proleague which was struggling. Only taking away Flash would have been terrible for the Korean scene. Bisu wasn't good at SC2 and Stork was dismal as well, although not as bad as Bisu. IIRC didn't Stork make a fair number of Code S RO16's? Definitely not dismal, even if he didn't live up to the hype. He made 1 GSL Ro16, at a time where the racial distribution in the Ro32 was 14 Protoss 4 Terran 14 Zerg. Most interesting part of the story here for me is how Flash values the non-Korean tournaments in SC2 very highly.
That's because Flash always had superior understanding 
Super noob question: I see korean subtitles, are there english ones as well?
|
So cool to hear FlaSh discuss these stories, really enjoyed this, thanks for translating.
EDIT : P.S. Nice sig
|
On July 28 2019 23:52 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2019 23:02 Elentos wrote:On July 28 2019 19:02 dysenterymd wrote:On July 28 2019 16:54 Pangpootata wrote:On July 28 2019 16:15 lestye wrote: As awesome as that might have been, I think it would have been absolutely terrible for the scene, especially Proleague which was struggling. Only taking away Flash would have been terrible for the Korean scene. Bisu wasn't good at SC2 and Stork was dismal as well, although not as bad as Bisu. IIRC didn't Stork make a fair number of Code S RO16's? Definitely not dismal, even if he didn't live up to the hype. He made 1 GSL Ro16, at a time where the racial distribution in the Ro32 was 14 Protoss 4 Terran 14 Zerg. Most interesting part of the story here for me is how Flash values the non-Korean tournaments in SC2 very highly. That's because Flash always had superior understanding  Super noob question: I see korean subtitles, are there english ones as well?
Hit the CC button on youtube on bottom right
|
Was he watching how FanTaSy playing on GSL? How well he's doing nowadays? I'm surprised that 2nd best terran of late KeSPA era sticking to SC2.
|
On July 28 2019 18:48 nimdil wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2019 09:33 UncleVinny wrote: Bisu/Stork/Flash/JaeDong is the English equivalent of TBLS...I didn't know that one! Cool trivia, I hadn't heard that story. What is TBLS TBLS could be a reference to period of dominance that Bisu, Stork, Jaedong and Flash as a group had during Starcraft:BroodWar between 2007-2012 when they ruled the keSPA rankings, the shorthand of TBLS comes from TaekBangLeeSsang, or 택뱅리쌍 which is a amalgamation of their real native names.
|
On July 29 2019 01:59 outscar wrote: Was he watching how FanTaSy playing on GSL? How well he's doing nowadays? I'm surprised that 2nd best terran of late KeSPA era sticking to SC2.
He's doing pretty damn well, considering he is back from military service for only a year, if even that.
He chose SC2 over BW cause he enjoys it more, although he knows there'd prob be more money in BW, which I find quite admirable.
|
|
It would’ve been glorious
|
|
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On July 29 2019 01:59 outscar wrote: Was he watching how FanTaSy playing on GSL? How well he's doing nowadays? I'm surprised that 2nd best terran of late KeSPA era sticking to SC2.
Fantasy finished the KeSPA era ranked the number 1 Terran in ELO as well. I want FanTaSy to be happy but damn I'd love him back in BW
|
It's sad knowing starcraft is on the decline in Korea. I was looking at the ASL roster, and it's the same names from a decade ago.. all the 18 year old pro players are now 28 year olds.
There's no new young blood entering the starcraft scene in Korea.
|
On July 29 2019 19:01 SuperFanBoy wrote: It's sad knowing starcraft is on the decline in Korea. I was looking at the ASL roster, and it's the same names from a decade ago.. all the 18 year old pro players are now 28 year olds.
There's no new young blood entering the starcraft scene in Korea.
This is true for Sc2, if you speak of BW I guess there would be new blood or amateurs trying to break through but the old pros are just way superior; koreans would surely give a better answer to this question, of course.
|
Northern Ireland23756 Posts
On July 29 2019 19:13 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2019 19:01 SuperFanBoy wrote: It's sad knowing starcraft is on the decline in Korea. I was looking at the ASL roster, and it's the same names from a decade ago.. all the 18 year old pro players are now 28 year olds.
There's no new young blood entering the starcraft scene in Korea. This is true for Sc2, if you speak of BW I guess there would be new blood or amateurs trying to break through but the old pros are just way superior; koreans would surely give a better answer to this question, of course. It seems too difficult to bridge the gap between people who were in full time gaming for years, with periods in team houses for those coming after to bridge.
Also as many hypothesised, previous understandings of the period of viability age wise for players to remain at the top seem to be way off, and players can continue way past their early 20s and into their 30s.
I imagine many players historically did drop off in this period either because they got results and money and prestige etc, so their motivation to stick with team house regimes dropped, or they didn’t get results and had bills to pay.
It makes sense that pro gamers can stick a restrictive training regime in their teens when they’re not delaying future careers too much, can earn some money in a hobby, are too young to be really wanting families etc.
Europe at present seems to be the only region that has a decent balance, established long term names still play seriously, but aren’t dominant enough to prevent the next generation giving full time play a proper go in their late teens, and the younger generation (not just Serral and Reynor) have established themselves
|
Transitioning into BW? you mean from BW?
|
On July 28 2019 12:16 ilikeredheads wrote: lol flash throwing truth bombs left and right totally. awesome personality
|
|
|
|