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Do I Have Your Attention Now? - Trap in the Code S Finals

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Do I Have Your Attention Now? - Trap in the Code S Finals

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June 21st, 2019 06:06 GMT

Do I Have Your Attention Now?
Trap in the Code S Season 2 Finals

by GGemini19

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2019 Global StarCraft II League - Code S Season 2


Underrated.

Of all the words I could use to describe (Wiki)Trap over these last few years, there’s nothing more fitting. Being hard-locked into the Code S Ro16 decider match for the entirety of 2018 and with no Ro8 appearances since 2013, one could see why StarCraft II fans were familiar with him, but still didn't think much of him. Prior to Trap's Season 2 Ro32 match against (Wiki)aLive in 2018, community sentiment seemed to be that it would be a tough match to call. A 700+ MMR difference in skill and a fresh IEM Katowice Ro8 finish prompted a certain commentator to respond, “Is it tho?”

Trap's more recent quarterfinal match against INnoVation was a similar scenario, where the community expected a complete, machine-powered destruction despite the two players being 9-7 in games and 3-2 in matches in 2019, including a match from the previous GSL season (Trap won both matches, by the way).

People seem to either forget (or don’t know) that Trap has won six Olimoleague cups and has earned 2nd place in another six, always showing excellent performances over players like TY, soO, Dark, ByuN, GuMiho, Zest, INnoVation and more. Not only is Olimoleague one of Trap’s playgrounds, he also has wins in KungFu Cups, Onpoong showmatches, and other online tournaments. This isn't a player who's new to highest tier of Korean StarCraft. This isn't a player who can only beat up on Ro32 gatekeepers. Trap is a player that can go toe-to-toe with all the best players that Korea has to offer. Now, in 2019, we’re finally starting to see that skill be unlocked and wielded on the one stage that matters most in the public eye: GSL Code S.

While Trap excelled in online tournaments and was praised by more successful teammates such as Maru and Rogue, there was a factor preventing him from making the deep runs we’ve been seeing so far this year. Much like another previous favorite of mine, (Wiki)HerO, Trap has suffered from a painfully restrictive mental block—something he often stated was what had kept him from breaking into the upper echelon of the GSL. Perhaps it's not a coincidence that I feel a connection with these types of players. I don't know what it feels like to compete in GSL Code S—but I do know what it feels like to outplay my opponent and still lose because of a mental lapse. I’ve felt the nerve wracking pressure of playing in a huge MLG open bracket against someone I know I should beat and lose because I can’t focus on what I’ve spent hours practicing at home. The frustration makes you question reality.

Oh, how I lament, re-watching this poor Protoss soul take a nearly four-minute break to overthink his plan as he went into the final game of his Code S Ro16 decider match last August, only to get proxy-hatched and lose to (Wiki)Leenock because he misjudged the threat and was slightly too greedy with his wall-in. I can only imagine the scene from Spongebob, where inside of Trap’s brain there were a bunch of mini-Traps running around, trying to extinguish a burning practice room as he wrestled with every possible outcome that would prevent him from reaching his first Code S Ro8 in years. Alas, it would not come that day: his shaky mentality got the best of him once again.

When we saw Trap in the GSL for the first time in 2019, it would have been easy to assume that he was doomed to another year of the Ro16 decider-match curse. But he was able to best none other than his own teammate, (Wiki)sOs, to finally break loose from the chains. As much as one would love some incredible, dramatic story of a player beating all odds to break through their obstacles, sometimes it really is as simple as changing one’s attitude. As Trap tells it, stepping back from tunnel-visioning on the game to focusing on having an accompanying positive mentality was the long lost key under the mat. Trap had overcome the mental block.

Ever since that barrier was broken, we’ve seen increasingly impressive play from Trap during the GSL: An impressive and tense victory vs (Wiki)TY in Code S Season 1, first place finishes in both his Ro32 and Ro16 groups this season, another incredibly tight and entertaining 3-2 win vs INnoVation, and an unbelievable comeback against the overwhelming favorite in Classic in the semifinals. His only major misstep was lapsing back into overthinking while playing his teammate Maru in the previous season of Code S. Otherwise, Trap has been on a tear this year in Code S, seemingly getting better with each step. All of this has culminated in the first Code S finals appearance of his career.

"...there were a lot of times when I was hurting inside because [my skill] didn't come out [in tournament games]. But because things are going well lately, I feel a lot better and at ease." said Trap, shortly after securing his grand final spot.

After years of being overshadowed by sOs, Rogue, Maru and his other Jin Air teammates, Trap is the lone Jin Air player who has survived the Ro16 to try and keep the team's championship tradition alive. That tradition now encompasses six consecutive Code S tournaments with a Jin Air representative in the finals. Trap has already defeated the top Terran and top Protoss players in Korea. The top Zerg is all that’s left waiting.

Surprisingly, we haven’t seen too much of Trap’s PvZ leading up to his showdown with (Wiki)Dark. Last year, it was arguably his strongest match-up, and he was second only to (Wiki)Stats in his ability to take control and outlast the endless Zerg swarms preventing him from gathering the Golden Armada. This year, most of the recent PvZs Trap has played are small Bo1 or Bo3 matches from the various online team leagues. It’s hard to get a good read on what his performance will be like and what builds he will prepare. Regardless, Trap is the full package. He can do early all-ins, sharp mid-game timings, or full-on macro games, and look good doing them. The countless hours of VOD and replay review of his games and the personal discussions I’ve had with him makes me confident in making such a claim. Some might see him as a defensive macro player in the line of Stats or Zest in their primes—but in reality, he's a player who can use the entire Protoss arsenal (except for going full Has). He’s not a one-trick, passive, macro pony who will be easily abused by a reckless Zerg. Trap will be looking to pull out all the stops to fit into the glass slipper for this Cinderella story.

Despite all of this, there are still people counting him out. We return to that same word we started with. Underrated. No matter how much Trap proves himself, there are still people who dismiss him as a "Patchtoss" and think he will get dumpstered like Hurricane.

While Dark and Trap haven’t played each other in official matches in quite some time, I still want to point everyone to their fierce, closely-matched match history. There was a point in time when they met in nearly every event they played from 2017 going into 2018, and it was dead even the entire time. Only at the start of this year did Dark take a brief advantage. Nonetheless, he still hasn’t evened up the overall score. Trap and Dark know each other inside and out. They know what has resulted in the wins and losses of the past, and they will each have a plan to tip the scales in their favor again on Saturday.

Trap has slowly been shattering viewer’s expectations and showing he’s not to be underrated any longer. There’s one more hurdle left in his way. Dark will be the final test to see if the community was right in saying that Trap isn’t quite ready for a GSL trophy yet.

Trap has shown the world that he is ready for our recognition. Now let’s pay attention.


Prediction: Trap 4 - 3 Dark

Also Read:
Uncrowned King - Dark in the Code S Finals





Credits and acknowledgements

Writer: GGemini19
Editor: Wax
Images: AfreecaTV
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
June 21 2019 06:05 GMT
#2
Imagine how much more attention Trap will get if he gets 4-0ed.
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1246 Posts
June 21 2019 06:16 GMT
#3
On June 21 2019 15:05 phodacbiet wrote:
Imagine how much more attention Trap will get if he gets 4-0ed.


Any attention is good attention amirite? :^)
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4514 Posts
June 21 2019 06:35 GMT
#4
Remember when Trap got to a kespa cup final with which he received little to no credit for. Neeb remembers.
hi. big fan.
Steelghost1
Profile Joined June 2019
43 Posts
June 21 2019 06:37 GMT
#5
I want Trap to win, but I doubt Dark will let him get to a comfortable spot in any of the games. Let´s hope we get a great GSL finals though!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 21 2019 06:40 GMT
#6
If Trap wins this, the playoffs run was legendary!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33481 Posts
June 21 2019 06:42 GMT
#7
On June 21 2019 15:35 FataLe wrote:
Remember when Trap got to a kespa cup final with which he received little to no credit for. Neeb remembers.


He also won an MLG ^_^
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 21 2019 06:44 GMT
#8
another incredibly tight and entertaining 4-3 win vs INnoVation

4-3 in the Ro8 eh?
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 21 2019 06:45 GMT
#9
6 Olimoleagues and yet 0 WCS titles...
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 21 2019 06:48 GMT
#10
The real question is what is Trap's ladder MMR? After all, it's the best way to evaluate one's skill.
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
June 21 2019 06:50 GMT
#11
If someone told me before this GSL started that the finals would be Dark vs Trap, I would find that crazy but here we are.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-21 07:11:40
June 21 2019 07:10 GMT
#12
On June 21 2019 15:50 Anc13nt wrote:
If someone told me before this GSL started that the finals would be Dark vs Trap, I would find that crazy but here we are.


Same. Dark not falling in the Ro4 is hard to believe. (More seriously it really isn't that crazy given that both of them made the semis in Season 1).

Also I'd feel a lot more confidence in Trap if Afreeca suddenly announced that the GSL finals were going to be a bo11.
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2216 Posts
June 21 2019 07:29 GMT
#13
Great writeup, but I'm rooting for Dark
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 21 2019 08:03 GMT
#14
Since I'm not a fan of either Dark or Trap, I'm rooting for the underdog which is Trap. However I'm expecting a 4-2 or 4-1 for Dark.
Freeborn
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany421 Posts
June 21 2019 08:12 GMT
#15
Good article.

I think trap can do it. Let's see if Dark plays a similar style to the semis.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 21 2019 08:34 GMT
#16
Really well written article.
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ordeal11
Profile Joined August 2018
Czech Republic52 Posts
June 21 2019 08:44 GMT
#17
I can't see Dark slip this one
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
June 21 2019 09:02 GMT
#18
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic
Koivusto
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Finland542 Posts
June 21 2019 09:12 GMT
#19
I'm just really happy that we have PvZ finals coming up and the champion-to-be-crowned will have his first GSL victory. Good times.
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
June 21 2019 09:30 GMT
#20
you have one job Dark
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
June 21 2019 09:50 GMT
#21
On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic

You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over. Trap has definitely proven that he can take games off of players at the absolute highest levels, and while I do expect Dark to take this one, it won't be absolutely shocking if Trap pulls the upset.
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
June 21 2019 09:52 GMT
#22
Traps PvZ has been beast mode before, I trust Trap to take this. Consider that Dark has already showed His ZvP plans thoroughly, that is a real edge for Trap.
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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2753 Posts
June 21 2019 09:56 GMT
#23
On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic

You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over. Trap has definitely proven that he can take games off of players at the absolute highest levels, and while I do expect Dark to take this one, it won't be absolutely shocking if Trap pulls the upset.


No but making him a top tier player because of online wins is ridiculous.
It's not that he is underrated, it's more he hasn't a lot of wins on big stages.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
June 21 2019 10:05 GMT
#24
On June 21 2019 18:56 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic

You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over. Trap has definitely proven that he can take games off of players at the absolute highest levels, and while I do expect Dark to take this one, it won't be absolutely shocking if Trap pulls the upset.


No but making him a top tier player because of online wins is ridiculous.
It's not that he is underrated, it's more he hasn't a lot of wins on big stages.

100% agree, but I think that when he's been posting these kinds of results online for years and we now see it starting to translate over to the big stage, to write him off as having absolutely zero chance is really unfair.
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Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-21 10:36:17
June 21 2019 10:33 GMT
#25
On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic

You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over.


>Prize pool: $250

I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up.

Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-21 10:44:01
June 21 2019 10:43 GMT
#26
On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic

You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over.


>Prize pool: $250

I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up.

Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous


I'd say the chances are about even actually, but still, I don't think Trap is underrated by the majority of the community, not in the same way as Classic was at least.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
June 21 2019 11:04 GMT
#27
I want trap to win just so that people get mad
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 21 2019 11:42 GMT
#28
On June 21 2019 19:43 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic

You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over.


>Prize pool: $250

I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up.

Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous


I'd say the chances are about even actually, but still, I don't think Trap is underrated by the majority of the community, not in the same way as Classic was at least.
.

Slight chanche? Upset? Have you been paying attention to Trap's result in 2019? Dark is probably the favourite but chanches are about even, 4/5 of people predicting Dark to win seems like underrating Trap to me.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-21 11:48:00
June 21 2019 11:46 GMT
#29
On June 21 2019 20:42 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 19:43 stilt wrote:
On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic

You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over.


>Prize pool: $250

I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up.

Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous


I'd say the chances are about even actually, but still, I don't think Trap is underrated by the majority of the community, not in the same way as Classic was at least.
.

Slight chanche? Upset? Have you been paying attention to Trap's result in 2019? Dark is probably the favourite but chanches are about even, 4/5 of people predicting Dark to win seems like underrating Trap to me.


You misquoted.
A majority of ppl thinks it's 50/50 or slightly in favor of Dark.
But a majority of ppl want to see Dark win for quite obvious reason hence the poll, no need to cry about how he is underrated.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 21 2019 11:48 GMT
#30
On June 21 2019 20:46 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 20:42 Xain0n wrote:
On June 21 2019 19:43 stilt wrote:
On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic

You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over.


>Prize pool: $250

I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up.

Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous


I'd say the chances are about even actually, but still, I don't think Trap is underrated by the majority of the community, not in the same way as Classic was at least.
.

Slight chanche? Upset? Have you been paying attention to Trap's result in 2019? Dark is probably the favourite but chanches are about even, 4/5 of people predicting Dark to win seems like underrating Trap to me.


You misquoted.
A majority of ppl thinks it's 50/50 or slightly in favor of Dark.
But a majority of ppl want to see Dark win for quite obvious reason hence the poll, no need to cry about it.


Yes and no, didn't want to quote two consecutive comments in the same conversation. The first half is for Need, the last part is for you(Trap being undervalued in my opinion).
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
June 21 2019 12:05 GMT
#31
Dark has the experience and Trap has the entire JAGW team to back him up. Even if Trap loses the finals, he's still made great progress getting to that point.

Best of luck to both of them, looking forward to an interesting finals.
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BadHabits
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada45 Posts
June 21 2019 12:08 GMT
#32
i dunno i've always thought trap was kind of Meh. 2018 got carried by carrier storm and now with all the protoss buffs.. can just be protoss.. lool.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 21 2019 12:17 GMT
#33
Great preview, you almost made me believe in Trap, but I think the mental block will comeback in the final
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Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
June 21 2019 12:17 GMT
#34
On June 21 2019 20:42 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 19:43 stilt wrote:
On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic

You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over.


>Prize pool: $250

I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up.

Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous


I'd say the chances are about even actually, but still, I don't think Trap is underrated by the majority of the community, not in the same way as Classic was at least.
.

Slight chanche? Upset?


Yes? Check the betting odds on any website. If he has even chances of winning, then congrats for being smarter than the entire betting market. Or if you prefer algorithms over markets, check Aligulac.

Good for you that you believe in Trap, but being shocked someone claims it'd be an upset or he has a slight chance is just being disconnected from reality
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
June 21 2019 12:23 GMT
#35
I didn't realise Trap was underrated. I certainly feel like seeing him advance to high finishes over players I care more about is a familiar feeling. But looking at his results, that was longer ago than it felt.
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
June 21 2019 12:28 GMT
#36
Trap beat Classic so he can beat Dark. Or can he?

Traps ability to keep composure after the failed cannon rush was great. But is he strong enough to beat Dark? I guess Dark wins 4-2.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-21 12:41:25
June 21 2019 12:34 GMT
#37
On June 21 2019 15:06 TL.net ESPORTS wrote:

Trap's more recent quarterfinal match against INnoVation was a similar scenario, where the community expected a complete, machine-powered destruction

I don't know why everyone seemed to favour INno in that match. He'd done nothing all year to suggest his TvP was good enough, and Trap had already beaten him and TY multiple times in GSL.

People were outraged on reddit when INno lost even though Trap should have been the heavy favourite.
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zumpy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States122 Posts
June 21 2019 12:35 GMT
#38
Great article Gemini
I do think this finals is closer than most people think but it would be great to see Dark take it
well won
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 21 2019 12:41 GMT
#39
On June 21 2019 15:42 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 15:35 FataLe wrote:
Remember when Trap got to a kespa cup final with which he received little to no credit for. Neeb remembers.


He also won an MLG ^_^

Polt only needed two games in that finals to win and Trap still 4-0'd him.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19298 Posts
June 21 2019 12:49 GMT
#40
Is Trap really an underdog given the meta? A month ago most people thought Protoss was OP and Zerg had no chance. To be honest I certainly thought Protoss could destroy any Zerg in the GSL until seeing Dark's performance. But still, Trap is an excellent player and can execute Warp Prism death marches very effectively.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-21 12:59:06
June 21 2019 12:57 GMT
#41
On June 21 2019 21:17 Need wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 20:42 Xain0n wrote:
On June 21 2019 19:43 stilt wrote:
On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic

You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over.


>Prize pool: $250

I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up.

Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous


I'd say the chances are about even actually, but still, I don't think Trap is underrated by the majority of the community, not in the same way as Classic was at least.
.

Slight chanche? Upset?


Yes? Check the betting odds on any website. If he has even chances of winning, then congrats for being smarter than the entire betting market. Or if you prefer algorithms over markets, check Aligulac.

Good for you that you believe in Trap, but being shocked someone claims it'd be an upset or he has a slight chance is just being disconnected from reality

I honestly think one would have to be maniac to give 3.75 odds on Trap beating Dark and I gladly took that bet
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freelifeffs
Profile Joined April 2018
97 Posts
June 21 2019 13:00 GMT
#42
hate it when TL curses someone who was already the underdog.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 21 2019 13:06 GMT
#43
On June 21 2019 21:17 Need wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 20:42 Xain0n wrote:
On June 21 2019 19:43 stilt wrote:
On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic

You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over.


>Prize pool: $250

I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up.

Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous


I'd say the chances are about even actually, but still, I don't think Trap is underrated by the majority of the community, not in the same way as Classic was at least.
.

Slight chanche? Upset?


Yes? Check the betting odds on any website. If he has even chances of winning, then congrats for being smarter than the entire betting market. Or if you prefer algorithms over markets, check Aligulac.

Good for you that you believe in Trap, but being shocked someone claims it'd be an upset or he has a slight chance is just being disconnected from reality


You mean the same betting sites giving overwhelming odds against Trap in his match against Classic(that was actually more understandable; probably against Inno as well? At least Liquibet greatly favored him, I don't know what betting site did)? Such odds are simply unfair if you take into consideration Trap's results in 2019, there surely is a logic behind those but I guess it's tied to profit and not to accurate predictions.

Aligulac adjusts itself slowly and Dark is super consistent, it's not like Trap has overperformed Dark in 2019; again, I think Dark is indeed the favourite but not nearly as much as you guys think he is. What is making you perceive Dark has a crushing advantage? Trap's achievements throughout his career? His glaring weakness in PvP(which he recently overcame)? Surely not his results in 2019 or his head to head score against Dark.
Dark, has a kongesque 2-8 record in Premier finals(2-9 if we had Majors), even if Trap doesn't shine with his combined 0-8 in the two bo7 finals he played in his career.

I am not sure the match will turn out to be close, but I am positive it should be perceived as much closer than it is now for good reasons.
IArako
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany195 Posts
June 21 2019 13:20 GMT
#44
Dark wins this, no Kongs this year
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Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-21 13:44:26
June 21 2019 13:44 GMT
#45
Underrated... I don't think so, but overshadowed by so many great protosses... how many finals Trap has in compare with Zest, Classic, MC, Stats, or even herO in the non-korean scene... Trap is just showing the first signs of consistency because by the end of 2018 he was Ro16 player.
I am not his fan but if he deserves it - he can enjoy further success by winning Code S - great for the guy.
But for now... soO broke the curse in Katowice. I hope Dark brakes his in Code S. HF GL
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 21 2019 15:23 GMT
#46
lol i don't think sc2 fans understand the point of hype pieces. this community has a ridiculous and embarrassing obsession with only analyzing players by slavishly adding up championships and babbling about "consistency." there's literally nothing wrong with saying "hey, this B tier player is pretty solid and i think this could be his moment to shine and move up to A tier." it's clear a lot of you don't follow real sports. it's just narrative building. it's for fun. it's not an offense against the galaxybrain power rank in your head

this is what happens when the people who post about a game don't like the game and haven't liked it for years
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
June 21 2019 16:02 GMT
#47
On June 22 2019 00:23 brickrd wrote:
lol i don't think sc2 fans understand the point of hype pieces. this community has a ridiculous and embarrassing obsession with only analyzing players by slavishly adding up championships and babbling about "consistency." there's literally nothing wrong with saying "hey, this B tier player is pretty solid and i think this could be his moment to shine and move up to A tier." it's clear a lot of you don't follow real sports. it's just narrative building. it's for fun. it's not an offense against the galaxybrain power rank in your head

this is what happens when the people who post about a game don't like the game and haven't liked it for years


I don't see how the first part of your argument has anything to do with the last line. Liking a game doesn't always have much to do with how much you enjoy "hype building" pieces. You can love a game like football to bits and still be unhappy with an article hyping ajax up excessively and predicting they will beat spurs. If you post your 'opinion', expect other people to chime in and opine accordingly.

This whole "ridiculous and embarrassing obsession with only analysing players by slavishly adding up championships and babbling about consistency" is seen in literally every fucking sport that exists. Don't try and make it sound like that isn't normal.
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Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
June 21 2019 16:20 GMT
#48
Trap isn't Hurricane, and historically Dark hasn't been able to pull off his highest stakes best-ofs.
I don't see Dark's aggression paying off as well here, Trap 4-2 or 4-3 would be my guess.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
June 21 2019 16:22 GMT
#49
On June 21 2019 17:03 HolydaKing wrote:
Since I'm not a fan of either Dark or Trap, I'm rooting for the underdog which is Trap. However I'm expecting a 4-2 or 4-1 for Dark.

How can you not be a fan of Dark?
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Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1246 Posts
June 21 2019 17:12 GMT
#50
On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic

You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over.


>Prize pool: $250

I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up.

Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous


My point of bringing up those victories is that the players he's been beating in practice and online are the top echelon of players. He's had the ability to beat these players for a long time now, but I keep reading comments where people say he should never be able to beat the likes of INno and Dark etc. when his match history obviously shows he can. He's also beaten these players in earlier rounds of GSL in the past or other offline tournaments, but of course I can only highlight so much in a preview article. I decided to focus on his inability to transfer online/practice form to stage form due to his limiting mental block, which is what the next part of the article focuses on.
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ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States711 Posts
June 21 2019 17:13 GMT
#51
Don't underestimate anyone on Jinair.
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zenDO
Profile Joined March 2019
Spain25 Posts
June 21 2019 17:51 GMT
#52
Rooting for Trap. This is it.
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 21 2019 18:09 GMT
#53
Huh, still a fanboy.

Well hope Dark takes it.
why even
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
June 21 2019 18:22 GMT
#54
Regarding the title of the article, Trap indeed got our attention. I wanted Classic to take it, but not only that Trap won, rather how he won, does put him on the map.

But Dark has the greater story to tell: At dark times, when zerg is less represented than other races, there is still hope for the swarm.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-21 19:05:40
June 21 2019 19:03 GMT
#55
On June 21 2019 22:06 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2019 21:17 Need wrote:
On June 21 2019 20:42 Xain0n wrote:
On June 21 2019 19:43 stilt wrote:
On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:
On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic

You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over.


>Prize pool: $250

I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up.

Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous


I'd say the chances are about even actually, but still, I don't think Trap is underrated by the majority of the community, not in the same way as Classic was at least.
.

Slight chanche? Upset?


Yes? Check the betting odds on any website. If he has even chances of winning, then congrats for being smarter than the entire betting market. Or if you prefer algorithms over markets, check Aligulac.

Good for you that you believe in Trap, but being shocked someone claims it'd be an upset or he has a slight chance is just being disconnected from reality


You mean the same betting sites giving overwhelming odds against Trap in his match against Classic(that was actually more understandable; probably against Inno as well? At least Liquibet greatly favored him, I don't know what betting site did)? Such odds are simply unfair if you take into consideration Trap's results in 2019, there surely is a logic behind those but I guess it's tied to profit and not to accurate predictions.

Aligulac adjusts itself slowly and Dark is super consistent, it's not like Trap has overperformed Dark in 2019; again, I think Dark is indeed the favourite but not nearly as much as you guys think he is. What is making you perceive Dark has a crushing advantage? Trap's achievements throughout his career? His glaring weakness in PvP(which he recently overcame)? Surely not his results in 2019 or his head to head score against Dark.
Dark, has a kongesque 2-8 record in Premier finals(2-9 if we had Majors), even if Trap doesn't shine with his combined 0-8 in the two bo7 finals he played in his career.

I am not sure the match will turn out to be close, but I am positive it should be perceived as much closer than it is now for good reasons.


yeah it's not very hard to "outsmart the betting market." The odds it gave for Innovation and Classic against Trap are almost silly imo.

Edit: Also OP I think was going with his heart when coming up with the scoreline (which is still very possible). Dark is the favourite to win but only by a slight margin. There is the argument that Dark chokes a lot in finals but so does Trap.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
June 21 2019 19:38 GMT
#56
I actually voted for Trap vs. Innovation in Liquibets but this is likely as far as he goes. Dark has about an 80% win% according to my tool. Sorry, Trap. Better luck next time!
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Jimmon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States112 Posts
June 21 2019 19:48 GMT
#57
Trap wins 4-0 ez.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 21 2019 19:49 GMT
#58
gonna need to get up early, else i might miss the whole final
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hiroshOne
Profile Joined October 2015
Poland425 Posts
June 21 2019 19:52 GMT
#59
I really hope that in this final we will not get standard korean PvZ. I don't want to see 2 base immortal timing vs ling flood in bo7. But unfortunaly it will be allin vs allin...
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 21 2019 21:28 GMT
#60
Frankly, i have a meek hope this final will be decent at least mind games wise (expecting dense macro games from current state of PvZ seems naive), but the naive side of me hopes that they will at least give us the kind of macro game both are capable of playing.
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RecklessTempest
Profile Joined July 2018
18 Posts
June 21 2019 21:44 GMT
#61
Nice write up. I think a edge going for Trap is that Dark has shown a ton of hyper aggressive ZvP builds (5 v Hurricane, 3 v herO, 2 v Patience) and having Rogue as a team mate who can emulate them should mean Trap is well prepared to deal with Dark's openings of choice, at least in theory.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10092 Posts
June 21 2019 22:16 GMT
#62
cool write up. gl Trap and Gemini!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
478 Posts
June 21 2019 22:22 GMT
#63
GLGL trap!
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
June 21 2019 23:44 GMT
#64
Just want to say I thought the OP was great and really well written.

As to the finals, I’m seriously unsure. I think if nerves are not an issue Trap is just solidly in better form right now. Darks wins vs P this season are mostly all cheery all ins. It’s hard to do that two matches in a row and hard to get too many games in a series that way. If no one chokes, then Trap wins this 4-1 or 4-2 at the very worst. If trap chokes at any point, then Dark wins that game and all subsequent games. That could be anything from Dark 4-0 to Dark 4-3.

I put my liquibet on Trap with Toss being the tie breaker. But I don’t think I’d put real money on him.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-22 06:32:45
June 22 2019 06:11 GMT
#65
I like the OP, but claiming "He's in GSL finals, see? He's not a patch toss." Is a false premise. Roro and Sniper won GSLs and no one said "See they're not patch Zergs! They won GSL."Thats exactly what patchX players do, they find sucess in a specific game configuration and drop off right after. To prove he is not a patchtoss Trap will have to keep getting these results after the "patch" is over. We will wait and see if he's constant RO4 material or RO16 when we see another patch/meta.
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