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Dark and INnoVation advance, Code S RO8 bracket set - Page 2

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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
June 02 2019 07:53 GMT
#21
Dark and Inno saving the season.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15925 Posts
June 02 2019 08:40 GMT
#22
Surprised people are favoring Dark over herO. herO is his biggest nemesis and the current PvZ meta fits him ideally.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 02 2019 09:34 GMT
#23
On June 02 2019 17:40 Charoisaur wrote:
Surprised people are favoring Dark over herO. herO is his biggest nemesis and the current PvZ meta fits him ideally.

Because Dark has his mission to fail at RO4
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Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
June 02 2019 13:11 GMT
#24
Dark with the never ending groups of death after this round deserves the easier bracket. And i hope he will win it all. He really deserves it being constantly in top 4 every tournament.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
June 02 2019 14:33 GMT
#25
Will Dark finally have the season where he gets to the finals?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
June 02 2019 14:37 GMT
#26
On June 02 2019 23:33 Akio wrote:
Will Dark finally have the season where he gets to the finals?

If he beats herO and then doesn't get to the finals I don't even know what he's doing with himself.

Also fun fact, the last Zerg who won Code S went through INnoVation, herO and PartinG in the playoffs. Maybe Dark can go through herO, PartinG and INnoVation.
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Bombit
Profile Joined February 2016
Belarus20 Posts
June 02 2019 14:59 GMT
#27
INno is The Lost Vikings IRL
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
June 02 2019 16:43 GMT
#28
i dont understand why people are saying dark is basically guaranteed a finals spot

hero and parting both excel in the current pvz meta which focuses on timings, and both have the potential to display the pinnacle of unit control which goes hand in hand with the timings. they are both extremely dangerous opponents for dark imo, as is hurricane, who has recently been making his GSL runs on the back of his PvZ against guys like Rogue and Solar
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NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
June 02 2019 17:36 GMT
#29
my prediction is hero beats dark, parting beats hero and if he is lucky enough there will be protoss waiting for him
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-02 18:15:47
June 02 2019 18:11 GMT
#30
On June 03 2019 01:43 BerserkSword wrote:
i dont understand why people are saying dark is basically guaranteed a finals spot

hero and parting both excel in the current pvz meta which focuses on timings, and both have the potential to display the pinnacle of unit control which goes hand in hand with the timings. they are both extremely dangerous opponents for dark imo, as is hurricane, who has recently been making his GSL runs on the back of his PvZ against guys like Rogue and Solar

It's pretty simple, herO and PartinG have not been on the level of Dark for years. We're not talking about 2017 herO or 2015 PartinG. There's a limit to how far a favourable meta alone can take someone.

That being said I can see Dark losing to herO. PartinG wouldn't beat either of them.
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
June 02 2019 19:02 GMT
#31
This is the part where protoss players come and say ''Only 5/8! Its just 2 more than the other 2 races combined! You whiners were stupid and wrong to think it would be another 7/8!''
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-02 19:17:15
June 02 2019 19:16 GMT
#32
Imagine soO getting out of the upper bracket of death and then lose again in the finals
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
June 02 2019 21:26 GMT
#33
I hope Parting wins and everybody subs to him.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25090 Posts
June 02 2019 21:47 GMT
#34
I want Classic to win due to him having military service due, that aside there’s lots of stories and whatnot that I’d be happy with, Dark or soO getting their hands on a GSL (or indeed a Zerg getting one), Inno getting more fodder for consideration as a potential GOAT years down the line when we can properly look back and consider etc.

Trap I’m rooting hardcore for as he was my tip, and I enjoy being right on the odd occasion I am

I like the way Hurricane carries himself, seems a pretty chill guy and it would rile up the more annoying balance whiners more than any other player winning probably, which I’d also enjoy.

It’s a pretty nice feeling really, nobody I’d actively root against, nobody I’m super invested in so can just chill and sit back and enjoy good games (they better bloody be good games)
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Htime
Profile Joined March 2019
58 Posts
June 02 2019 21:52 GMT
#35
I am disappointed for Classic. He has the #1 seed and a weaker Ro8 field missing so many of his strongest opponents.
+ Show Spoiler +
Maru, TY, Solar, sOs, GuMiho, Stats, Zest, and Dear or Cure could be a plausible Ro8 in an alternate timeline, and PartinG, Hurricane, and herO are all worst by far at PvP thus perfect opponents for Classic in his current form

He somehow gets stuck on the side with soO, Trap, and INnoVation, and Dark gets the three weakest opponents on his side of the bracket.
Just looking at Ali-Predict, even though Classic is favored against every player in the bracket (median outcome) and has a ~2/3 chance of winning the Final should he reach it, his chances of reaching the final are just so much lower than Dark that the smug Zerg is narrowly favored to win it all over Classic 25% > 22%.
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                      Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    
--------------------------------------------------------
Dark 25.42% 20.72% 13.81% 40.05%
Classic 22.03% 11.74% 21.10% 45.12%
INnoVation 13.83% 13.38% 23.40% 49.40%
soO 12.41% 8.99% 23.73% 54.88%
herO 11.20% 17.16% 11.70% 59.95%
Trap 8.80% 8.82% 31.77% 50.60%
Hurricane 4.66% 12.45% 38.99% 43.90%
PartinG 1.65% 6.74% 35.50% 56.10%
Median Outcome Bracket
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     Classic 3 ┐ 
├───── Classic 4 ┐
soO 2 ┘ │
├───── Classic 4 ┐
INnoVation 3 ┐ │ │
├── INnoVation 3 ┘ │
Trap 2 ┘ │
├─ Classic
Hurricane 3 ┐ │
├─── Hurricane 2 ┐ │
PartinG 2 ┘ │ │
├──────── Dark 3 ┘
herO 2 ┐ │
├──────── Dark 4 ┘
Dark 3 ┘

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

I'd love to see soO or INno with an easier path, but Trap likely has to beat the best Terran (Inno), Protoss (Classic), and Zerg (Dark) left in the tourney. Time for a new JAGW legend to be born.

Even with 8/Ro16 and 5/Ro8, the bracket has broken down so unfavorably for Protoss that the odds for a T+Z win are greater than Protoss, 52/48%.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 02 2019 22:02 GMT
#36
On June 03 2019 06:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
I want Classic to win due to him having military service due, that aside there’s lots of stories and whatnot that I’d be happy with, Dark or soO getting their hands on a GSL (or indeed a Zerg getting one), Inno getting more fodder for consideration as a potential GOAT years down the line when we can properly look back and consider etc.

Trap I’m rooting hardcore for as he was my tip, and I enjoy being right on the odd occasion I am

I like the way Hurricane carries himself, seems a pretty chill guy and it would rile up the more annoying balance whiners more than any other player winning probably, which I’d also enjoy.

It’s a pretty nice feeling really, nobody I’d actively root against, nobody I’m super invested in so can just chill and sit back and enjoy good games (they better bloody be good games)


It's the last year for soO and probably herO as well!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-02 22:34:47
June 02 2019 22:13 GMT
#37
On June 03 2019 07:02 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2019 06:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
I want Classic to win due to him having military service due, that aside there’s lots of stories and whatnot that I’d be happy with, Dark or soO getting their hands on a GSL (or indeed a Zerg getting one), Inno getting more fodder for consideration as a potential GOAT years down the line when we can properly look back and consider etc.

Trap I’m rooting hardcore for as he was my tip, and I enjoy being right on the odd occasion I am

I like the way Hurricane carries himself, seems a pretty chill guy and it would rile up the more annoying balance whiners more than any other player winning probably, which I’d also enjoy.

It’s a pretty nice feeling really, nobody I’d actively root against, nobody I’m super invested in so can just chill and sit back and enjoy good games (they better bloody be good games)


It's the last year for soO and probably herO as well!

oof, that hurts

who are we losing next year? and 2021?
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
June 02 2019 22:13 GMT
#38
On June 03 2019 07:02 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2019 06:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
I want Classic to win due to him having military service due, that aside there’s lots of stories and whatnot that I’d be happy with, Dark or soO getting their hands on a GSL (or indeed a Zerg getting one), Inno getting more fodder for consideration as a potential GOAT years down the line when we can properly look back and consider etc.

Trap I’m rooting hardcore for as he was my tip, and I enjoy being right on the odd occasion I am

I like the way Hurricane carries himself, seems a pretty chill guy and it would rile up the more annoying balance whiners more than any other player winning probably, which I’d also enjoy.

It’s a pretty nice feeling really, nobody I’d actively root against, nobody I’m super invested in so can just chill and sit back and enjoy good games (they better bloody be good games)


It's the last year for soO and probably herO as well!


That can't be right, both of them are younger than Classic. Unless they're retiring voluntarily?
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 02 2019 23:05 GMT
#39
On June 03 2019 07:13 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2019 07:02 Xain0n wrote:
On June 03 2019 06:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
I want Classic to win due to him having military service due, that aside there’s lots of stories and whatnot that I’d be happy with, Dark or soO getting their hands on a GSL (or indeed a Zerg getting one), Inno getting more fodder for consideration as a potential GOAT years down the line when we can properly look back and consider etc.

Trap I’m rooting hardcore for as he was my tip, and I enjoy being right on the odd occasion I am

I like the way Hurricane carries himself, seems a pretty chill guy and it would rile up the more annoying balance whiners more than any other player winning probably, which I’d also enjoy.

It’s a pretty nice feeling really, nobody I’d actively root against, nobody I’m super invested in so can just chill and sit back and enjoy good games (they better bloody be good games)


It's the last year for soO and probably herO as well!


That can't be right, both of them are younger than Classic. Unless they're retiring voluntarily?


I am quite sure soO said multiple times during his interviews that 2019 was his last year and iirc he mentioned that as additional source of motivation.

As for herO, it was written he was considering retirement last year but then decided to play for one more year.

I'd be happy to be wrong or they might decide otherwise after all; however, Classic is one year older than both and he is struggling to postpone enlistment, his BlizzCon participation is not confirmed yet and he was denied the possibility of going to Katowice. For the korean progamers born in 1992 this year is most likely the last "safe" one.

Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
June 02 2019 23:42 GMT
#40
On June 03 2019 08:05 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2019 07:13 pvsnp wrote:
On June 03 2019 07:02 Xain0n wrote:
On June 03 2019 06:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
I want Classic to win due to him having military service due, that aside there’s lots of stories and whatnot that I’d be happy with, Dark or soO getting their hands on a GSL (or indeed a Zerg getting one), Inno getting more fodder for consideration as a potential GOAT years down the line when we can properly look back and consider etc.

Trap I’m rooting hardcore for as he was my tip, and I enjoy being right on the odd occasion I am

I like the way Hurricane carries himself, seems a pretty chill guy and it would rile up the more annoying balance whiners more than any other player winning probably, which I’d also enjoy.

It’s a pretty nice feeling really, nobody I’d actively root against, nobody I’m super invested in so can just chill and sit back and enjoy good games (they better bloody be good games)


It's the last year for soO and probably herO as well!


That can't be right, both of them are younger than Classic. Unless they're retiring voluntarily?


I am quite sure soO said multiple times during his interviews that 2019 was his last year and iirc he mentioned that as additional source of motivation.

As for herO, it was written he was considering retirement last year but then decided to play for one more year.

I'd be happy to be wrong or they might decide otherwise after all; however, Classic is one year older than both and he is struggling to postpone enlistment, his BlizzCon participation is not confirmed yet and he was denied the possibility of going to Katowice. For the korean progamers born in 1992 this year is most likely the last "safe" one.


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