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Code S RO16 Preview: GuMiho, PartinG, soO, Dear

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Code S RO16 Preview: GuMiho, PartinG, soO, Dear

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May 24th, 2019 06:20 GMT

Code S RO16 Group B Preview:
GuMiho, PartinG, Dear, soO

by Orlok and Wax

Start time: Saturday, May 25 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Group B sees members of the eSF old guard go up against a pair of former KeSPA "invaders" in a throwback rivalry from Heart of the Swarm. Those factional rifts have long-since healed, but nostalgic fans might still cheer for their old favorites to prove they still have what it takes to hang with the best.

2019 Global StarCraft II League Season 2: Code S


GuMiho and PartinG represent the old guard, or perhaps the very-old-guard considering the pro-player base in Korea. They're the ones who won glory all the way back in Wings of Liberty and have somehow managed to maintain their relevance in 2019. They took wildly divergent paths to get here, however. GuMiho actually peaked in Legacy of the Void, his years of effort finally bearing fruit in the form of a Code S trophy in 2017. Meanwhilst, PartinG faded into StarCraft II obscurity after trying to go pro at other games, only to belatedly return to the game where he was once a star. However, their more recent trajectories have gone opposite ways. GuMiho has failed to turn his Code S triumph into a lasting legacy, while PartinG has slowly been grinding his way up and back into the spotlight. And now, they'll face each other at this perfect midway point: the Code S RO16.

GuMiho might have crushed Stats 3-0 and PartinG 3-1 in the recent Super Tournament, but there are still some nagging doubts around his play. GuMiho followed those wins by losing 1-4 to Classic in the Super Tournament Finals and then lost 0-2 to Trust in the first match of his Code S RO32 group. That four-match sequence in GSL showcased the infuriating nature of his play—absolutely brilliant or falling apart on his feet. Mechanically speaking, he shouldn’t struggle with lesser opponents, but his occasional micro slips could spell disaster in this rematch with PartinG. GuMiho needs to be on his guard for Protoss timing-attacks are still very much a thing, and one ill-timed decision could make this group very hard to advance from.

As for PartinG, he still seems visibly rusty. There's the occasional questionable decision making, and the lapses of macro and micro are all too glaring at times. He's a far cry from his infamous Soul-Train heyday, where his near-perfect execution let him telegraph his strategy and win anyway. It's anyone’s guess as to what kind of form he'll show up to this group in. He's likely to bust out some innovative or well-modified form of Protoss aggression to even the odds, but one has to be skeptical about his success rate against opponents of this caliber. GuMiho, soO and Dear are all much more consistent than Cure or the semi-retired DRG he beat in the previous round.

soO and Dear were both part of the KeSPA vanguard, the elite of the elite who stood tall as elephants in the room while their peers toiled to adapt to StarCraft II. While they rose to prominence a few years later than GuMiho and PartinG, their longevity is also something to take note of. The two have a personal history as well, with Dear being the catalyst for the entire silver SoOfer saga (or Zest, depending on who you ask). Throughout their careers, they’ve both been champions, runner-ups, has-beens, and admirably resilient veterans.

soO might have rode to the IEM Katowice championship on the back of strong ZvP, but that championship didn't dispel his jinx against Dear. soO's loss to Dear in the RO32 reminded us that Dear is personal his personal demon, with a 9-0 match record against him (6-0 excluding BO1's) in offline matches. Add in soO's outbursts of frustration when streaming ZvP ("Protoss does whatever they want and wins!"), and things don't bode well for him. While it's understandable to see soO hit with burnout or the post-championship slump, being able to reset to a healthy mindset might be the key to advancing in this two-Protoss group.

Somehow, Dear slipped into this group as quiet as a mouse. His PvT hype-train was derailed in the previous season when Maru planted Widow Mines on the tracks, but it doesn't take away from Dear's understated consistency in 2019. Dear modestly crushed Creator and soO in the RO32, setting himself up to reach another Code S quarterfinal and his third overall on the year. While Dear may not have massive hype or momentum behind him, he has won or drawn every single PvT match since his loss to Maru, and has the advantage of facing his personal punching bag soO in his initial match. A PvP against PartinG might be tricky, but there's more than a decent chance that he won't have to play him at all.

Predictions

ALL THAT SAID... I’m (which one of us could it be?) bored of making safe and boring predictions that never materialize, so I’m going full YOLO and picking what I WANT to happen. PartinG will conjure up a modified soul train against an unsuspecting GuMiho and crash the round of eight party. soO will reignite his passion-burners for one last time, demolish everyone else, and take second place. GuMiho will play some incredibly entertaining mech games before going out, and Dear will play normal and leave normal.

GuMiho 1 - 2 PartinG
soO 2 - 1 Dear
PartinG 2 - 1 soO
GuMiho 0 - 2 Dear
soO 2 - 1 Dear

PartinG and soO to advance.



Credits and acknowledgements

Writer: Orlok
Editor: Wax
Images: AfreecaTV
Statistics: Aligulac.com
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Snakestyle11
Profile Joined December 2018
191 Posts
May 24 2019 06:22 GMT
#2
I really hope soO can make it out. He is the GSL zerg hope. He is the most consistent zerg of all time in my opinion in Starcraft 2.

Im hoping for soO and Gumiho. I really would love to have some non-protoss matchups in ro4. Some ZvT would be very welcome.

Heart: soO and gumiho

Head: soO and Dear.

( sorrry Parting, hard to cheer for the pioneer of the soul train, as a zerg player myself). fk you no GG.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 24 2019 07:17 GMT
#3
I've joined the Protoss bandwagon now. Looking forward to the 8/8 dream with Dear and Parting.
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pvsnp
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Last Edited: 2019-05-24 07:38:45
May 24 2019 07:38 GMT
#4
On May 24 2019 16:17 pdd wrote:
I've joined the Protoss bandwagon now. Looking forward to the 8/8 dream with Dear and Parting.


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FrostedMiniWheats
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United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-24 07:41:11
May 24 2019 07:40 GMT
#5
This is a bold one, even peak PartinG couldn't beat soO. I remember him and Soulkey used to tag team PartinG like every season of GSL and Gumi just rolled PartinG recently.
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sneakyfox
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Last Edited: 2019-05-24 08:00:40
May 24 2019 08:00 GMT
#6
Yeah, I can't see PartinG getting out of this. His Ro32 group was excruciatingly bad and they should only have been allowed to advance one player. The mistakes he makes in all facets of the game are massive. He can take a few maps when his builds works and he micros well, but come one, he can't take two whole series against these three opponents who are all just on a higher level than him.

As for the other three, it's probably a matter of who meets who. Dear looks like the favourite, but soO can always have a beastly day and crush ZvP. On the other hand, his ZvT is notoriously shaky and GuMiHo is just a Code S stalwart.

I suspect Dear and soO will take it, but Gumi advancing would never be shocking.
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arkpra
Profile Joined July 2018
Poland7 Posts
May 24 2019 08:04 GMT
#7
Gumiho pick Parting in group nomination, i think Gumiho will win vs Parting.
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
May 24 2019 08:13 GMT
#8
Gumi + soO to advance, but Parting is as psycho as sOs and Dear on a good day can beat anyone - so this group is very hard to predict.
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary416 Posts
May 24 2019 08:17 GMT
#9
I am a die hard soO fan but i still think Gumiho and Dear will advance He admitted himself many times, that he got lazy after his IEM win, and it shows. Plus he has 2 of his personal nemesis in this group..
Why so serious?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain16864 Posts
May 24 2019 11:54 GMT
#10
ALL THAT SAID... I’m (which one of us could it be?) bored of making safe and boring predictions that never materialize, so I’m going full YOLO and picking what I WANT to happen. PartinG will conjure up a modified soul train against an unsuspecting GuMiho and crash the round of eight party. soO will reignite his passion-burners for one last time, demolish everyone else, and take second place. GuMiho will play some incredibly entertaining mech games before going out, and Dear will play normal and leave normal.


Wait. Isn't the latest fad of sentry-immortal pushes vs zerg already a modification of the soul train? So I guess parting is going to adapt the current meta adaptation to the soul train?
Orlok
Profile Joined June 2014
Korea (South)227 Posts
May 24 2019 12:12 GMT
#11
On May 24 2019 20:54 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
ALL THAT SAID... I’m (which one of us could it be?) bored of making safe and boring predictions that never materialize, so I’m going full YOLO and picking what I WANT to happen. PartinG will conjure up a modified soul train against an unsuspecting GuMiho and crash the round of eight party. soO will reignite his passion-burners for one last time, demolish everyone else, and take second place. GuMiho will play some incredibly entertaining mech games before going out, and Dear will play normal and leave normal.


Wait. Isn't the latest fad of sentry-immortal pushes vs zerg already a modification of the soul train? So I guess parting is going to adapt the current meta adaptation to the soul train?


He'll modify it to feast on Terran tears instead of Zerg tears now
Writer"Don't leave me hangin!"
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 24 2019 13:25 GMT
#12
+ Show Spoiler +
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
May 24 2019 13:37 GMT
#13
On May 24 2019 16:17 pdd wrote:
I've joined the Protoss bandwagon now. Looking forward to the 8/8 dream with Dear and Parting.

Part of me really does hope that this happens, because man that'd be quite the GSL experience!
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batatm
Profile Joined June 2014
Israel116 Posts
May 24 2019 14:26 GMT
#14
On May 24 2019 22:37 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 16:17 pdd wrote:
I've joined the Protoss bandwagon now. Looking forward to the 8/8 dream with Dear and Parting.

Part of me really does hope that this happens, because man that'd be quite the GSL experience!

lol if this happens i will probably skip the playoffs and only watch the finals.
i can only stomach so many PvP's (or any mirror for that matter) before getting bored.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3960 Posts
May 24 2019 16:41 GMT
#15
On May 24 2019 22:37 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 16:17 pdd wrote:
I've joined the Protoss bandwagon now. Looking forward to the 8/8 dream with Dear and Parting.

Part of me really does hope that this happens, because man that'd be quite the GSL experience!


With Dark, Inno, soO, Gumiho(and Juanito!) still around I'd be surprised to even see a 6/8.
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
May 24 2019 16:49 GMT
#16
parting hasn't been streaming which means he's either fucking off or practicing nonstop for this round.. i'm guessing the latter and will be rooting for him as always. FUCK YOU NO GG
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States370 Posts
May 24 2019 16:58 GMT
#17
This is one of our better chances to break up the 8/8 dream. Parting is probably the weakest toss left in the tourney.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8498 Posts
May 24 2019 17:41 GMT
#18
On May 25 2019 01:41 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 22:37 Frudgey wrote:
On May 24 2019 16:17 pdd wrote:
I've joined the Protoss bandwagon now. Looking forward to the 8/8 dream with Dear and Parting.

Part of me really does hope that this happens, because man that'd be quite the GSL experience!


With Dark, Inno, soO, Gumiho(and Juanito!) still around I'd be surprised to even see a 6/8.


I hope we get 7 toss and Special with him winning the season, then getting eliminated by Goblin in WCS, that would be the dream.
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StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
310 Posts
May 24 2019 18:01 GMT
#19
PartinG winning the group? not gonna happen. Probably Dear or Gumigod.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
793 Posts
May 24 2019 18:24 GMT
#20
My liquibet is Dear and GuMiho, but I can also see Dear and soO advancing. PartinG seems to be the least likely candidate of the four in his current form.
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