On April 08 2019 20:48 swarminfestor wrote: What's wrong with Korean Terran players? Only 2 of them in the ro 16. Even Special also cannot advances. Where are all new bloods?
Maru exists so every other terran player has to suffer.
I shouldn't be the one to tell you Inno won WESG(only Terran can win that tournament, apparently. Will they move the next to the second half of 2020 so that Byun could play it?); if you are right about Terran not being as strong as the other races, it's both Code S format(TY could have easily S3 2018) and Maru being incapable of releasing his full potential in weekenders that are condemning the race. TvZ, in fact, seems fair(if not Terran favored late game) while TvP is a polarized and boring matchup whose win ratios are reasonable at the end of the day.
I still think IEM groupstages were a weird anomaly(the opponents were known in advance, there was time to prepare for each of them), while the last korean qualifiers including this one are showing a worrying Protoss overabundance at the expense of Terran; I mean, I am glad the Bigggg Boy is back but Patience and Hurricane instead of TY and Bunny really hurts.
Judging by the lineup I'd say either Rogue or Stats/Classic/Zest/sOs/herO is gonna win this; if Maru doesn't take home his fourth Code S, I'd be actually pleasantly surprised to see him add a Super Tournament to his record of achievements.
How about we will use WCS as the Terran suffering tournament? We obviously can't have Terrans there...
WESG these top players there. Dark(Z), Serral(Z), Innovation(T) and Maru(T). Serral removed Dark from the equation and from then onwards we had pretty high chances of T winning the whole thing, because Scarlett isn't good enough(which wasn't as much true, but still...) and Serral has weak ZvT against good Koreans.
Using WESG is as stupid as it can get.
Edit> Or how about we use IEM? Except Code S Terrans are not playing especially good in weekenders. And ST just proves the IEM state. Terrans can prepare and show good builds, Terrans can overcome worse players, otherwise it seems they're incapable of qualifying.
Edit 2> Oh, shouldn't just scim through. So IEM was annomaly. And GSL ST is another anomaly? How many more anomalies?
On April 08 2019 20:50 fronkschnonk wrote: It's really disappointing when players who have potential or are coming back often just seem to opt out of competition when it gets serious: Taeja seemingly did not show up vs MC and then vs alive in the LB. TREME, an old face from 2015 also donated def-wins to his opponents. Dandy didn't try either although his opponent impact could've been doable for him. DRG also let his chance of a kind of easy first opponent in Patience slip away.
I mean, yes, there always can happen stuff that hinders you and playing against the best of the best is probably quite intimidating but I see this so often that it is just unlikely that this is not some kind of nerves/anxiety/motivation-problem. It's so sad because I think those players are giving opportunites away and by deciding to rather not participate they're making it even more unlikely that they'll climb to the top, ever. Especially players like Taeja and Dandy who are on a team should have some kind of conscientiousness.
---- This is why I still think we need some kind of Code A in Korea in order to give realistic opportunities to lesser players.
On April 08 2019 20:48 swarminfestor wrote: What's wrong with Korean Terran players? Only 2 of them in the ro 16. Even Special also cannot advances. Where are all new bloods?
Maru exists so every other terran player has to suffer.
I shouldn't be the one to tell you Inno won WESG(only Terran can win that tournament, apparently. Will they move the next to the second half of 2020 so that Byun could play it?); if you are right about Terran not being as strong as the other races, it's both Code S format(TY could have easily S3 2018) and Maru being incapable of releasing his full potential in weekenders that are condemning the race. TvZ, in fact, seems fair(if not Terran favored late game) while TvP is a polarized and boring matchup whose win ratios are reasonable at the end of the day.
I still think IEM groupstages were a weird anomaly(the opponents were known in advance, there was time to prepare for each of them), while the last korean qualifiers including this one are showing a worrying Protoss overabundance at the expense of Terran; I mean, I am glad the Bigggg Boy is back but Patience and Hurricane instead of TY and Bunny really hurts.
Judging by the lineup I'd say either Rogue or Stats/Classic/Zest/sOs/herO is gonna win this; if Maru doesn't take home his fourth Code S, I'd be actually pleasantly surprised to see him add a Super Tournament to his record of achievements.
How about we will use WCS as the Terran suffering tournament? We obviously can't have Terrans there...
WESG these top players there. Dark(Z), Serral(Z), Innovation(T) and Maru(T). Serral removed Dark from the equation and from then onwards we had pretty high chances of T winning the whole thing, because Scarlett isn't good enough(which wasn't as much true, but still...) and Serral has weak ZvT against good Koreans.
Using WESG is as stupid as it can get.
Edit> Or how about we use IEM? Except Code S Terrans are not playing especially good in weekenders. And ST just proves the IEM state. Terrans can prepare and show good builds, Terrans can overcome worse players, otherwise it seems they're incapable of qualifying.
Edit 2> Oh, shouldn't just scim through. So IEM was annomaly. And GSL ST is another anomaly? How many more anomalies?
Unfortunately, your unpleasant approach is not one anomaly; treating likely(?) happenings as they were obvious and granted truly is stupid, definitely not remembering a non Maru Terran won 150k in a Premier tournament few weeks ago.
The idea of Serral having weak ZvT against good koreans is a myth you guys gave birth to; he actually lost quite closely against Inno alone and then got pwnd by Heromarine before totally dismantling him yesterday. You come up with Maru 3-0ing Serral at WESG 2017 but he wasn't yet the top tier player he became afterwards:Serral's ZvT looked very sharp at GSL vs the World;,while ZvT is Serral's weakest matchup overall he wasn't especially weak at the matchup in 2019, he just isn't on god level tier at the moment having lost three series in ZvT, three in ZvZ and one in ZvP already this year.
I'm not sure if you can actually read the entirety of my posts before rushing to answer me with basically memes, but I outright said IEM seems like one anomaly since, despite it's a weekender, Terran did have problems getting through the groups the had weeks to prepare for(the "Terran is weak at the weekenders" theory would have implied eliminations in the playoffs); moreover, I said the qualifiers for both Code S(the main phase told us a different truth, but that's coherent with the idea Terran get better if they have time to prepare) and Super Tournament are indeed showing a disproportionate amount of Protoss qualifying over Terran.
On April 08 2019 20:48 swarminfestor wrote: What's wrong with Korean Terran players? Only 2 of them in the ro 16. Even Special also cannot advances. Where are all new bloods?
Maru exists so every other terran player has to suffer.
I shouldn't be the one to tell you Inno won WESG(only Terran can win that tournament, apparently. Will they move the next to the second half of 2020 so that Byun could play it?); if you are right about Terran not being as strong as the other races, it's both Code S format(TY could have easily S3 2018) and Maru being incapable of releasing his full potential in weekenders that are condemning the race. TvZ, in fact, seems fair(if not Terran favored late game) while TvP is a polarized and boring matchup whose win ratios are reasonable at the end of the day.
I still think IEM groupstages were a weird anomaly(the opponents were known in advance, there was time to prepare for each of them), while the last korean qualifiers including this one are showing a worrying Protoss overabundance at the expense of Terran; I mean, I am glad the Bigggg Boy is back but Patience and Hurricane instead of TY and Bunny really hurts.
Judging by the lineup I'd say either Rogue or Stats/Classic/Zest/sOs/herO is gonna win this; if Maru doesn't take home his fourth Code S, I'd be actually pleasantly surprised to see him add a Super Tournament to his record of achievements.
How about we will use WCS as the Terran suffering tournament? We obviously can't have Terrans there...
WESG these top players there. Dark(Z), Serral(Z), Innovation(T) and Maru(T). Serral removed Dark from the equation and from then onwards we had pretty high chances of T winning the whole thing, because Scarlett isn't good enough(which wasn't as much true, but still...) and Serral has weak ZvT against good Koreans.
Using WESG is as stupid as it can get.
Edit> Or how about we use IEM? Except Code S Terrans are not playing especially good in weekenders. And ST just proves the IEM state. Terrans can prepare and show good builds, Terrans can overcome worse players, otherwise it seems they're incapable of qualifying.
Edit 2> Oh, shouldn't just scim through. So IEM was annomaly. And GSL ST is another anomaly? How many more anomalies?
Unfortunately, your unpleasant approach is not one anomaly; treating likely(?) happenings as they were obvious and granted truly is stupid, definitely not remembering a non Maru Terran won 150k in a Premier tournament few weeks ago.
The idea of Serral having weak ZvT against good koreans is a myth you guys gave birth to; he actually lost quite closely against Inno alone and then got pwnd by Heromarine before totally dismantling him yesterday. You come up with Maru 3-0ing Serral at WESG 2017 but he wasn't yet the top tier player he became afterwards:Serral's ZvT looked very sharp at GSL vs the World;,while ZvT is Serral's weakest matchup overall he wasn't especially weak at the matchup in 2019, he just isn't on god level tier at the moment having lost three series in ZvT, three in ZvZ and one in ZvP already this year.
I'm not sure if you can actually read the entirety of my posts before rushing to answer me with basically memes, but I outright said IEM seems like one anomaly since, despite it's a weekender, Terran did have problems getting through the groups the had weeks to prepare for(the "Terran is weak at the weekenders" theory would have implied eliminations in the playoffs); moreover, I said the qualifiers for both Code S(the main phase told us a different truth, but that's coherent with the idea Terran get better if they have time to prepare) and Super Tournament are indeed showing a disproportionate amount of Protoss qualifying over Terran.
Serral got totally smashed by Inno twice in a row. Then lost to a foreign terran in heromarine. His ZvT is weak, Maru would humiliate him yet again if they meet sometime this year.
Moreover, Serral is a patchzerg. Even TL agrees, there was an article about it last week.
I bet in every TvP that ended 1-2 (either way), the Terran won on New Repugnancy, lost on Port Aleksander and cursed the fact that Kairos Junction wasn't in the map pool.
On April 08 2019 20:48 swarminfestor wrote: What's wrong with Korean Terran players? Only 2 of them in the ro 16. Even Special also cannot advances. Where are all new bloods?
Maru exists so every other terran player has to suffer.
I shouldn't be the one to tell you Inno won WESG(only Terran can win that tournament, apparently. Will they move the next to the second half of 2020 so that Byun could play it?); if you are right about Terran not being as strong as the other races, it's both Code S format(TY could have easily S3 2018) and Maru being incapable of releasing his full potential in weekenders that are condemning the race. TvZ, in fact, seems fair(if not Terran favored late game) while TvP is a polarized and boring matchup whose win ratios are reasonable at the end of the day.
I still think IEM groupstages were a weird anomaly(the opponents were known in advance, there was time to prepare for each of them), while the last korean qualifiers including this one are showing a worrying Protoss overabundance at the expense of Terran; I mean, I am glad the Bigggg Boy is back but Patience and Hurricane instead of TY and Bunny really hurts.
Judging by the lineup I'd say either Rogue or Stats/Classic/Zest/sOs/herO is gonna win this; if Maru doesn't take home his fourth Code S, I'd be actually pleasantly surprised to see him add a Super Tournament to his record of achievements.
How about we will use WCS as the Terran suffering tournament? We obviously can't have Terrans there...
WESG these top players there. Dark(Z), Serral(Z), Innovation(T) and Maru(T). Serral removed Dark from the equation and from then onwards we had pretty high chances of T winning the whole thing, because Scarlett isn't good enough(which wasn't as much true, but still...) and Serral has weak ZvT against good Koreans.
Using WESG is as stupid as it can get.
Edit> Or how about we use IEM? Except Code S Terrans are not playing especially good in weekenders. And ST just proves the IEM state. Terrans can prepare and show good builds, Terrans can overcome worse players, otherwise it seems they're incapable of qualifying.
Edit 2> Oh, shouldn't just scim through. So IEM was annomaly. And GSL ST is another anomaly? How many more anomalies?
Unfortunately, your unpleasant approach is not one anomaly; treating likely(?) happenings as they were obvious and granted truly is stupid, definitely not remembering a non Maru Terran won 150k in a Premier tournament few weeks ago.
The idea of Serral having weak ZvT against good koreans is a myth you guys gave birth to; he actually lost quite closely against Inno alone and then got pwnd by Heromarine before totally dismantling him yesterday. You come up with Maru 3-0ing Serral at WESG 2017 but he wasn't yet the top tier player he became afterwards:Serral's ZvT looked very sharp at GSL vs the World;,while ZvT is Serral's weakest matchup overall he wasn't especially weak at the matchup in 2019, he just isn't on god level tier at the moment having lost three series in ZvT, three in ZvZ and one in ZvP already this year.
I'm not sure if you can actually read the entirety of my posts before rushing to answer me with basically memes, but I outright said IEM seems like one anomaly since, despite it's a weekender, Terran did have problems getting through the groups the had weeks to prepare for(the "Terran is weak at the weekenders" theory would have implied eliminations in the playoffs); moreover, I said the qualifiers for both Code S(the main phase told us a different truth, but that's coherent with the idea Terran get better if they have time to prepare) and Super Tournament are indeed showing a disproportionate amount of Protoss qualifying over Terran.
Serral got totally smashed by Inno twice in a row. Then lost to a foreign terran in heromarine. His ZvT is weak, Maru would humiliate him yet again if they meet sometime this year.
Moreover, Serral is a patchzerg. Even TL agrees, there was an article about it last week.
Which Maru? The one who lost to Meomaika and Leenock while very closely defeating Impact and Scarlett? Think again. The best Maru would crush this Serral, for sure, while Serral vs Maru when both were at their peaks would have really been a dream match(I'm convinced Serral would have taken this but the opposite is just as likely; that match at GSL vs The World was a nice peek, despite having almost nothing at stake).
I said this once and I'll repeat until I can't write anymore, your idea of being smashed is completely wrong:1-2,3-4 to 4-6 overal seem onesided to you? If this didn't make evident to everyone you lack understanding, your next sentence clarifies it once and for all: that article was a humorous one, you know…
I would have liked to discuss the results of Super Tournament's qualifiers but it seems like you guys just cannot avoid to mention Serral(in a derogative way, of course).
On April 08 2019 23:36 Xain0n wrote: Which Maru? The one who lost to Meomaika and Leenock while very closely defeating Impact and Scarlett? Think again. The best Maru would crush this Serral, for sure, while Serral vs Maru when both were at their peaks would have really been a dream match(I'm convinced Serral would have taken this but the opposite is just as likely; that match at GSL vs The World was a nice peek, despite having almost nothing at stake).
Of course peak Serral wouldn't have lost to Maru because Serral fans define any time he loses as not being him at his peak form which therefore means it doesn't count. Serral was 18-0 in maps at WESG against WCS Circuit level competition (Has, Minato, Showtime, Bly, Lambo, Elazer, and Neeb) before facing Maru who was only 18-1 but he allegedly wasn't at his peak.
On April 08 2019 23:36 Xain0n wrote: Which Maru? The one who lost to Meomaika and Leenock while very closely defeating Impact and Scarlett? Think again. The best Maru would crush this Serral, for sure, while Serral vs Maru when both were at their peaks would have really been a dream match(I'm convinced Serral would have taken this but the opposite is just as likely; that match at GSL vs The World was a nice peek, despite having almost nothing at stake).
Of course peak Serral wouldn't have lost to Maru because Serral fans define any time he loses as not being him at his peak form which therefore means it doesn't count. Serral was 18-0 in maps at WESG against WCS Circuit level competition (Has, Minato, Showtime, Bly, Lambo, Elazer, and Neeb) before facing Maru who was only 18-1 but he allegedly wasn't at his peak.
That's not the point. Serral had not won a single international tournament yet when he faced Maru at WESG, not to mention his 0-3 loss was crushing(yea, we can use that term for a sweep even if g1 and partially g3 were well fought) while Dark fared much better against Maru who had to resort to(legit, of course) cheeses to beat him 4-3; not exactly what a peak should look like, he was at 2017 Neeb level:crushing foreigners, not yet capable of beating korean in finals. Maru started to peak at that very tournament instead.
On April 08 2019 20:48 swarminfestor wrote: What's wrong with Korean Terran players? Only 2 of them in the ro 16. Even Special also cannot advances. Where are all new bloods?
Maru exists so every other terran player has to suffer.
I shouldn't be the one to tell you Inno won WESG(only Terran can win that tournament, apparently. Will they move the next to the second half of 2020 so that Byun could play it?); if you are right about Terran not being as strong as the other races, it's both Code S format(TY could have easily S3 2018) and Maru being incapable of releasing his full potential in weekenders that are condemning the race. TvZ, in fact, seems fair(if not Terran favored late game) while TvP is a polarized and boring matchup whose win ratios are reasonable at the end of the day.
I still think IEM groupstages were a weird anomaly(the opponents were known in advance, there was time to prepare for each of them), while the last korean qualifiers including this one are showing a worrying Protoss overabundance at the expense of Terran; I mean, I am glad the Bigggg Boy is back but Patience and Hurricane instead of TY and Bunny really hurts.
Judging by the lineup I'd say either Rogue or Stats/Classic/Zest/sOs/herO is gonna win this; if Maru doesn't take home his fourth Code S, I'd be actually pleasantly surprised to see him add a Super Tournament to his record of achievements.
How about we will use WCS as the Terran suffering tournament? We obviously can't have Terrans there...
WESG these top players there. Dark(Z), Serral(Z), Innovation(T) and Maru(T). Serral removed Dark from the equation and from then onwards we had pretty high chances of T winning the whole thing, because Scarlett isn't good enough(which wasn't as much true, but still...) and Serral has weak ZvT against good Koreans.
Using WESG is as stupid as it can get.
Edit> Or how about we use IEM? Except Code S Terrans are not playing especially good in weekenders. And ST just proves the IEM state. Terrans can prepare and show good builds, Terrans can overcome worse players, otherwise it seems they're incapable of qualifying.
Edit 2> Oh, shouldn't just scim through. So IEM was annomaly. And GSL ST is another anomaly? How many more anomalies?
Unfortunately, your unpleasant approach is not one anomaly; treating likely(?) happenings as they were obvious and granted truly is stupid, definitely not remembering a non Maru Terran won 150k in a Premier tournament few weeks ago.
The idea of Serral having weak ZvT against good koreans is a myth you guys gave birth to; he actually lost quite closely against Inno alone and then got pwnd by Heromarine before totally dismantling him yesterday. You come up with Maru 3-0ing Serral at WESG 2017 but he wasn't yet the top tier player he became afterwards:Serral's ZvT looked very sharp at GSL vs the World;,while ZvT is Serral's weakest matchup overall he wasn't especially weak at the matchup in 2019, he just isn't on god level tier at the moment having lost three series in ZvT, three in ZvZ and one in ZvP already this year.
I'm not sure if you can actually read the entirety of my posts before rushing to answer me with basically memes, but I outright said IEM seems like one anomaly since, despite it's a weekender, Terran did have problems getting through the groups the had weeks to prepare for(the "Terran is weak at the weekenders" theory would have implied eliminations in the playoffs); moreover, I said the qualifiers for both Code S(the main phase told us a different truth, but that's coherent with the idea Terran get better if they have time to prepare) and Super Tournament are indeed showing a disproportionate amount of Protoss qualifying over Terran.
Serral got totally smashed by Inno twice in a row. Then lost to a foreign terran in heromarine. His ZvT is weak, Maru would humiliate him yet again if they meet sometime this year.
Moreover, Serral is a patchzerg. Even TL agrees, there was an article about it last week.
Nice try Rodya, nice bait
Kinda funny how one can make literally ANY thread about Maru and Serral sooner or later.
On April 08 2019 23:36 Xain0n wrote: Which Maru? The one who lost to Meomaika and Leenock while very closely defeating Impact and Scarlett? Think again. The best Maru would crush this Serral, for sure, while Serral vs Maru when both were at their peaks would have really been a dream match(I'm convinced Serral would have taken this but the opposite is just as likely; that match at GSL vs The World was a nice peek, despite having almost nothing at stake).
Of course peak Serral wouldn't have lost to Maru because Serral fans define any time he loses as not being him at his peak form which therefore means it doesn't count. Serral was 18-0 in maps at WESG against WCS Circuit level competition (Has, Minato, Showtime, Bly, Lambo, Elazer, and Neeb) before facing Maru who was only 18-1 but he allegedly wasn't at his peak.
That's not the point. Serral had not won a single international tournament yet when he faced Maru at WESG, not to mention his 0-3 loss was crushing(yea, we can use that term for a sweep even if g1 and partially g3 were well fought) while Dark fared much better against Maru who had to resort to(legit, of course) cheeses to beat him 4-3; not exactly what a peak should look like, he was at 2017 Neeb level:crushing foreigners, not yet capable of beating korean in finals. Maru started to peak at that very tournament instead.
Or maybe it's because he faced Maru there while avoiding him at GSLvTW and Blizzcon, not because he wasn't at his "peak".
2002 SKY OSL It's prophesized, when there's only 2 members of a race in the Ro16, one gets eliminated immediately and the other single handedly carries the race on his [ridiculously manly] shoulders.
On April 08 2019 23:36 Xain0n wrote: Which Maru? The one who lost to Meomaika and Leenock while very closely defeating Impact and Scarlett? Think again. The best Maru would crush this Serral, for sure, while Serral vs Maru when both were at their peaks would have really been a dream match(I'm convinced Serral would have taken this but the opposite is just as likely; that match at GSL vs The World was a nice peek, despite having almost nothing at stake).
Of course peak Serral wouldn't have lost to Maru because Serral fans define any time he loses as not being him at his peak form which therefore means it doesn't count. Serral was 18-0 in maps at WESG against WCS Circuit level competition (Has, Minato, Showtime, Bly, Lambo, Elazer, and Neeb) before facing Maru who was only 18-1 but he allegedly wasn't at his peak.
That's not the point. Serral had not won a single international tournament yet when he faced Maru at WESG, not to mention his 0-3 loss was crushing(yea, we can use that term for a sweep even if g1 and partially g3 were well fought) while Dark fared much better against Maru who had to resort to(legit, of course) cheeses to beat him 4-3; not exactly what a peak should look like, he was at 2017 Neeb level:crushing foreigners, not yet capable of beating korean in finals. Maru started to peak at that very tournament instead.
Or maybe it's because he faced Maru there while avoiding him at GSLvTW and Blizzcon, not because he wasn't at his "peak".
Your opinion entirely, shape fluctuates and players evolve and/or involve; now you are saying Serral at WESG 2017 was as strong as he was after April? His level of play says otherwise, so do his results(he actually started beating koreans in finals instead of losing in the ro4), it's a bold statement to affirm he reached his apex as early as March 2018.
Serral played Maru at GSL vs the World, just not in the main tournament; however, it's not like he actively avoid to face him in the main tournament...Maru just lost before getting to play Serral(the first of many subsequent times).
Serral's ZvZ and ZvP were at their apex at BlizzCon, we simply didn't get to see his ZvT; it appeared to have extremely improved after WESG considering he smashed Inno and beat Maru in the team competition at GSL vs the World.
We will never know who would have won with them being at their best, Maru's TvZ was his best matchup in 2018 but Serral consistently appeared godlike. What I am sure of, however, is that that hypothetical series would have been very different from the one they played at WESG.
On April 08 2019 23:36 Xain0n wrote: Which Maru? The one who lost to Meomaika and Leenock while very closely defeating Impact and Scarlett? Think again. The best Maru would crush this Serral, for sure, while Serral vs Maru when both were at their peaks would have really been a dream match(I'm convinced Serral would have taken this but the opposite is just as likely; that match at GSL vs The World was a nice peek, despite having almost nothing at stake).
Of course peak Serral wouldn't have lost to Maru because Serral fans define any time he loses as not being him at his peak form which therefore means it doesn't count. Serral was 18-0 in maps at WESG against WCS Circuit level competition (Has, Minato, Showtime, Bly, Lambo, Elazer, and Neeb) before facing Maru who was only 18-1 but he allegedly wasn't at his peak.
That's not the point. Serral had not won a single international tournament yet when he faced Maru at WESG, not to mention his 0-3 loss was crushing(yea, we can use that term for a sweep even if g1 and partially g3 were well fought) while Dark fared much better against Maru who had to resort to(legit, of course) cheeses to beat him 4-3; not exactly what a peak should look like, he was at 2017 Neeb level:crushing foreigners, not yet capable of beating korean in finals. Maru started to peak at that very tournament instead.
Or maybe it's because he faced Maru there while avoiding him at GSLvTW and Blizzcon, not because he wasn't at his "peak".
Your opinion entirely, shape fluctuates and players evolve and/or involve; now you are saying Serral at WESG 2017 was as strong as he was after April? His level of play says otherwise, so do his results(he actually started beating koreans in finals instead of losing in the ro4), it's a bold statement to affirm he reached his apex as early as March 2018.
Serral played Maru at GSL vs the World, just not in the main tournament; however, it's not like he actively avoid to face him in the main tournament...Maru just lost before getting to play Serral(the first of many subsequent times).
Serral's ZvZ and ZvP were at their apex at BlizzCon, we simply didn't get to see his ZvT; it appeared to have extremely improved after WESG considering he smashed Inno and beat Maru in the team competition at GSL vs the World.
We will never know who would have won with them being at their best, Maru's TvZ was his best matchup in 2018 but Serral consistently appeared godlike. What I am sure of, however, is that that hypothetical series would have been very different from the one they played at WESG.
Correct, it's my opinion entirely just as it's your opinion entirely that Serral was only at his peak at GSL vs the world and Blizzcon.
EPT
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