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Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-04 07:45:50
March 03 2019 15:23 GMT
#1
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IEM Katowice 2019

One of the longest running curses in StarCraft II was broken in Poland as (Wiki)soO cast off his silver shackles to claim the IEM Katowice championship. soO appeared to be headed to another devastating loss after (Wiki)Stats went up 2-0 in the grand finals, but the ex-Kong rallied back to win four consecutive maps. soO was unable to hold back tears after winning the IEM trophy which gave him the 'major' title that had eluded him for so long.

Stats had looked imperious throughout the tournament, arriving in the finals with a 10-0 match record. soO seemed like he would be an easy eleventh victim, with his Zerg forces breaking helplessly against the 'Shield of Aiur' in the first two games. However, the swarming Zerg style that had seen soO reach ten previous finals began to work in in game three, and the normally steadfast Stats was suddenly overwhelmed by waves of Hydras, Roaches, and Banelings. Down 2-3, Stats pulled out a tricky 2-base all-in to try and even the score, but soO was able to snuff out the attack to end the series 4-2 and win the $150,000 1st place prize.

soO's runner-up curse and 'kong' reputation had been one of the longest running narratives in StarCraft II, with his first finals loss coming in 2013 at the hands of Dear. Four more 2nd place finishes would follow before he finally won KeSPA Cup II in 2015, and then four more losses after that. Fan mythology proved to be a stronger force than historical fact, as the StarCraft community collectively denied the KeSPA Cup victory 'major' status. It was a position that even soO himself bought into as he continued his search for a championship that no one could dispute. That search would take him all the way to BlizzCon 2017 where he suffered his worst heartbreak yet, losing to Rogue on StarCraft II's grandest stage.

A poor 2018 campaign suggested that the BlizzCon loss may have finally broken the unbreakable player, but early signs were positive for soO in 2019. He looked strong in the early rounds of GSL and online competition—but he was still overshadowed by names such as Serral and Maru, heading into IEM Katowice. Any hopes of a title run seemed to die in the group stage where he finished 2-3, but an unlikely four-way tie saw soO squeeze into the playoff bracket.

Though soO entered the playoffs with the worst record among the participants, he took his play to another level after receiving the unexpected second chance. (Wiki)soO's 3-0 sweep against the mercurial Zest was not surprising, but his bloody 3-2 victory over reigning Global Champion (Wiki)Serral instantly restored soO's championship contender status. (Wiki)herO—an underdog punching above his weight—was summarily dispatched in the semis, setting up soO's meeting with Stats in the finals.



With the victory, soO has not only secured $150,000, but a spot at the 2019 WCS Global Finals. A BlizzCon championship won't be necessary to secure soO's place as one of SC2's all-time legends. Yet, it will be intriguing to see if soO can change his reputation from that as StarCraft II's biggest loser to one of its greatest winners.

You can catch up on the games at IEM's official Youtube channel.
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
March 03 2019 15:28 GMT
#2
As the ultimate Maru fanboy and terran supporter I have to say I wouldn't have wanted this tournament to end any other way then it did (some more TvZ would have been great though). So happy for soO, he played well!
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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
March 03 2019 15:31 GMT
#3
Resilience incarnated
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Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
March 03 2019 15:34 GMT
#4
Must watch:

Jihadi_Chant
Profile Joined February 2018
19 Posts
March 03 2019 15:34 GMT
#5
He slayed a serral and he won IEM. Good job.
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1209 Posts
March 03 2019 15:36 GMT
#6
congrats soO!!
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HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy830 Posts
March 03 2019 15:43 GMT
#7
Well deserved
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 03 2019 15:44 GMT
#8
what a fucking inspirational man. ive been watching this man play sc2 for over half a decade, and watched his soul crushing 2017 loss to evil rogue at blizzcon. i thought he was really done after that defeat, as he basically dropped off the face of the earth in 2018 and had basically no results to speak of, and didn't even qualify for blizzcon. i thought it was over for him and he would seek retirement. even then though, i still considered him a champion in my eyes, because he always pushed forward despite all the second place finishes and strove to do his best, which takes a strong will, grit and determination.

to me, this win is more amazing than maru triple GSL first place finishes, and serrals 2018 dominance and becoming first foreigner to win blizzcon and best player in the world
Snarosc
Profile Joined January 2016
France66 Posts
March 03 2019 15:44 GMT
#9
Can we take a moment to appreciate our new Kong Stats, be it in all kinds of tournaments :

2018 GSL S1 : 2nd place
Blizzcon 2018 : 2nd place
GSL vs the World 2018 : 2nd place
IEM Katowice 2019 : 2nd place

Very emotional and well-deserved win for soO, even Smix was barely able to hold out her tears during the interview.
Stats is the best player of LotV.
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
March 03 2019 15:48 GMT
#10
On March 04 2019 00:44 Snarosc wrote:
Can we take a moment to appreciate our new Kong Stats, be it in all kinds of tournaments :

2018 GSL S1 : 2nd place
Blizzcon 2018 : 2nd place
GSL vs the World 2018 : 2nd place
IEM Katowice 2019 : 2nd place

Very emotional and well-deserved win for soO, even Smix was barely able to hold out her tears during the interview.


Also won GSL Super Tournament in the time frame mentioned. The agenda to push for Stats as this new Kong seems a bit artificial. The guys won four premier tournaments.
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
March 03 2019 15:49 GMT
#11
Legend! Congratulations!
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 03 2019 15:51 GMT
#12
In its darkest hour, Korea called upon a champion to step forth and regenerate the glory. All eyes looked to Maru but the Terran did not face up to the task and Korea was left without hope. But from the shadows came the perennial Kong, victim of so many taunts, written off as he who could never take the greatest price. He brought Serral to the brink and pushed him over it using only Honorable Korean Non-Hive ZvZ and showed its superiority in the face of modern European styles. But his biggest task was yet awaiting him in the grand finals, where he conquered the biggest foe of all: the shadow of his own inferiority. As he stood speechless on the podium, overwhelmed with the realization of his most profound desire, a thousand nerds shed tears of joy as soO finally lifted the trophy.

Surely the streets of Korea will be filled with celebration as its champion returns in glory. Many people are already expecting the reunification of the country in a swelling of pride over soO's achievement. And the return of proleague.
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RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
March 03 2019 15:55 GMT
#13
So happy for SoO!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 03 2019 15:57 GMT
#14
An extraordinary feat, the first ever time I watch Korean Starcraft was his second GSL defeat vs Zest, I have watch every single one of his premier final ever since and frankly lost hope before him.

Today was the first of his final that I didn't get to watch live, still only reading TL thread got me crying.
Can't wait to watch it when I come home.
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nostrasbeefs
Profile Joined May 2017
29 Posts
March 03 2019 16:09 GMT
#15
well deserved zerg god.. i was in tears
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 03 2019 16:18 GMT
#16
Let s just remember he started his group 0-3, and the only way to qualify for him was to 2-0 the remaining 2 series and pray for tiebreaker
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tagliatelle
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada69 Posts
March 03 2019 16:19 GMT
#17
This is best news to wake up to! Never really thought soO would do it but he did and I am so happy for him! I remember watching all his GSL finals losses in HotS all those years ago and feeling his pain as nothing seemed to go in his favour. Now, here we are, with soO winning a premier event!!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 03 2019 16:20 GMT
#18
Finally! And incredibly well deserved.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
March 03 2019 16:22 GMT
#19
what a way to break the curse
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Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
March 03 2019 16:26 GMT
#20
The final games were not the most amazing games, but beating the world champion in a few insane ZvZs really showcased how good he is at this game. Well done soO, great fighting spirit, great mechanics, great discipline, great heart and dedication!
LittlePox
Profile Joined August 2016
23 Posts
March 03 2019 16:28 GMT
#21
On March 04 2019 01:18 Geo.Rion wrote:
Let s just remember he started his group 0-3, and the only way to qualify for him was to 2-0 the remaining 2 series and pray for tiebreaker


Not to mention he was repeatedly knocked out in the early regional qualifiers, so he had to attend the local qualifier.
I shed in tears during his interview. Someone got to tell me that is not any shame.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
March 03 2019 16:29 GMT
#22
On March 04 2019 00:44 Snarosc wrote:
Can we take a moment to appreciate our new Kong Stats, be it in all kinds of tournaments :

2018 GSL S1 : 2nd place
Blizzcon 2018 : 2nd place
GSL vs the World 2018 : 2nd place
IEM Katowice 2019 : 2nd place

Very emotional and well-deserved win for soO, even Smix was barely able to hold out her tears during the interview.

Dude wins 2 starleagues and we call him a Kong?
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DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
March 03 2019 16:42 GMT
#23
On March 04 2019 00:51 sneakyfox wrote:
In its darkest hour, Korea called upon a champion to step forth and regenerate the glory. All eyes looked to Maru but the Terran did not face up to the task and Korea was left without hope. But from the shadows came the perennial Kong, victim of so many taunts, written off as he who could never take the greatest price. He brought Serral to the brink and pushed him over it using only Honorable Korean Non-Hive ZvZ and showed its superiority in the face of modern European styles. But his biggest task was yet awaiting him in the grand finals, where he conquered the biggest foe of all: the shadow of his own inferiority. As he stood speechless on the podium, overwhelmed with the realization of his most profound desire, a thousand nerds shed tears of joy as soO finally lifted the trophy.

Surely the streets of Korea will be filled with celebration as its champion returns in glory. Many people are already expecting the reunification of the country in a swelling of pride over soO's achievement. And the return of proleague.


Lol korea darkest hour = 2 non koreans total making it thru open brackets .....for 75% korean field from ro24....all korean ro4. From the looks of things in terms of skill Korea doing just fine.
Uberfather
Profile Joined June 2017
272 Posts
March 03 2019 16:47 GMT
#24
On March 04 2019 01:28 LittlePox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 01:18 Geo.Rion wrote:
Let s just remember he started his group 0-3, and the only way to qualify for him was to 2-0 the remaining 2 series and pray for tiebreaker


Not to mention he was repeatedly knocked out in the early regional qualifiers, so he had to attend the local qualifier.
I shed in tears during his interview. Someone got to tell me that is not any shame.


I just got my eyes a bit wet but no tears.so im the one who should be ashamed. soO is inspirational. His story and how he reacts to it, what he said in post match interview after losing to gumihO and other interviews. Just a great person
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
March 03 2019 17:03 GMT
#25
Such an emotional post match interview with Smix, really touched me! Congrats soO, well-deserved. As he mentioned he said it will probably be one of his last events outside of Korea due to being need to go to Army soon. So thankful he was able to do that in front of a huge crowd <3
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Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
March 03 2019 17:04 GMT
#26
I don't think anything will top this in 2019. One of the most emotional championship wins in StarCraft II I have seen.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
ubikz
Profile Joined March 2015
69 Posts
March 03 2019 17:05 GMT
#27
Most emotional finals ever in my eyes. And Im watching sc2 since day1. The perseverance he has showed through the years is something special.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 03 2019 17:07 GMT
#28
thank fucking god what a legend
evanreyes94
Profile Joined March 2019
Finland42 Posts
March 03 2019 17:09 GMT
#29
On March 04 2019 00:34 Jihadi_Chant wrote:
He slayed a serral and he won IEM. Good job.


Winning IEM is a very very great achievement. I highly respect Soo for his hard work and skill. However, how is beating Serral an achievement? Soo is just stomping another foreigner on a luck streak. People are acting like Serral is the next Stephano.
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
March 03 2019 17:17 GMT
#30
On March 04 2019 02:09 evanreyes94 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 00:34 Jihadi_Chant wrote:
He slayed a serral and he won IEM. Good job.


Winning IEM is a very very great achievement. I highly respect Soo for his hard work and skill. However, how is beating Serral an achievement? Soo is just stomping another foreigner on a luck streak. People are acting like Serral is the next Stephano.



Lol k somebody forgot to take their pills this morning.

It is pretty sick tho that the 2 series serral dropped in iem (soo/inno) were vs 2 players from Korea who didnt even qualify for blizzcon..2 out of ro4 also(add herO). If that doesnt highlight the stupidity of region lock then im actually convinced literally nothing will.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 03 2019 17:21 GMT
#31
I am so so happy for soO, but man its gotta feel hard for Stats to now have lost two iem katowice finals, I know he can bounce back!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 03 2019 17:22 GMT
#32
Congrats! Here's to a great 2019 for soO - NO ONE more deserving of this win than him
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bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary388 Posts
March 03 2019 17:27 GMT
#33
h.ly fuck! yea! gg soo
batatm
Profile Joined June 2014
Israel116 Posts
March 03 2019 17:33 GMT
#34
one type of heroes is those who looks indestructible, unbeatable.
they are like gods, and you find yourself want them to continue pushing forward, a living "one punch man".
maru and serral incredible runs last year felt like that, at least to me.

the opposite type are the human heroes- those who stumble and fall, and get up again and again.
they are fragile, even flawed at times, and in them you can see yourself and your everyday struggles.
unlike the former type, you keep hoping for them to get up and fight because if they succeed, maybe you can too.

i love both types of heroes: the first type leaves me awe inspired.
but the second stirs up my insides, inviting me to join their emotional journey, and shed some tears in the process.
so soO, from the bottom of my heart, thank you!
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
March 03 2019 17:43 GMT
#35
On March 04 2019 02:09 evanreyes94 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 00:34 Jihadi_Chant wrote:
He slayed a serral and he won IEM. Good job.


Winning IEM is a very very great achievement. I highly respect Soo for his hard work and skill. However, how is beating Serral an achievement? Soo is just stomping another foreigner on a luck streak. People are acting like Serral is the next Stephano.


Serral won more than Stephano
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
March 03 2019 17:49 GMT
#36
On March 04 2019 02:43 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 02:09 evanreyes94 wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:34 Jihadi_Chant wrote:
He slayed a serral and he won IEM. Good job.


Winning IEM is a very very great achievement. I highly respect Soo for his hard work and skill. However, how is beating Serral an achievement? Soo is just stomping another foreigner on a luck streak. People are acting like Serral is the next Stephano.


Serral won more than Stephano

Even Neeb has won more than Stephano lol, not to mention Stephano still plays the game.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
March 03 2019 17:50 GMT
#37
On March 04 2019 02:33 batatm wrote:
one type of heroes is those who looks indestructible, unbeatable.
they are like gods, and you find yourself want them to continue pushing forward, a living "one punch man".
maru and serral incredible runs last year felt like that, at least to me.

the opposite type are the human heroes- those who stumble and fall, and get up again and again.
they are fragile, even flawed at times, and in them you can see yourself and your everyday struggles.
unlike the former type, you keep hoping for them to get up and fight because if they succeed, maybe you can too.

i love both types of heroes: the first type leaves me awe inspired.
but the second stirs up my insides, inviting me to join their emotional journey, and shed some tears in the process.
so soO, from the bottom of my heart, thank you!


I've always felt same way. Thank you for putting it into words.
hiroshOne
Profile Joined October 2015
Poland425 Posts
March 03 2019 17:50 GMT
#38
Man...I feel so great for soO. To be honest I didn't believe that he will able to beat Stats, but he did it!!! And with no nydus abuse :-)

That's a beautiful story. IEM always delivers. Very, very happy for soO. He was always one of the greatest Zergs and now at last he gets his award and confirmation. And when i saw his tears I almost cry myself as a baby. Something beautiful. GG soO!!! Great Tournament!
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kaspa84
Profile Joined July 2016
Brazil169 Posts
March 03 2019 17:54 GMT
#39
On March 04 2019 01:42 DomeGetta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 00:51 sneakyfox wrote:
In its darkest hour, Korea called upon a champion to step forth and regenerate the glory. All eyes looked to Maru but the Terran did not face up to the task and Korea was left without hope. But from the shadows came the perennial Kong, victim of so many taunts, written off as he who could never take the greatest price. He brought Serral to the brink and pushed him over it using only Honorable Korean Non-Hive ZvZ and showed its superiority in the face of modern European styles. But his biggest task was yet awaiting him in the grand finals, where he conquered the biggest foe of all: the shadow of his own inferiority. As he stood speechless on the podium, overwhelmed with the realization of his most profound desire, a thousand nerds shed tears of joy as soO finally lifted the trophy.

Surely the streets of Korea will be filled with celebration as its champion returns in glory. Many people are already expecting the reunification of the country in a swelling of pride over soO's achievement. And the return of proleague.


Lol korea darkest hour = 2 non koreans total making it thru open brackets .....for 75% korean field from ro24....all korean ro4. From the looks of things in terms of skill Korea doing just fine.



Yeah, I would love to have some darkest hours like Korean Starcraft.
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States764 Posts
March 03 2019 17:57 GMT
#40
Just watched the vod of the finals. Was there a reason why they kept cutting to the player cam right as the game was ending and they type GG?
Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
March 03 2019 17:58 GMT
#41
Got to admit that my eyes filled with tears today. What an amazing career! What an incredible personality! In the very beginning of the migration of the Kespa teams, soO used to be Ro16 player in Code S, but then in 2013 he reforged his talant. Back then I didn't like him. I was a Soulkey fan (still I am) but soO was just another arrogant zerg who used to give very decisive interviews how he would desroy anyone and I gladly observed how my favorite protosses dealt with him.
But simultaneously soO proved what he was made of. His second final against Zest is one of the best finals in GSL history! I realized that he is different and really hyper talented and balanced macro zerg genius in HotS era. I remember a match in Ro16 against Parting who tried any kind of quick timing attacks and proxy cheeses. soO made him look pathetic! And everything was changed. No matter who is facing - favorites or no favorites, soO always impressed me. And he grew up and started learn from his mistakes. He started smiling more often, no trace of arrogance, then I realized that he was always a cool guy, and those interviews in the past was just a part of Korean funny attitude and dialogues, only showing some fake rivalries, nothing personal, nothing serious, just for the fun and the sport aggression.
And all this long way from unliking him in the deep past from getting so emotional with every his match up until today when I cried after his victory. soO got some incredible ZvZ almost two years ago against Dark (another of my favorites) in Ro16 in GSL Code S, one of the best ZvZ's ever!!! To be honest, soO is probably not the best player right now, but he showed the maximum of his form by beating the best player Serral (being best player doesn't mean that you got to win every time). And have to say that Stats played very poorly after 2:0. Like after 2:0 and the first break he went outside the hall, may be visiting the bathroom and he suddenly changed. soO became the well balanced and defending Stats - they practically exchanged their roles.
Oz; MMA; Rain; sOs; Classic, Soulkey, TY, Dark
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
March 03 2019 17:59 GMT
#42
Fantastic!! Feels so good for soO, what a great player, deserves this trophy so much!!
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
March 03 2019 18:03 GMT
#43
On March 04 2019 02:57 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
Just watched the vod of the finals. Was there a reason why they kept cutting to the player cam right as the game was ending and they type GG?


To show their reactions
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
March 03 2019 18:11 GMT
#44
What a path he had to go through... Stats, herO, Serral, Zest after finishing 2-3 in the group stage.
batatm
Profile Joined June 2014
Israel116 Posts
March 03 2019 18:19 GMT
#45
On March 04 2019 02:50 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 02:33 batatm wrote:
one type of heroes is those who looks indestructible, unbeatable.
they are like gods, and you find yourself want them to continue pushing forward, a living "one punch man".
maru and serral incredible runs last year felt like that, at least to me.

the opposite type are the human heroes- those who stumble and fall, and get up again and again.
they are fragile, even flawed at times, and in them you can see yourself and your everyday struggles.
unlike the former type, you keep hoping for them to get up and fight because if they succeed, maybe you can too.

i love both types of heroes: the first type leaves me awe inspired.
but the second stirs up my insides, inviting me to join their emotional journey, and shed some tears in the process.
so soO, from the bottom of my heart, thank you!


I've always felt same way. Thank you for putting it into words.


my pleasure! it's the most emotional i have ever been over sc2...
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 03 2019 18:20 GMT
#46
On March 04 2019 01:29 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 00:44 Snarosc wrote:
Can we take a moment to appreciate our new Kong Stats, be it in all kinds of tournaments :

2018 GSL S1 : 2nd place
Blizzcon 2018 : 2nd place
GSL vs the World 2018 : 2nd place
IEM Katowice 2019 : 2nd place

Very emotional and well-deserved win for soO, even Smix was barely able to hold out her tears during the interview.

Dude wins 2 starleagues and we call him a Kong?


Yeah, this is like 'group of death' degenerating to mean just 'strongest group'. There's a narrative and someone needs to be beaten into shape to fit it.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
March 03 2019 18:30 GMT
#47
Finally!!!!!
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
March 03 2019 18:34 GMT
#48
Im so happy that he won. He's almost in tears while he's being interviewed
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
March 03 2019 18:49 GMT
#49
anyone have link to soO trophy interview?
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 18:52:20
March 03 2019 18:50 GMT
#50
On March 04 2019 03:49 Riner1212 wrote:
anyone have link to soO trophy interview?


Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain880 Posts
March 03 2019 18:59 GMT
#51
Congrats to soO, noone deserved more this win than him.
With soO and "low-weight underdog" herO back, this year is going to be even better than 2018.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
March 03 2019 18:59 GMT
#52
How many viewers were on Twitch when soO won?
Lanthdoral
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany7 Posts
March 03 2019 19:02 GMT
#53
On March 04 2019 03:59 Need wrote:
How many viewers were on Twitch when soO won?


around 40k
DreamlnCode
Profile Joined December 2018
United Kingdom77 Posts
March 03 2019 19:03 GMT
#54
soO deserved the win and it's nice for the community to be talking about other players again for a change. The past few months have felt like a loop.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 03 2019 19:07 GMT
#55
On March 04 2019 04:02 Lanthdoral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 03:59 Need wrote:
How many viewers were on Twitch when soO won?


around 40k

Sadly a lot of viewers left after Serral lost, that ZvZ had well over 50k concurrent viewers
Mine gas, build tanks.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
March 03 2019 19:09 GMT
#56
On March 04 2019 04:02 Lanthdoral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 03:59 Need wrote:
How many viewers were on Twitch when soO won?


around 40k

Apparently there were also about 10k viewers on youtube.
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain880 Posts
March 03 2019 19:12 GMT
#57
On March 04 2019 04:09 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 04:02 Lanthdoral wrote:
On March 04 2019 03:59 Need wrote:
How many viewers were on Twitch when soO won?


around 40k

Apparently there were also about 10k viewers on youtube.

40k was the english stream only.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
March 03 2019 19:14 GMT
#58
Finally!
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
March 03 2019 19:14 GMT
#59
On March 04 2019 04:07 Akio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 04:02 Lanthdoral wrote:
On March 04 2019 03:59 Need wrote:
How many viewers were on Twitch when soO won?


around 40k

Sadly a lot of viewers left after Serral lost, that ZvZ had well over 50k concurrent viewers


Serral vs soO was at a much better time to be honest
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 03 2019 19:16 GMT
#60
On March 04 2019 03:20 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 01:29 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:44 Snarosc wrote:
Can we take a moment to appreciate our new Kong Stats, be it in all kinds of tournaments :

2018 GSL S1 : 2nd place
Blizzcon 2018 : 2nd place
GSL vs the World 2018 : 2nd place
IEM Katowice 2019 : 2nd place

Very emotional and well-deserved win for soO, even Smix was barely able to hold out her tears during the interview.

Dude wins 2 starleagues and we call him a Kong?


Yeah, this is like 'group of death' degenerating to mean just 'strongest group'. There's a narrative and someone needs to be beaten into shape to fit it.


Well, that single victory was drowning in a sea of heartbreaking defeats.
After IEM he is no more a Kong, just as Stats definitely does not belong to the line.
midhigh
Profile Joined July 2018
49 Posts
March 03 2019 19:19 GMT
#61
As much as I loved the whole tournament, in the end i missed Artosis and Tasteless cast in the final, especially with the outcome. They casted soO much loosing final. Does anyone know, why they stayed away?
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 03 2019 19:22 GMT
#62
On March 04 2019 04:19 midhigh wrote:
As much as I loved the whole tournament, in the end i missed Artosis and Tasteless cast in the final, especially with the outcome. They casted soO much loosing final. Does anyone know, why they stayed away?


Thankfully they stayed away...if you want to talk about travesties, the timing of Blizconn made them miss a BW finals of Flash vs. Effort. I almost would rather have not even had them at Blizzcon if it meant they got to cast that.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2629 Posts
March 03 2019 19:27 GMT
#63
On March 04 2019 04:19 midhigh wrote:
As much as I loved the whole tournament, in the end i missed Artosis and Tasteless cast in the final, especially with the outcome. They casted soO much loosing final. Does anyone know, why they stayed away?

Maybe its Tastosis that's cursing soO to get second places.
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7297 Posts
March 03 2019 19:35 GMT
#64
Silver and gold
Silver and gold
I'd rather have soO win than silver and gold
No fame or fortune
Nor riches untold
I'd rather have soO win than silver and gold

Don't give me a mansion
On top of the hill
Don't give me the world
With a shallow thrill
Don't just give me a sAviOr
My life soO can hold
I'd rather have soO than silver and gold
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3380 Posts
March 03 2019 19:37 GMT
#65
On March 04 2019 04:27 Brutaxilos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 04:19 midhigh wrote:
As much as I loved the whole tournament, in the end i missed Artosis and Tasteless cast in the final, especially with the outcome. They casted soO much loosing final. Does anyone know, why they stayed away?

Maybe its Tastosis that's cursing soO to get second places.

moonglade and valdez casted the Kespa Cup with SoO winning, you might be onto something.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 19:44:30
March 03 2019 19:40 GMT
#66
As a human, I cried when soO cried
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 19:46:02
March 03 2019 19:44 GMT
#67
soO broke the curse in the most unlikely situation. Squeezed by Group Stage with 2-3 record and 0-2 down vs Stats. I really thought the curse was too strong and soO would lose 2-4 again.

Feel bad for Stats but I'm sure he is fine. Still the most consistent Protoss in the past several years and a force to be reckon with.

Also, Stats will never be Kong. He is GSL, SSL and Super Tournament champion. You gotta lose some when you make to many finals.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 19:48:02
March 03 2019 19:46 GMT
#68
On March 04 2019 04:40 Argonauta wrote:
As a human, I cried when soO cried

me too, it was such an emotional moment. I'll be honest I was not a fan of soO back in in 2013-2015 but just seeing the sheer perseverance to keep coming back over and over again I don't know how anyone could feel nothing or be disappointed the he has finally done it
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
March 03 2019 19:55 GMT
#69
finally soO get his well deserved major tournament!
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 03 2019 19:56 GMT
#70
i got drunk and slept through the whole thing. gonna watch it now but please tell me that soo didnt abuse nydus to win.
TL+ Member
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
March 03 2019 19:57 GMT
#71
Soo is an inspirational player and person. The definition of grit and perseverance. Well done!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 03 2019 19:59 GMT
#72
What a tournament. Serral's series and tournament streak ends and soO finally wins again.

Now if soO can banish his greatest demon of all this will truly be a crazy year already. Win the GSL
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
March 03 2019 20:02 GMT
#73
tuned in for the rerun, it's going to be onions all over again I bet
I Protoss winner, could it be?
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 03 2019 20:03 GMT
#74
On March 04 2019 05:02 Penev wrote:
tuned in for the rerun, it's going to be onions all over again I bet


i think ESL will post the whole stream on youtube soon, if it's not there already
TL+ Member
Turb0Sw4g
Profile Joined August 2015
74 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 20:06:03
March 03 2019 20:04 GMT
#75
I just have one thing to say:

OH

F*CK

YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




So f*cking ace that he finally won a championship!!



Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 20:09:10
March 03 2019 20:04 GMT
#76
On March 04 2019 05:03 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 05:02 Penev wrote:
tuned in for the rerun, it's going to be onions all over again I bet


i think ESL will post the whole stream on youtube soon, if it's not there already

to face onions for the third time in a row?

oh god

(I already saw it live but thanks anyway)
I Protoss winner, could it be?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 03 2019 20:05 GMT
#77
All's well that ends well. Years of Kong washed away by this single glorious redemption.

soO's story is now the happiest of all.
Denominator of the Universe
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CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
March 03 2019 20:15 GMT
#78
Great job soO, that was awesome. Much deserved!
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Spirit_HUN
Profile Joined March 2018
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 20:23:03
March 03 2019 20:22 GMT
#79
Kind of dissapointing games in the finals.
6 out of 6 games Stats went for the same allin with little variations. He's micro wasn't good either in some key moments. He got soO in the first two games but thats it, after that the build was pretty much figured out.

SoO played pretty well, but the games he played against Serral were miles better. Yeah, but that has to do something with the current state of the PvZ match up.

Overall after the games he played against Serral he deserved this win more than anyone else.
bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 20:25:35
March 03 2019 20:25 GMT
#80
On March 04 2019 00:28 Shuffleblade wrote:
As the ultimate Maru fanboy and terran supporter I have to say I wouldn't have wanted this tournament to end any other way then it did (some more TvZ would have been great though). So happy for soO, he played well!


Same here bro I really happy for him !

GG SoO
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
March 03 2019 20:27 GMT
#81
You know most of the time life isn't fair. Most of the time you'll just get beaten up over and over again, expected to take it because well... that's what you do. Most of the time you must live like Sisyphus, everyday rolling that boulder up the hill only for it to come crashing back down again.

But sometimes, in rare instances, by some random happenstance, life transcends that. Sometimes it all just clicks together and works. Sometimes, the boulder stays up at the top of the hill, if only for a day. That's when it was all worth it.

soO's achievement here transcends Esports. It strikes a chord with every person that has had to suffer and persevere to succeed in the hopes that they can finally push the boulder up for good. soO kept pushing that boulder despite everything that was stacked against him and for today at least he stands atop that hill, able to rest.

Truly the most engaging player story in Starcraft 2's history.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 03 2019 20:28 GMT
#82
On March 04 2019 04:16 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 03:20 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 04 2019 01:29 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:44 Snarosc wrote:
Can we take a moment to appreciate our new Kong Stats, be it in all kinds of tournaments :

2018 GSL S1 : 2nd place
Blizzcon 2018 : 2nd place
GSL vs the World 2018 : 2nd place
IEM Katowice 2019 : 2nd place

Very emotional and well-deserved win for soO, even Smix was barely able to hold out her tears during the interview.

Dude wins 2 starleagues and we call him a Kong?


Yeah, this is like 'group of death' degenerating to mean just 'strongest group'. There's a narrative and someone needs to be beaten into shape to fit it.


Well, that single victory was drowning in a sea of heartbreaking defeats.
After IEM he is no more a Kong, just as Stats definitely does not belong to the line.


Yeah, I meant Stats.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
March 03 2019 20:36 GMT
#83
Interview after the match has to be one of the greatest moments in Starcraft history if you have been following this game from the beginning of SC2. First we got Serral winning at Blizzcon and now this. We are spoiled.
LOcDowN
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1015 Posts
March 03 2019 20:43 GMT
#84
On March 04 2019 00:34 Doko wrote:
Must watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JLkc4JN2VQ


Amazin brother, go soO go!
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States677 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 20:46:50
March 03 2019 20:46 GMT
#85
I literally cried lol
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
March 03 2019 20:50 GMT
#86
On March 04 2019 05:36 RaFox17 wrote:
Interview after the match has to be one of the greatest moments in Starcraft history if you have been following this game from the beginning of SC2. First we got Serral winning at Blizzcon and now this. We are spoiled.

I totally agree. I don't remember when was the last time I reacted so emotionally during the aftergame interview. I will remember this moment as one of the biggest highlights of the whole Starcraft legacy.
sOs TY PartinG
LUK_21
Profile Joined July 2018
8 Posts
March 03 2019 21:06 GMT
#87
congratz soO, I ve always been a fan of your playstyle
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 21:19:37
March 03 2019 21:17 GMT
#88
Heck yea!!! So happy for soO

I remember watching the start of his group before leaving for work and assumed he was eliminated... What a turnaround to win the whole thing.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 03 2019 21:32 GMT
#89
good read too: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/527370-soo-my-life-as-sisyphus
maru lover forever
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 03 2019 21:37 GMT
#90
On March 04 2019 02:58 Veluvian wrote:
Got to admit that my eyes filled with tears today. What an amazing career! What an incredible personality! In the very beginning of the migration of the Kespa teams, soO used to be Ro16 player in Code S, but then in 2013 he reforged his talant. Back then I didn't like him. I was a Soulkey fan (still I am) but soO was just another arrogant zerg who used to give very decisive interviews how he would desroy anyone and I gladly observed how my favorite protosses dealt with him.
But simultaneously soO proved what he was made of. His second final against Zest is one of the best finals in GSL history! I realized that he is different and really hyper talented and balanced macro zerg genius in HotS era. I remember a match in Ro16 against Parting who tried any kind of quick timing attacks and proxy cheeses. soO made him look pathetic! And everything was changed. No matter who is facing - favorites or no favorites, soO always impressed me. And he grew up and started learn from his mistakes. He started smiling more often, no trace of arrogance, then I realized that he was always a cool guy, and those interviews in the past was just a part of Korean funny attitude and dialogues, only showing some fake rivalries, nothing personal, nothing serious, just for the fun and the sport aggression.
And all this long way from unliking him in the deep past from getting so emotional with every his match up until today when I cried after his victory. soO got some incredible ZvZ almost two years ago against Dark (another of my favorites) in Ro16 in GSL Code S, one of the best ZvZ's ever!!! To be honest, soO is probably not the best player right now, but he showed the maximum of his form by beating the best player Serral (being best player doesn't mean that you got to win every time). And have to say that Stats played very poorly after 2:0. Like after 2:0 and the first break he went outside the hall, may be visiting the bathroom and he suddenly changed. soO became the well balanced and defending Stats - they practically exchanged their roles.


OMG i think i know exactly which match against parting you were talking about. i had always thought parting and his soul train were super overrated and i was cheering against him, and then in comes soo and he smashes him so hard. i hadn't even heard of him before then, so to me that was his debut. and i remember thinking, HA i knew parting was overrated he lost to some random faceless korean zerg! who knew this random faceless korean zerg would make me cry today
veniss
Profile Joined August 2018
75 Posts
March 03 2019 21:43 GMT
#91
I cried watching the VOD. Bravo soO!
ZergX
Profile Joined October 2010
France436 Posts
March 03 2019 21:45 GMT
#92
On March 04 2019 01:22 Waxangel wrote:
what a way to break the curse


hell yeah ! +1
Nestea fightingg ! DRG fightingggg !! Sen fightinggg ! July fighting ! SoO fighting !
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
March 03 2019 21:49 GMT
#93
SC2 history has surely been made.
Congratulations soO!
Words cannot express how pumped I feel for you.
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
March 03 2019 21:52 GMT
#94
so fucking happy for soO. feels weird because I feel like I already saw him as a champion
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4009 Posts
March 03 2019 21:52 GMT
#95
No better way to end this tourney which was quite questionable though its run. God bless soO.
Drone is a way of living
litLikeBic
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada105 Posts
March 03 2019 21:55 GMT
#96
stats is the new kong
BanaNami
Profile Joined March 2019
1 Post
March 03 2019 22:00 GMT
#97
I think stats may feel a little bad for coming on second place again, but being the way that he is and being one of the nicest players I've seen. He really didn't look devastated or frustrated.

He didn't look deep in thought either. It's like he's genuinely happier that one of his friends finally broke the curse than sad that he lost.
col_jung
Profile Joined October 2017
139 Posts
March 03 2019 22:02 GMT
#98
Won't lie, I got teary. I haven't felt this way since Byun won the GSL. What a story. Those emotions at the end...he got emotional, Smix got emotional, the Twitch chat became emotional. His emotional speech about rallying up the last bits of his being when down 0-2... just WOW. The man slayed a monster in Serral and then made an epic comeback at a moment he usually falters without hope.

What a beautiful story!!!!!!
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
937 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 22:10:10
March 03 2019 22:09 GMT
#99
On March 04 2019 06:55 litLikeBic wrote:
stats is the new kong

Doesn't feel like that, he takes losses normally.

He already won a bunch of times.

Btw incredible day for both SCs.

The BW one was awesome.
:3
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
March 03 2019 22:19 GMT
#100
fuck yes, soO!!!!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
March 03 2019 22:41 GMT
#101
I'm so glad that soO finally got that premier tier championship that he has been wanting for so long. And not just him. His fans waited FOREVER for this moment. So many tears were shed today. And for all the right reasons too.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
March 03 2019 22:53 GMT
#102
This kind of shit happens only in the movies. Similar storyline is extremly rare in any sports. beautiful moment.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
March 03 2019 23:02 GMT
#103
Did he really won 150k? Omg, double the happiness. SoO <3
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 03 2019 23:50 GMT
#104
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 03 2019 23:53 GMT
#105
On March 04 2019 08:50 pvsnp wrote:
https://twitter.com/psi_Ragnarok/status/1102342895724609542

oh my god maru is precious
maru lover forever
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
March 04 2019 00:29 GMT
#106
First Serral and now soO, it's like StarCraft 2 is having the best time ever.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
agripsss
Profile Joined June 2018
37 Posts
March 04 2019 00:50 GMT
#107
like so many i have waited many years for this moment. GG
agsub
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore368 Posts
March 04 2019 00:53 GMT
#108
Congrats soO, you deserved it =)
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 04 2019 01:18 GMT
#109
On March 04 2019 01:42 DomeGetta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 00:51 sneakyfox wrote:
In its darkest hour, Korea called upon a champion to step forth and regenerate the glory. All eyes looked to Maru but the Terran did not face up to the task and Korea was left without hope. But from the shadows came the perennial Kong, victim of so many taunts, written off as he who could never take the greatest price. He brought Serral to the brink and pushed him over it using only Honorable Korean Non-Hive ZvZ and showed its superiority in the face of modern European styles. But his biggest task was yet awaiting him in the grand finals, where he conquered the biggest foe of all: the shadow of his own inferiority. As he stood speechless on the podium, overwhelmed with the realization of his most profound desire, a thousand nerds shed tears of joy as soO finally lifted the trophy.

Surely the streets of Korea will be filled with celebration as its champion returns in glory. Many people are already expecting the reunification of the country in a swelling of pride over soO's achievement. And the return of proleague.


Lol korea darkest hour = 2 non koreans total making it thru open brackets .....for 75% korean field from ro24....all korean ro4. From the looks of things in terms of skill Korea doing just fine.


It's a reference to the GSL hype video: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/377536376?t=02h53m55s
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
March 04 2019 01:37 GMT
#110
soO's zvz games with serral are insanely great, I think the third game could definitely be one of the best game of 2019.
"You don't need a gsl champion, you don't need a esl champion. I feel like I'm just a normal man. I just practice very hard this time, like 15hrs everyday" Oliveira 2023
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
March 04 2019 04:14 GMT
#111
This is worth a documentary tbh.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
March 04 2019 04:17 GMT
#112
On March 04 2019 13:14 digmouse wrote:
This is worth a documentary tbh.



I hope that TheScore does a "Story of soO" piece as they do fantastic work
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
March 04 2019 04:18 GMT
#113
On March 04 2019 10:18 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 01:42 DomeGetta wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:51 sneakyfox wrote:
In its darkest hour, Korea called upon a champion to step forth and regenerate the glory. All eyes looked to Maru but the Terran did not face up to the task and Korea was left without hope. But from the shadows came the perennial Kong, victim of so many taunts, written off as he who could never take the greatest price. He brought Serral to the brink and pushed him over it using only Honorable Korean Non-Hive ZvZ and showed its superiority in the face of modern European styles. But his biggest task was yet awaiting him in the grand finals, where he conquered the biggest foe of all: the shadow of his own inferiority. As he stood speechless on the podium, overwhelmed with the realization of his most profound desire, a thousand nerds shed tears of joy as soO finally lifted the trophy.

Surely the streets of Korea will be filled with celebration as its champion returns in glory. Many people are already expecting the reunification of the country in a swelling of pride over soO's achievement. And the return of proleague.


Lol korea darkest hour = 2 non koreans total making it thru open brackets .....for 75% korean field from ro24....all korean ro4. From the looks of things in terms of skill Korea doing just fine.


It's a reference to the GSL hype video: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/377536376?t=02h53m55s



Haha yah i kno i saw it. Was just commenting on the irony
`dunedain
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
655 Posts
March 04 2019 04:34 GMT
#114
Well deserved. Congratulations soO!
"In order to be created, a work of art must first make use of the dark forces of the soul." ~Albert Camus
JuanDi
Profile Joined February 2016
45 Posts
March 04 2019 05:29 GMT
#115
On March 04 2019 00:34 Doko wrote:
Must watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JLkc4JN2VQ



I did not need to cry again
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-04 05:41:04
March 04 2019 05:40 GMT
#116
Easily the best storyline that could happen this year for me. soO finally getting his championship, especially after his 2018 performance where he looked ready to end his career and move on, is just so incredible. The only thing that could have made it better is if his series vs Serral had been the finals imo. Congrats to soOjwa, he most certainly earned it.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
March 04 2019 07:03 GMT
#117
as the biggest serral fanboy myself, no one deserved this more then mr 2nd place soO
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
March 04 2019 08:04 GMT
#118
So happy for soO, congratulations!
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
March 04 2019 08:40 GMT
#119
What a story - congratulations SoO, so well deserved!!
Not the most diverse games but still a great final and ending to the tournament!
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AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
March 04 2019 09:17 GMT
#120
Incredible! Wonderful tourny! Thank you all - soO is a legend!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 04 2019 09:23 GMT
#121
Noice, almost thought Stats would 4-0. Can't believe he brought it back!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
PanS3rnik
Profile Joined July 2018
18 Posts
March 04 2019 09:27 GMT
#122
WW 1oO !
Milleus
Profile Joined January 2014
Denmark29 Posts
March 04 2019 10:28 GMT
#123
I want a short film about this story
I want Sylvester Stone to be the instructor
I want the "ADRIAAAN" song at the end, replaced with SMIX
"SMIX I DID IT!"

God damn i am tearing up just thinking about it.
After all said and done, one and one still is ONE.
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1871 Posts
March 04 2019 10:40 GMT
#124
After working on https://www.theplayerslobby.com/3905/life-after-starcraft-eo-soo-yoon-soo-zerg-sc2/#.ANgro1YgjA with soO just a few weeks ago I'm that little bit extra happy that he finally got his win.
┗|∵|┓Second Place in LB 28, Third Place in LB 29 and Destined to Be a Kong
SoupedUpHellion
Profile Joined January 2019
20 Posts
March 04 2019 13:18 GMT
#125
Best moment in SC2 history.

byte-Curious
Profile Joined October 2018
Mexico107 Posts
March 04 2019 14:21 GMT
#126
That was a beautiful finale.

soO is qualified for Blizzcon now, right?
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
March 04 2019 14:25 GMT
#127
On March 04 2019 23:21 byte-Curious wrote:
That was a beautiful finale.

soO is qualified for Blizzcon now, right?

Yes, it also says so in the OP.
DSh1
Profile Joined April 2017
292 Posts
March 04 2019 14:29 GMT
#128
Stats was also the one who broke the "unstoppable Soo before finals in GSL" curse. Glad he also helped Soo win.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
March 04 2019 14:38 GMT
#129
Still sad about the lack of terran beyond the first round of the playoffs, but at a complete loss for words for soO. So happy to finally see him on the podium of a major major tournament.
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SwordSCII
Profile Joined February 2019
17 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-04 15:13:24
March 04 2019 15:13 GMT
#130
So happy for soO, he worked so hard for this
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 04 2019 17:23 GMT
#131
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
March 04 2019 19:03 GMT
#132
On March 04 2019 02:49 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 02:43 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 04 2019 02:09 evanreyes94 wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:34 Jihadi_Chant wrote:
He slayed a serral and he won IEM. Good job.


Winning IEM is a very very great achievement. I highly respect Soo for his hard work and skill. However, how is beating Serral an achievement? Soo is just stomping another foreigner on a luck streak. People are acting like Serral is the next Stephano.


Serral won more than Stephano

Even Neeb has won more than Stephano lol, not to mention Stephano still plays the game.


Did he ? Didn't realize that. Even in quantity ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 04 2019 19:20 GMT
#133
On March 05 2019 04:03 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 02:49 Shuffleblade wrote:
On March 04 2019 02:43 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 04 2019 02:09 evanreyes94 wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:34 Jihadi_Chant wrote:
He slayed a serral and he won IEM. Good job.


Winning IEM is a very very great achievement. I highly respect Soo for his hard work and skill. However, how is beating Serral an achievement? Soo is just stomping another foreigner on a luck streak. People are acting like Serral is the next Stephano.


Serral won more than Stephano

Even Neeb has won more than Stephano lol, not to mention Stephano still plays the game.


Did he ? Didn't realize that. Even in quantity ?


They have the same number of wins, Stephano has 4 premiers (IGN PL, ESWC, NASL and WCS EU) and 2 "real" major (Lone Star Clash 1 and 2) and Neeb also has 4 premier (3 WCS and a Kespa cup) a 2 major (Cheesadelphia and Hangzhou festival). The second-3rd-4th place are pretty similar, I would give the edge to Neeb personally since he was at the top of the foreign scene for longer (aka lost less vs foreigner) but Stephano won more tournament with korean in it, even if it was sometime B tier korean.
Pretty sure Neeb has more money tho.
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
March 04 2019 19:36 GMT
#134
On March 05 2019 02:23 sneakyfox wrote:
https://twitter.com/Hellspawnlord/status/1102587992391278592


great news for esports!
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
March 04 2019 19:58 GMT
#135
On March 05 2019 02:23 sneakyfox wrote:
https://twitter.com/Hellspawnlord/status/1102587992391278592

Awesome, so many great things happening. I've loved sc2 for so many years and if anyone would have told me after proleague was shut down that the Starcraft scene would get even better I would never have believed it. I cried when TY proxied Classic to take the proleague gold for KT, when Byun som and when Maru took his third consecutive gsl but this tournaments tops them all.

Not only did soO win, he did it in the most amazing way ever, almost getting knocked out of groups, taking Serral down AND clawing himself back Up from being 0-2 down. Seriously, I'll never forget this.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 04 2019 20:10 GMT
#136
On March 05 2019 02:23 sneakyfox wrote:
https://twitter.com/Hellspawnlord/status/1102587992391278592


That's reassuring. After the late start to the GSL and how shitty it's been over at Blizzard with Activisions encroaching influence this was starting to look like a worse year than 2016
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12875 Posts
March 04 2019 20:40 GMT
#137
Very happy for soO, it eclipses a bit the fact that terran was useless at this tournament. Hopefully Blizzard adresses this before WESG tho.

Kinda cool that Serral lost as well, some of his fans were obnoxious (not all thankfully) so they will probably chill a bit

Disappointed by foreigners performance, I feel like they can perform better :/

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WriterMaru
uummpaa
Profile Joined July 2018
238 Posts
March 04 2019 21:02 GMT
#138
i was out of town yesterday and tried my best to avoid spoilers, and thankfully i did.

and now i am sitting here, 36 years old, having seen my children been born and some loved ones go forever and still having a little bit of water in the edges of my eyes after a final of a videogame.

i often ask myself, why i keep watching this game, with all the people who seem to care more about memes than good play, or with finding even the most pathetic arguments why their favorite player is better than someone else favorite player. i keep on thinking, maybe its just not for me anymore.

but then a player like soO reminds me what makes all this great for me. uniting pretty much everybody in happines for a single person, no matter who they prefere on any other day.

even if he obviously will never ever read this here, but my sincere thanks to soO for never giving up and keep on trying and by that giving me the single best moment i have ever witnessed in all of starcraft.

you've always been a champion of hearts, now you are champion in every way
ukiya2004
Profile Joined March 2014
199 Posts
March 04 2019 23:17 GMT
#139
I re-activated my account just to comment on this. This guy..... This guy is a absolute fucking inspirational legend. 12 years of starcraft, 11 grand finals lost, and he finally manage to win one of the biggest championship ever against some of the best players the game has ever produced. When he was down 0-2 against Stats, I was thinking "OMG the curse is happening again, he's going to get smoked again in another finals". If it was me, my mental would be so broken at that point, but somehow soO managed to overcome this, and proceeded to play absolutely out of his mind. I've never seen something like that, it's like he just said fuck it all, and went into super saiyan mode and smashed the next 4 games out of the park.

soO, I've watched sc2 for almost 9 years and I've never really liked you as a player for some reason. Preferring people like Parting, MC, sOs, Maru, and Rogue. But last weekend changed everything. You are the fucking man. And my new favourite player. Whenever I feel down and feel like giving up in the future, I will think of that grand final match of IEM Katowice 2019 soO vs Stats, and I will try my best to channel my inner soO.

Never give up, never surrender.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 05 2019 02:11 GMT
#140
On March 05 2019 08:17 ukiya2004 wrote:
I re-activated my account just to comment on this. This guy..... This guy is a absolute fucking inspirational legend. 12 years of starcraft, 11 grand finals lost, and he finally manage to win one of the biggest championship ever against some of the best players the game has ever produced. When he was down 0-2 against Stats, I was thinking "OMG the curse is happening again, he's going to get smoked again in another finals". If it was me, my mental would be so broken at that point, but somehow soO managed to overcome this, and proceeded to play absolutely out of his mind. I've never seen something like that, it's like he just said fuck it all, and went into super saiyan mode and smashed the next 4 games out of the park.

soO, I've watched sc2 for almost 9 years and I've never really liked you as a player for some reason. Preferring people like Parting, MC, sOs, Maru, and Rogue. But last weekend changed everything. You are the fucking man. And my new favourite player. Whenever I feel down and feel like giving up in the future, I will think of that grand final match of IEM Katowice 2019 soO vs Stats, and I will try my best to channel my inner soO.

Never give up, never surrender.


Yep, I was tearing up alongside Smix and soO during that interview. I hate that Serral had to go down but at least he put up a valiant fight, and soO got his rightful place as a champion after all these years.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 05 2019 02:16 GMT
#141
On March 05 2019 05:40 Poopi wrote:
Very happy for soO, it eclipses a bit the fact that terran was useless at this tournament. Hopefully Blizzard adresses this before WESG tho.

Kinda cool that Serral lost as well, some of his fans were obnoxious (not all thankfully) so they will probably chill a bit

Disappointed by foreigners performance, I feel like they can perform better :/

User was temp banned for this post.


Really?
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 05 2019 02:41 GMT
#142
On March 05 2019 05:40 Poopi wrote:
Very happy for soO, it eclipses a bit the fact that terran was useless at this tournament. Hopefully Blizzard adresses this before WESG tho.

Kinda cool that Serral lost as well, some of his fans were obnoxious (not all thankfully) so they will probably chill a bit

Disappointed by foreigners performance, I feel like they can perform better :/

User was temp banned for this post.

Yeah no idea why this was ban worthy lol
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
March 05 2019 03:05 GMT
#143
On March 05 2019 11:41 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:40 Poopi wrote:
Very happy for soO, it eclipses a bit the fact that terran was useless at this tournament. Hopefully Blizzard adresses this before WESG tho.

Kinda cool that Serral lost as well, some of his fans were obnoxious (not all thankfully) so they will probably chill a bit

Disappointed by foreigners performance, I feel like they can perform better :/

User was temp banned for this post.

Yeah no idea why this was ban worthy lol


Gonna guess mod just got sick of people railroading a happy inspirational op with salt whining. Not saying there is no issue to be discussed but theres already MULTIPLE threads to bitch in.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 05 2019 03:14 GMT
#144
yeah i think the reason soo resonates with so many people is he is relatable, (setting aside the fact that he is a world class player lol). everyones got their own struggles in life and setbacks. sometimes your greatest demon you have to defeat - is yourself. and soo did that on sunday when he down 0-2. he was already a champion in my eyes for his grit and determination, it was inspirational to see his hard work and dedication pay off.
Myosotis
Profile Joined March 2019
8 Posts
March 05 2019 03:33 GMT
#145
ChampionSoo!!
I have been waiting for this monument for years😭
soO Classic TY
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 05 2019 04:29 GMT
#146
On March 05 2019 12:14 fishjie wrote:
yeah i think the reason soo resonates with so many people is he is relatable, (setting aside the fact that he is a world class player lol). everyones got their own struggles in life and setbacks. sometimes your greatest demon you have to defeat - is yourself. and soo did that on sunday when he down 0-2. he was already a champion in my eyes for his grit and determination, it was inspirational to see his hard work and dedication pay off.


Especially hearing his interview...he came back from the abyss and finally won the championship. I don't know of any story in any sport I find as inspiring.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
March 05 2019 07:29 GMT
#147
Very cool moment to watch live. So happy he finally managed to break the curse and to see how happy he was to win.
Artosis loves Starcraft
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
March 05 2019 09:57 GMT
#148
After all this time, where I was prepared Soo would fade, only to be now and there mentioned as the ultimate kong, when it was clear a player with the greatness of Soo would only be remembered as having the fate of a jobber, he did quality, removed the reigning champion from the competition and finally reached for the crown. This time he got it.

Him showing Serral the door means his victory cannot be questioned.

When Stats conceded, Soo looked a bit surprised. But he then lifted the trophy like a champion. Like all the time he knew, may the moment be brief, but he will have it.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 05 2019 12:11 GMT
#149
good, finally
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Deleted User 329278
Profile Joined March 2014
123 Posts
March 05 2019 14:45 GMT
#150
wtf i've been a bit out of sc2 for the last two months and just came to check how sc2 is doing and as it appears it can still go epic <3
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
March 05 2019 18:41 GMT
#151
Funny stats about the price pool :

Maru won 3 GSL, and earned 113k$

Soo has just won this tournament and earned 150k$
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
March 05 2019 18:56 GMT
#152
A fairy tale story indeed
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 05 2019 19:42 GMT
#153
On March 06 2019 03:41 Tyrhanius wrote:
Funny stats about the price pool :

Maru won 3 GSL, and earned 113k$

Soo has just won this tournament and earned 150k$


Maru earned 200k winning WESG.
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
March 05 2019 19:54 GMT
#154
On March 05 2019 11:41 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:40 Poopi wrote:
Very happy for soO, it eclipses a bit the fact that terran was useless at this tournament. Hopefully Blizzard adresses this before WESG tho.

Kinda cool that Serral lost as well, some of his fans were obnoxious (not all thankfully) so they will probably chill a bit

Disappointed by foreigners performance, I feel like they can perform better :/

User was temp banned for this post.

Yeah no idea why this was ban worthy lol

It's very simple.

1) The comment says he is happy Serral lost

2) The comment suggests that Terran is too weak as a race

The mods only permit balance complains from zergs and protoss, and they get really salty whenever anyone shows elation at Serral losing.

User was temp banned for this post.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 05 2019 19:58 GMT
#155
On March 06 2019 03:41 Tyrhanius wrote:
Funny stats about the price pool :

Maru won 3 GSL, and earned 113k$

Soo has just won this tournament and earned 150k$

If soO won the three GSLs in 2014 he'd have earned over $200K from them
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
March 05 2019 20:10 GMT
#156
On March 06 2019 03:41 Tyrhanius wrote:
Funny stats about the price pool :

Maru won 3 GSL, and earned 113k$

Soo has just won this tournament and earned 150k$

Well it makes up for all of his 6 loses. It is called soO redemption ...
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
March 05 2019 20:13 GMT
#157
Saw his match against Seral, and now caught up with Hero and Stats matches.
soO clean, soO strong, soO gg!
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 05 2019 20:35 GMT
#158
On March 05 2019 12:05 DomeGetta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 11:41 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:40 Poopi wrote:
Very happy for soO, it eclipses a bit the fact that terran was useless at this tournament. Hopefully Blizzard adresses this before WESG tho.

Kinda cool that Serral lost as well, some of his fans were obnoxious (not all thankfully) so they will probably chill a bit

Disappointed by foreigners performance, I feel like they can perform better :/

User was temp banned for this post.

Yeah no idea why this was ban worthy lol


Gonna guess mod just got sick of people railroading a happy inspirational op with salt whining. Not saying there is no issue to be discussed but theres already MULTIPLE threads to bitch in.

He's balance whining in every thread. He's an experienced user so he knows not to do it too blatantly as to be obviously a bannable offence, but he does it consistently like a faucet that is slowly dripping a drop of water at a time
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-05 20:37:31
March 05 2019 20:37 GMT
#159
On March 06 2019 04:54 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 11:41 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:40 Poopi wrote:
Very happy for soO, it eclipses a bit the fact that terran was useless at this tournament. Hopefully Blizzard adresses this before WESG tho.

Kinda cool that Serral lost as well, some of his fans were obnoxious (not all thankfully) so they will probably chill a bit

Disappointed by foreigners performance, I feel like they can perform better :/

User was temp banned for this post.

Yeah no idea why this was ban worthy lol

It's very simple.

1) The comment says he is happy Serral lost

2) The comment suggests that Terran is too weak as a race

The mods only permit balance complains from zergs and protoss, and they get really salty whenever anyone shows elation at Serral losing.


Some people play with fire...
You juggle with flametrowhers on a unicycle.
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ZergX
Profile Joined October 2010
France436 Posts
March 05 2019 21:57 GMT
#160
All Hail SoO! That's all i can say and do. Tears of joy ! B@D@SS !
Nestea fightingg ! DRG fightingggg !! Sen fightinggg ! July fighting ! SoO fighting !
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria818 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-05 22:21:25
March 05 2019 22:18 GMT
#161
On March 05 2019 16:29 NoS-Craig wrote:
Very cool moment to watch live. So happy he finally managed to break the curse and to see how happy he was to win.


There's no curse. It's a psychological barrier which he had to overcome just like any champion. Admittedly, his path to the victory was longer, hence more emotional. Congratulations to soO as this still quite an achievement to keep trying and to win finally.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 05 2019 22:52 GMT
#162
On March 06 2019 07:18 SC-Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 16:29 NoS-Craig wrote:
Very cool moment to watch live. So happy he finally managed to break the curse and to see how happy he was to win.


There's no curse. It's a psychological barrier which he had to overcome just like any champion. Admittedly, his path to the victory was longer, hence more emotional. Congratulations to soO as this still quite an achievement to keep trying and to win finally.


As previously pointed out, soO wasn't expected to win every single final he lost; every defeat slowly eroded his confidence to the point it became a "curse" for him and perceived as such by the viewers.

Evidently, the fact he will be forced to retire at the end of the year allowed him to overcome his block and eventually win a well deserved prestigious title.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-05 23:55:55
March 05 2019 23:55 GMT
#163
On March 06 2019 07:18 SC-Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 16:29 NoS-Craig wrote:
Very cool moment to watch live. So happy he finally managed to break the curse and to see how happy he was to win.


There's no curse. It's a psychological barrier which he had to overcome just like any champion. Admittedly, his path to the victory was longer, hence more emotional. Congratulations to soO as this still quite an achievement to keep trying and to win finally.

Psychological barrier is the wrong term, it was not that he could not win due to psychological factors, it was just that those factors effected him. The mental state effects all players, everyone have times when they perform worse due to strain, fear, pressure, exhilaration or similar that doesn't mean they have a barrier

soO didn't have to overcome a mental block "just like any other champion", any other champion hasn't lost three consecutive finals. Most champions don't even know a fraction of the pressure soO has been through, maybe thats why he was able to play well, maybe the pressure gave him strength rather than create a block.

As previously pointed out, soO wasn't expected to win every single final he lost; every defeat slowly eroded his confidence to the point it became a "curse" for him and perceived as such by the viewers.

Evidently, the fact he will be forced to retire at the end of the year allowed him to overcome his block and eventually win a well deserved prestigious title.

Not sure it was due to him retiring, he has been considering retiring many times, that didn't make him win a finals before. I don't think his victory should be cheapened to the point that its chored up to be just because he is about to retire.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-06 00:11:47
March 06 2019 00:11 GMT
#164
It'll be interesting to see if this win gives him the mentality to finally win his true white whail: the GSL
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 06 2019 00:32 GMT
#165
On March 06 2019 08:55 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 07:18 SC-Shield wrote:
On March 05 2019 16:29 NoS-Craig wrote:
Very cool moment to watch live. So happy he finally managed to break the curse and to see how happy he was to win.


There's no curse. It's a psychological barrier which he had to overcome just like any champion. Admittedly, his path to the victory was longer, hence more emotional. Congratulations to soO as this still quite an achievement to keep trying and to win finally.

Psychological barrier is the wrong term, it was not that he could not win due to psychological factors, it was just that those factors effected him. The mental state effects all players, everyone have times when they perform worse due to strain, fear, pressure, exhilaration or similar that doesn't mean they have a barrier

soO didn't have to overcome a mental block "just like any other champion", any other champion hasn't lost three consecutive finals. Most champions don't even know a fraction of the pressure soO has been through, maybe thats why he was able to play well, maybe the pressure gave him strength rather than create a block.

Show nested quote +
As previously pointed out, soO wasn't expected to win every single final he lost; every defeat slowly eroded his confidence to the point it became a "curse" for him and perceived as such by the viewers.

Evidently, the fact he will be forced to retire at the end of the year allowed him to overcome his block and eventually win a well deserved prestigious title.

Not sure it was due to him retiring, he has been considering retiring many times, that didn't make him win a finals before. I don't think his victory should be cheapened to the point that its chored up to be just because he is about to retire.


He had considered retiring in the past, now he knows for sure he will have to; that's a big difference, to me.

I don't think this cheapens his victory, to me it makes it more epic. soO had looked stronger in the past coming into the finals and there were situations when his victory looked a much likelier conclusion, yet he won now; not sure it's just a coincidence.
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
March 06 2019 03:46 GMT
#166
On March 06 2019 09:32 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 08:55 Shuffleblade wrote:
On March 06 2019 07:18 SC-Shield wrote:
On March 05 2019 16:29 NoS-Craig wrote:
Very cool moment to watch live. So happy he finally managed to break the curse and to see how happy he was to win.


There's no curse. It's a psychological barrier which he had to overcome just like any champion. Admittedly, his path to the victory was longer, hence more emotional. Congratulations to soO as this still quite an achievement to keep trying and to win finally.

Psychological barrier is the wrong term, it was not that he could not win due to psychological factors, it was just that those factors effected him. The mental state effects all players, everyone have times when they perform worse due to strain, fear, pressure, exhilaration or similar that doesn't mean they have a barrier

soO didn't have to overcome a mental block "just like any other champion", any other champion hasn't lost three consecutive finals. Most champions don't even know a fraction of the pressure soO has been through, maybe thats why he was able to play well, maybe the pressure gave him strength rather than create a block.

As previously pointed out, soO wasn't expected to win every single final he lost; every defeat slowly eroded his confidence to the point it became a "curse" for him and perceived as such by the viewers.

Evidently, the fact he will be forced to retire at the end of the year allowed him to overcome his block and eventually win a well deserved prestigious title.

Not sure it was due to him retiring, he has been considering retiring many times, that didn't make him win a finals before. I don't think his victory should be cheapened to the point that its chored up to be just because he is about to retire.


He had considered retiring in the past, now he knows for sure he will have to; that's a big difference, to me.

I don't think this cheapens his victory, to me it makes it more epic. soO had looked stronger in the past coming into the finals and there were situations when his victory looked a much likelier conclusion, yet he won now; not sure it's just a coincidence.

I think you're interpretation is still off.

The idea that "soO wasn't expected to win every single final he lost" is just plainly wrong. He was considered a favorite or equal in multiple of his finals.
I think there is a bigger factor than him being forced to retire soon: he had very little pressure at this event. He wasn't considered by anybody to make an impact. He probably was counted out by many to even get out of his group - and rightfully so, considering the very close results of his group. There weren't expectations laying on him and with every step he already was "overperformig" while being considered the underdog even in the finals. SoO was more able to just play his
style without thinking about the outcome too much.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 06 2019 05:30 GMT
#167
On March 06 2019 12:46 fronkschnonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 09:32 Xain0n wrote:
On March 06 2019 08:55 Shuffleblade wrote:
On March 06 2019 07:18 SC-Shield wrote:
On March 05 2019 16:29 NoS-Craig wrote:
Very cool moment to watch live. So happy he finally managed to break the curse and to see how happy he was to win.


There's no curse. It's a psychological barrier which he had to overcome just like any champion. Admittedly, his path to the victory was longer, hence more emotional. Congratulations to soO as this still quite an achievement to keep trying and to win finally.

Psychological barrier is the wrong term, it was not that he could not win due to psychological factors, it was just that those factors effected him. The mental state effects all players, everyone have times when they perform worse due to strain, fear, pressure, exhilaration or similar that doesn't mean they have a barrier

soO didn't have to overcome a mental block "just like any other champion", any other champion hasn't lost three consecutive finals. Most champions don't even know a fraction of the pressure soO has been through, maybe thats why he was able to play well, maybe the pressure gave him strength rather than create a block.

As previously pointed out, soO wasn't expected to win every single final he lost; every defeat slowly eroded his confidence to the point it became a "curse" for him and perceived as such by the viewers.

Evidently, the fact he will be forced to retire at the end of the year allowed him to overcome his block and eventually win a well deserved prestigious title.

Not sure it was due to him retiring, he has been considering retiring many times, that didn't make him win a finals before. I don't think his victory should be cheapened to the point that its chored up to be just because he is about to retire.


He had considered retiring in the past, now he knows for sure he will have to; that's a big difference, to me.

I don't think this cheapens his victory, to me it makes it more epic. soO had looked stronger in the past coming into the finals and there were situations when his victory looked a much likelier conclusion, yet he won now; not sure it's just a coincidence.

I think you're interpretation is still off.

The idea that "soO wasn't expected to win every single final he lost" is just plainly wrong. He was considered a favorite or equal in multiple of his finals.
I think there is a bigger factor than him being forced to retire soon: he had very little pressure at this event. He wasn't considered by anybody to make an impact. He probably was counted out by many to even get out of his group - and rightfully so, considering the very close results of his group. There weren't expectations laying on him and with every step he already was "overperformig" while being considered the underdog even in the finals. SoO was more able to just play his
style without thinking about the outcome too much.


That's...a stretch, to put it lightly. But maybe now that he has won a championship he'll be able to get better results in other tournaments.
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kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary483 Posts
March 06 2019 08:39 GMT
#168
Why is he being forced to retire exactly? He reached a point where he cannot postpone further his military service?
Why so serious?
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
March 06 2019 09:19 GMT
#169
On March 04 2019 00:23 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
...if soO can change his reputation from that as StarCraft II's biggest loser...

wow, ouch! that is such an unfair statement. he was one of the greatest before, anyways!
spenzer
Profile Joined June 2016
27 Posts
March 06 2019 09:34 GMT
#170
On March 06 2019 18:19 MrMischelito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 00:23 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
...if soO can change his reputation from that as StarCraft II's biggest loser...

wow, ouch! that is such an unfair statement. he was one of the greatest before, anyways!

can only agree. Even if you "only" become 2nd so many times in a row it still means you have been to the final every time and been better than so many other in this tournaments.
It's good to see such a passionate guy win a trophy after so many years especially in that fashion.
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary483 Posts
March 06 2019 10:21 GMT
#171
On March 06 2019 18:34 spenzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 18:19 MrMischelito wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:23 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
...if soO can change his reputation from that as StarCraft II's biggest loser...

wow, ouch! that is such an unfair statement. he was one of the greatest before, anyways!

can only agree. Even if you "only" become 2nd so many times in a row it still means you have been to the final every time and been better than so many other in this tournaments.
It's good to see such a passionate guy win a trophy after so many years especially in that fashion.


Just look the videos and interviews in general. Korean society is nowhere near as forgiving to 2nd places as you are.
Why so serious?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 06 2019 13:08 GMT
#172
On March 06 2019 19:21 kajtarp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 18:34 spenzer wrote:
On March 06 2019 18:19 MrMischelito wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:23 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
...if soO can change his reputation from that as StarCraft II's biggest loser...

wow, ouch! that is such an unfair statement. he was one of the greatest before, anyways!

can only agree. Even if you "only" become 2nd so many times in a row it still means you have been to the final every time and been better than so many other in this tournaments.
It's good to see such a passionate guy win a trophy after so many years especially in that fashion.


Just look the videos and interviews in general. Korean society is nowhere near as forgiving to 2nd places as you are.

They adopted the Bender philosophy? Second place? That's just a fancy word for losing!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
March 06 2019 14:06 GMT
#173
Ok hopefully u sickos are done arguing about nonsense now....did anybody see that soO streamed what looked like replay analysis of iem last night!?!?? I sub his stream and would be so insanely greatful to someone who would watch vod and translate.
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
March 06 2019 14:30 GMT
#174
On March 06 2019 23:06 DomeGetta wrote:
Ok hopefully u sickos are done arguing about nonsense now....did anybody see that soO streamed what looked like replay analysis of iem last night!?!?? I sub his stream and would be so insanely greatful to someone who would watch vod and translate.


saddest part is that he discussed it on pure Korean and you're correct, it would be insanely grateful if someone translated it.
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-06 15:17:26
March 06 2019 15:16 GMT
#175
On March 06 2019 23:30 SamirDuran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 23:06 DomeGetta wrote:
Ok hopefully u sickos are done arguing about nonsense now....did anybody see that soO streamed what looked like replay analysis of iem last night!?!?? I sub his stream and would be so insanely greatful to someone who would watch vod and translate.


saddest part is that he discussed it on pure Korean and you're correct, it would be insanely grateful if someone translated it.


It's no soO, but I think ZG did some replay analysis of IEM Katowice but IDK if it was only terran, I assume Pig will do some in the near future too, I'm sure other streamer/ pro player did/will also do it. It could satisfy you, I'll be surprise if anyone translate a full stream from korean to english to be honest
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Kikirik1
Profile Joined January 2017
45 Posts
March 06 2019 17:18 GMT
#176
On March 06 2019 19:21 kajtarp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 18:34 spenzer wrote:
On March 06 2019 18:19 MrMischelito wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:23 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
...if soO can change his reputation from that as StarCraft II's biggest loser...

wow, ouch! that is such an unfair statement. he was one of the greatest before, anyways!

can only agree. Even if you "only" become 2nd so many times in a row it still means you have been to the final every time and been better than so many other in this tournaments.
It's good to see such a passionate guy win a trophy after so many years especially in that fashion.


Just look the videos and interviews in general. Korean society is nowhere near as forgiving to 2nd places as you are.

Its funny how fens thing its about glory, and glory is just AIR.
blardoh
Profile Joined June 2017
20 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-06 19:13:51
March 06 2019 18:53 GMT
#177
On March 04 2019 00:44 fishjie wrote:

to me, this win is more amazing than maru triple GSL first place finishes, and serrals 2018 dominance and becoming first foreigner to win blizzcon and best player in the world


Literally can't comprehend how one could actually think this.

Maru finally rising up was more inspirational than soO's. They both been playing sc2 for nearly same amount of time, both won some tournaments here and there but nothing major until finally Maru won 3 back to back GSLs compared to soO's one Katowice win.
Doink
Profile Joined April 2017
75 Posts
March 06 2019 19:07 GMT
#178
On March 07 2019 03:53 blardoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 00:44 fishjie wrote:

to me, this win is more amazing than maru triple GSL first place finishes, and serrals 2018 dominance and becoming first foreigner to win blizzcon and best player in the world


Literally can't comprehend how one could actually think this.


With soO's win there was much drama and emotions. Some people like that (I don't understand either, Maru's and Serral's accomplishments are far more amazing imo).
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-06 19:24:23
March 06 2019 19:23 GMT
#179
On March 07 2019 03:53 blardoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 00:44 fishjie wrote:

to me, this win is more amazing than maru triple GSL first place finishes, and serrals 2018 dominance and becoming first foreigner to win blizzcon and best player in the world


Literally can't comprehend how one could actually think this.

Maru finally rising up was more inspirational than soO's. They both been playing sc2 for nearly same amount of time, both won some tournaments here and there but nothing major until finally Maru won 3 back to back GSLs compared to soO's one Katowice win.

Uhem, Maru played sc2 since inception, soO only joined in 2 years later. Also, Maru became relevant (as the top tier player, before anyone nitpicks) right as he won a starleague title.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
March 06 2019 19:26 GMT
#180
On March 07 2019 03:53 blardoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 00:44 fishjie wrote:

to me, this win is more amazing than maru triple GSL first place finishes, and serrals 2018 dominance and becoming first foreigner to win blizzcon and best player in the world


Literally can't comprehend how one could actually think this.

Maru finally rising up was more inspirational than soO's. They both been playing sc2 for nearly same amount of time, both won some tournaments here and there but nothing major until finally Maru won 3 back to back GSLs compared to soO's one Katowice win.

Maru was a double Royal Roader and the best Proleague player in SC2 history years before his triple GSL run.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
March 06 2019 19:31 GMT
#181
Can we just stop with comparing between soO vs somebody? The post about soO long-waiting victory and let keep it about soO's victory.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 06 2019 19:44 GMT
#182
On March 06 2019 23:30 SamirDuran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 23:06 DomeGetta wrote:
Ok hopefully u sickos are done arguing about nonsense now....did anybody see that soO streamed what looked like replay analysis of iem last night!?!?? I sub his stream and would be so insanely greatful to someone who would watch vod and translate.


saddest part is that he discussed it on pure Korean and you're correct, it would be insanely grateful if someone translated it.


+1

Would really like to see that.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
March 06 2019 20:18 GMT
#183
On March 07 2019 04:44 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 23:30 SamirDuran wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:06 DomeGetta wrote:
Ok hopefully u sickos are done arguing about nonsense now....did anybody see that soO streamed what looked like replay analysis of iem last night!?!?? I sub his stream and would be so insanely greatful to someone who would watch vod and translate.


saddest part is that he discussed it on pure Korean and you're correct, it would be insanely grateful if someone translated it.


+1

Would really like to see that.


If anybody knows soO (ahem mizenhauer) and could reach out to him about it see if hes cool w someone playing the vod on stream while a translater voice overs! Will throw down on the translaters fee.
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1871 Posts
March 06 2019 20:23 GMT
#184
On March 07 2019 05:18 DomeGetta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 04:44 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:30 SamirDuran wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:06 DomeGetta wrote:
Ok hopefully u sickos are done arguing about nonsense now....did anybody see that soO streamed what looked like replay analysis of iem last night!?!?? I sub his stream and would be so insanely greatful to someone who would watch vod and translate.


saddest part is that he discussed it on pure Korean and you're correct, it would be insanely grateful if someone translated it.


+1

Would really like to see that.


If anybody knows soO (ahem mizenhauer) and could reach out to him about it see if hes cool w someone playing the vod on stream while a translater voice overs! Will throw down on the translaters fee.


I can talk to him about it, but what you're asking for is a weird way of doing it. I also have a translator that I work with on articles. If you're serious about paying for a translation send me a PM and we'll see what I can do.
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DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
March 06 2019 20:27 GMT
#185
On March 07 2019 05:23 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 05:18 DomeGetta wrote:
On March 07 2019 04:44 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:30 SamirDuran wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:06 DomeGetta wrote:
Ok hopefully u sickos are done arguing about nonsense now....did anybody see that soO streamed what looked like replay analysis of iem last night!?!?? I sub his stream and would be so insanely greatful to someone who would watch vod and translate.


saddest part is that he discussed it on pure Korean and you're correct, it would be insanely grateful if someone translated it.


+1

Would really like to see that.


If anybody knows soO (ahem mizenhauer) and could reach out to him about it see if hes cool w someone playing the vod on stream while a translater voice overs! Will throw down on the translaters fee.


I can talk to him about it, but what you're asking for is a weird way of doing it. I also have a translator that I work with on articles. If you're serious about paying for a translation send me a PM and we'll see what I can do.



Awesome! Yah i just wrote the first idea that came to my head lol. No preference whatsoever on format. Will pm u.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 06 2019 20:30 GMT
#186
On March 07 2019 05:27 DomeGetta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 05:23 Mizenhauer wrote:
On March 07 2019 05:18 DomeGetta wrote:
On March 07 2019 04:44 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:30 SamirDuran wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:06 DomeGetta wrote:
Ok hopefully u sickos are done arguing about nonsense now....did anybody see that soO streamed what looked like replay analysis of iem last night!?!?? I sub his stream and would be so insanely greatful to someone who would watch vod and translate.


saddest part is that he discussed it on pure Korean and you're correct, it would be insanely grateful if someone translated it.


+1

Would really like to see that.


If anybody knows soO (ahem mizenhauer) and could reach out to him about it see if hes cool w someone playing the vod on stream while a translater voice overs! Will throw down on the translaters fee.


I can talk to him about it, but what you're asking for is a weird way of doing it. I also have a translator that I work with on articles. If you're serious about paying for a translation send me a PM and we'll see what I can do.



Awesome! Yah i just wrote the first idea that came to my head lol. No preference whatsoever on format. Will pm u.



"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
March 06 2019 20:40 GMT
#187
On March 07 2019 05:23 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 05:18 DomeGetta wrote:
On March 07 2019 04:44 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:30 SamirDuran wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:06 DomeGetta wrote:
Ok hopefully u sickos are done arguing about nonsense now....did anybody see that soO streamed what looked like replay analysis of iem last night!?!?? I sub his stream and would be so insanely greatful to someone who would watch vod and translate.


saddest part is that he discussed it on pure Korean and you're correct, it would be insanely grateful if someone translated it.


+1

Would really like to see that.


If anybody knows soO (ahem mizenhauer) and could reach out to him about it see if hes cool w someone playing the vod on stream while a translater voice overs! Will throw down on the translaters fee.


I can talk to him about it, but what you're asking for is a weird way of doing it. I also have a translator that I work with on articles. If you're serious about paying for a translation send me a PM and we'll see what I can do.




Also do you TL crew have some kind of big brother alert whenever anybody puts ur name in a thread?! 5 min response time is epic xD
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2629 Posts
March 07 2019 00:17 GMT
#188
On March 07 2019 03:53 blardoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2019 00:44 fishjie wrote:

to me, this win is more amazing than maru triple GSL first place finishes, and serrals 2018 dominance and becoming first foreigner to win blizzcon and best player in the world


Literally can't comprehend how one could actually think this.

Maru finally rising up was more inspirational than soO's. They both been playing sc2 for nearly same amount of time, both won some tournaments here and there but nothing major until finally Maru won 3 back to back GSLs compared to soO's one Katowice win.

Dude no one is claiming soO winning IEM is somehow harder or more of an achievement than Maru and Serral's victories last year. The guy is just saying he finds it more inspiring for him. I agree too, getting 11 second places then finally winning one of the hardest tournaments in the world makes for a much better story than someone just winning everything.
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 07 2019 00:20 GMT
#189
On March 07 2019 05:27 DomeGetta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 05:23 Mizenhauer wrote:
On March 07 2019 05:18 DomeGetta wrote:
On March 07 2019 04:44 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:30 SamirDuran wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:06 DomeGetta wrote:
Ok hopefully u sickos are done arguing about nonsense now....did anybody see that soO streamed what looked like replay analysis of iem last night!?!?? I sub his stream and would be so insanely greatful to someone who would watch vod and translate.


saddest part is that he discussed it on pure Korean and you're correct, it would be insanely grateful if someone translated it.


+1

Would really like to see that.


If anybody knows soO (ahem mizenhauer) and could reach out to him about it see if hes cool w someone playing the vod on stream while a translater voice overs! Will throw down on the translaters fee.


I can talk to him about it, but what you're asking for is a weird way of doing it. I also have a translator that I work with on articles. If you're serious about paying for a translation send me a PM and we'll see what I can do.



Awesome! Yah i just wrote the first idea that came to my head lol. No preference whatsoever on format. Will pm u.


I'll contribute too if need be. Thanks for being a bro and putting it out there.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
March 07 2019 00:31 GMT
#190
On March 07 2019 09:20 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 05:27 DomeGetta wrote:
On March 07 2019 05:23 Mizenhauer wrote:
On March 07 2019 05:18 DomeGetta wrote:
On March 07 2019 04:44 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:30 SamirDuran wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:06 DomeGetta wrote:
Ok hopefully u sickos are done arguing about nonsense now....did anybody see that soO streamed what looked like replay analysis of iem last night!?!?? I sub his stream and would be so insanely greatful to someone who would watch vod and translate.


saddest part is that he discussed it on pure Korean and you're correct, it would be insanely grateful if someone translated it.


+1

Would really like to see that.


If anybody knows soO (ahem mizenhauer) and could reach out to him about it see if hes cool w someone playing the vod on stream while a translater voice overs! Will throw down on the translaters fee.


I can talk to him about it, but what you're asking for is a weird way of doing it. I also have a translator that I work with on articles. If you're serious about paying for a translation send me a PM and we'll see what I can do.



Awesome! Yah i just wrote the first idea that came to my head lol. No preference whatsoever on format. Will pm u.


I'll contribute too if need be. Thanks for being a bro and putting it out there.


I would also like to contribute even if it is just a small contribution. soO is so inspiring that i want to know what he feels and thinks when he played those games.
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
March 07 2019 01:11 GMT
#191
On March 07 2019 09:31 SamirDuran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 09:20 mierin wrote:
On March 07 2019 05:27 DomeGetta wrote:
On March 07 2019 05:23 Mizenhauer wrote:
On March 07 2019 05:18 DomeGetta wrote:
On March 07 2019 04:44 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:30 SamirDuran wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:06 DomeGetta wrote:
Ok hopefully u sickos are done arguing about nonsense now....did anybody see that soO streamed what looked like replay analysis of iem last night!?!?? I sub his stream and would be so insanely greatful to someone who would watch vod and translate.


saddest part is that he discussed it on pure Korean and you're correct, it would be insanely grateful if someone translated it.


+1

Would really like to see that.


If anybody knows soO (ahem mizenhauer) and could reach out to him about it see if hes cool w someone playing the vod on stream while a translater voice overs! Will throw down on the translaters fee.


I can talk to him about it, but what you're asking for is a weird way of doing it. I also have a translator that I work with on articles. If you're serious about paying for a translation send me a PM and we'll see what I can do.



Awesome! Yah i just wrote the first idea that came to my head lol. No preference whatsoever on format. Will pm u.


I'll contribute too if need be. Thanks for being a bro and putting it out there.


I would also like to contribute even if it is just a small contribution. soO is so inspiring that i want to know what he feels and thinks when he played those games.


Good deal bros. Miz is gonna try to work it out w a translator and make a vid send me pm will let u kno watsup.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 07 2019 08:56 GMT
#192
On March 07 2019 09:17 Brutaxilos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 03:53 blardoh wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:44 fishjie wrote:

to me, this win is more amazing than maru triple GSL first place finishes, and serrals 2018 dominance and becoming first foreigner to win blizzcon and best player in the world


Literally can't comprehend how one could actually think this.

Maru finally rising up was more inspirational than soO's. They both been playing sc2 for nearly same amount of time, both won some tournaments here and there but nothing major until finally Maru won 3 back to back GSLs compared to soO's one Katowice win.

Dude no one is claiming soO winning IEM is somehow harder or more of an achievement than Maru and Serral's victories last year. The guy is just saying he finds it more inspiring for him. I agree too, getting 11 second places then finally winning one of the hardest tournaments in the world makes for a much better story than someone just winning everything.

soO winning KeSPA cup forever forgotten
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
March 07 2019 09:20 GMT
#193
On March 07 2019 17:56 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 09:17 Brutaxilos wrote:
On March 07 2019 03:53 blardoh wrote:
On March 04 2019 00:44 fishjie wrote:

to me, this win is more amazing than maru triple GSL first place finishes, and serrals 2018 dominance and becoming first foreigner to win blizzcon and best player in the world


Literally can't comprehend how one could actually think this.

Maru finally rising up was more inspirational than soO's. They both been playing sc2 for nearly same amount of time, both won some tournaments here and there but nothing major until finally Maru won 3 back to back GSLs compared to soO's one Katowice win.

Dude no one is claiming soO winning IEM is somehow harder or more of an achievement than Maru and Serral's victories last year. The guy is just saying he finds it more inspiring for him. I agree too, getting 11 second places then finally winning one of the hardest tournaments in the world makes for a much better story than someone just winning everything.

soO winning KeSPA cup forever forgotten


KeSPA cup definitely takes 2nd place to this IEM, technically making it his 12th 2nd place.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary483 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-07 10:37:00
March 07 2019 10:34 GMT
#194
On March 07 2019 17:56 deacon.frost wrote:

soO winning KeSPA cup forever forgotten


As it was said many times, it isn't considered as a premier tournament by many. Which i never understood, since the very same players entered that tournament, like any other SSL or GSL. But the winner prize money was like only comparable to a GSL 3-4th prize money, while the GSL winner got lik 8x the money of the Kespa cup winners prize money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JLkc4JN2VQ

Why so serious?
ShadowReaver
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada563 Posts
March 07 2019 20:20 GMT
#195
soO you've finally done it. All of the heartbreak of the past can now be laid to rest. We've always believed in you and now you are a champion. soO fighting!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 07 2019 22:44 GMT
#196
On March 07 2019 19:34 kajtarp wrote:
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On March 07 2019 17:56 deacon.frost wrote:

soO winning KeSPA cup forever forgotten


As it was said many times, it isn't considered as a premier tournament by many. Which i never understood, since the very same players entered that tournament, like any other SSL or GSL. But the winner prize money was like only comparable to a GSL 3-4th prize money, while the GSL winner got lik 8x the money of the Kespa cup winners prize money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JLkc4JN2VQ


I don't care what's it considered, he had to beat KeSPA players during undisputable KeSPA reign. He won a hard tournament almost exactly in the middle of all the 2nd places. He won before, it wasn't 11 second places and no championship title there. This just lowers his acomplishments. Winning that tourney was big.

On March 08 2019 05:20 ShadowReaver wrote:
soO you've finally done it. All of the heartbreak of the past can now be laid to rest. We've always believed in you and now you are a champion. soO fighting!

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Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
March 09 2019 22:06 GMT
#197
This was really inspiring and one of my favorite e-sports related anything. Thanks soo, now I want to hit the ladder again
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-10 17:35:12
March 10 2019 17:25 GMT
#198
I love the interview on (Z)soO done by hajisun & (P)ToD. He jokingly said that Serral was the Deepmind, so if he beat Serral then he technically beat Deepmind.

Then, the story about (T)Bunny as the next player should bear the curse of Kong. Bunny was dreaming of having final matchup with Soo, so that he could win easily. This was made before Soo hold the IEM trophy.
He also trash talked Stats some kind like underperformed soccer player, and (Z)Rogue as someone couldn't be able to hold the IEM trophy like he did.

Other thing was his relationship with Innovation seemed like special thing since he praised him a lot during the interview. I guess it was a platonic bromance-kind relationship, maybe.

Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
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