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On October 05 2018 08:37 ramask2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 07:20 Fango wrote:On October 05 2018 05:40 ramask2 wrote:On October 05 2018 05:07 Garrl wrote:
blizzard probably aren't doing so great right now; BFA has possibly one of the worst receptions in MMO history, HS has been dropping off and now has some serious competition in MTGA/Artifact, SC2 and SCR probably aren't bringing in big money, D3 is as good as dead, and did anyone ever watch OW and HOTS esports in the first place?
I think we can expect at the very least a new franchise announced at blizzcon, and possibly WC4 considering they've been patching WC3 for a few months now, possibly to build some sort of anticipation. Overwatch League has been doing relatively well. Drew 100k-ish viewers throughout the whole first season Is that actually good though? The amount of money invested into OWL is on a different magnitude to SC2. I'm no expert but it's enticing enough to draw in 8 other big investors for the second season. From what I've heard it's doing better than expected for the first season.
They had some seriously low expectations then. If they consider owl a success then I'd be shocked if they don't keep investing in wcs.
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Finland966 Posts
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He is kinda right, but he uses wrong argument. The problem is maintenance of additional servers, amount of players on each server/spliting community. But that also is only limiting to a certain degree - Lineage 2 is supporting servers for old game versions and they have some popularity.
There is generally nothing wrong with people playing old versions with some features missing. Let people decide what they want, nothing wrong with having more options. Paradox supports playing on old versions of their games and its cartainly being used by players. Same is with NCSoft as i mentioned above.
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ATVI has gone from $83.03 to $80 since ATVI said they replaced Morhaime with Brack...and its falling today.
On October 05 2018 08:37 ramask2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 07:20 Fango wrote:On October 05 2018 05:40 ramask2 wrote:On October 05 2018 05:07 Garrl wrote:
blizzard probably aren't doing so great right now; BFA has possibly one of the worst receptions in MMO history, HS has been dropping off and now has some serious competition in MTGA/Artifact, SC2 and SCR probably aren't bringing in big money, D3 is as good as dead, and did anyone ever watch OW and HOTS esports in the first place?
I think we can expect at the very least a new franchise announced at blizzcon, and possibly WC4 considering they've been patching WC3 for a few months now, possibly to build some sort of anticipation. Overwatch League has been doing relatively well. Drew 100k-ish viewers throughout the whole first season Is that actually good though? The amount of money invested into OWL is on a different magnitude to SC2. I'm no expert but it's enticing enough to draw in 8 other big investors for the second season. From what I've heard it's doing better than expected for the first season.
8 Big investors? who exactly bought the Toronto OW team? who are these guys?
a "big investor" would be MLSE or Rogers or Bell.
Had ATVI convinced MLSE to buy a team it would lend much more credibility to the Toronto team. Incidentally, MLSE owns the NBA2K Toronto team.
Overactive media is a joke man.
https://twitter.com/overactivemedia?lang=en
if this is all ATVI got for a team in the 3rd biggest media market in NA then i'd say OWL ain't goin so great.
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On October 05 2018 23:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 08:37 ramask2 wrote:On October 05 2018 07:20 Fango wrote:On October 05 2018 05:40 ramask2 wrote:On October 05 2018 05:07 Garrl wrote:
blizzard probably aren't doing so great right now; BFA has possibly one of the worst receptions in MMO history, HS has been dropping off and now has some serious competition in MTGA/Artifact, SC2 and SCR probably aren't bringing in big money, D3 is as good as dead, and did anyone ever watch OW and HOTS esports in the first place?
I think we can expect at the very least a new franchise announced at blizzcon, and possibly WC4 considering they've been patching WC3 for a few months now, possibly to build some sort of anticipation. Overwatch League has been doing relatively well. Drew 100k-ish viewers throughout the whole first season Is that actually good though? The amount of money invested into OWL is on a different magnitude to SC2. I'm no expert but it's enticing enough to draw in 8 other big investors for the second season. From what I've heard it's doing better than expected for the first season. 8 Big investors? who exactly bought the Toronto OW team? who are these guys? a "big investor" would be MLSE or Rogers or Bell. Had ATVI convinced MLSE to buy a team it would lend much more credibility to the Toronto team. Incidentally, MLSE owns the NBA2K Toronto team. Overactive media is a joke man. https://twitter.com/overactivemedia?lang=enif this is all ATVI got for a team in the 3rd biggest media market in NA then i'd say OWL ain't goin so great.
Big investors as in someone willing to buy into being one of the team. By all account the amount increased significantly over last year.
Look I’m not saying OWL is a smashing success, but from what I’ve heard from people trying to bid into an OWL team in the SEA region, the league is gaining larger than expected revenue. That’s the figure Blizzard is giving potential investors.
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Ever bought tickets for an OWL game? when you buy tickets for a mid-week OWL game they throw in free tickets for Friday and Saturday. They only have 500 seats.. and even in an arena that small the house is papered.
On October 06 2018 00:00 ramask2 wrote:
Look I’m not saying OWL is a smashing success, but from what I’ve heard from people trying to bid into an OWL team in the SEA region, the league is gaining larger than expected revenue. That’s the figure Blizzard is giving potential investors.
ATVI is well known for sandbagging in order to achieve "better than expected" results.
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On October 06 2018 00:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Ever bought tickets for an OWL game? when you buy tickets for a mid-week OWL game they throw in free tickets for Friday and Saturday. They only have 500 seats.. and even in an arena that small the house is papered. Show nested quote +On October 06 2018 00:00 ramask2 wrote:
Look I’m not saying OWL is a smashing success, but from what I’ve heard from people trying to bid into an OWL team in the SEA region, the league is gaining larger than expected revenue. That’s the figure Blizzard is giving potential investors. ATVI is well known for sandbagging in order to achieve "better than expected" results.
Eh I dunno about the live experience for OWL, but I’ll trust your experience.
For what it’s worth the recent world cup in Thailand filled the 3000 seats arena and lots of OWL merchandise are sold out by day 1. They DO have fans around the world.
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United States996 Posts
ah man. guy is an absolute legend and a huge sc advocate. thanks for everything
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On October 05 2018 19:51 ihatevideogames wrote:
Even if I didn't like anything Blizz did in recent years, the guy is still a legend.
That said, this is a clear sign that Activision-Blizzard is about to become ACTIVISION-blizzard.
More activision? What is so activision about blizzard?
On October 05 2018 15:46 lestye wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 15:10 Juaks wrote:On October 05 2018 05:33 ruypture wrote:On October 05 2018 05:07 Garrl wrote:
blizzard probably aren't doing so great right now; BFA has possibly one of the worst receptions in MMO history, HS has been dropping off and now has some serious competition in MTGA/Artifact, SC2 and SCR probably aren't bringing in big money, D3 is as good as dead, and did anyone ever watch OW and HOTS esports in the first place?
I think we can expect at the very least a new franchise announced at blizzcon, and possibly WC4 considering they've been patching WC3 for a few months now, possibly to build some sort of anticipation. To be fair, WoD is still widely considered the worst expansion of all time. It was definitely the most poorly received. I think the major problem with BFA is that it regressed in design from Legion, which makes no fucking sense. Same exact thing as Destiny 2, they removed the good systems that were developed later in the last expansion and reverted improved systems to their original, worse iterations. The only thing hearthstone had going for it was its extremely well developed accessibility. As soon as anything came along with comparable user ease of access hearthstone was going down. D3 always made me sad because I think the recent seasons (10 onwards) have been really fun, but I personally don't like PoE. Who knows about OW and HOTS, OW was really fun for the first year, but I haven't been interested since Doomfist's release and even then I had quit before he came out, and did anyone ever play HOTS? I though Cataclysm was the worst expansion, I might be wrong, but either way BFA has been very controversial. D3 is dead. PoE is just a deeper, better game. It must hurt for Blizzard that an Indie company has the better game and the most players on a game based on their franchise. OW has been loosing a lot of track in Korea. It was once the most played and popular game even over League but it dropped below 10% popularity. We'll see with BFA. There are growing pains with every new expansion. If you looked at how many people thought Leggos were terrible and AP grinding makes the game a "job to play" you'd think Legion was the worst expansion ever, now we're in BFA and people are looking fonding in BFA. I think you're overstating how popular PoE is. Its peak playercount is 128k according to GGG: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1847066I'm going to wager Diablo 3 breaks that when new content comes out. Path of Exile's popularity is attributed to the content pipeline, which Blizzard obviously hasn't done in forever because they make money off expansion packs and retail releases.
Its almost as if people overblow everything. You never had to grind AP like crazy. You cant ignore how much all this shit contradicts the endless wishing for Classic. Look at this guys buff bar at the end. I count about 10 consumables. 50g respec cost btw. People dont know what they want
Path of Exile is losing players. About 20k decided to not return for this season. Probably more when you include their client
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TLADT24920 Posts
Best of luck to him! He's passionate, that's for sure.
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Wow, huge news. The guy is a legend, and as others have already said you can tell he has genuine passion for games. Really sad to see him go. He'll be alright though, he has a billion or two in the bank haha
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Sad news but I wanna know one thing - This is not the start of SC2 going downhill is it? Because honestly lately SC2 has been rising up in popularity which is super awesome...
Will the replacement guy support SC2 as much as Mike?
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Godspeed Mike!
![[image loading]](https://gallery.dpcdn.pl/imgd/Video/65511/g_-_-x-_-_-_x20160210114952_1.jpg)
...and for those of you wondering what he'll be doing with all that free time on his hands... 
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Good, maybe Blizzard finally makes it's first good game instead of a moneygrab in over a decade now.
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Thank you for everything. What a great adventure he brought to himself and millions of others.
- NarutO!
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On October 04 2018 08:36 hexhaven wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2018 08:32 Cyro wrote:On October 04 2018 07:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Blizzard has been hemorrhaging MAU's for the last year. OW and Heroes of the Storm being the main culprits. WoW's had a disastrous expansion launch Server problems or design problems?
There's lots of problems with this expansion...
Server-wise, the Auction House has been unusable since 8.0's launch. Even opening the tab takes several minutes at peak times because of how laggy it is.
Azerite traits are poorly designed because they add an additional layer of RNG to an already luck dependent drop system. They're also often the be-all-end-all to optimising your gear. If you get an item level 370 gear piece that has suboptimal azerite traits for instance, it performs much worse than an item level 340 drop with the optimal traits.
Then there's Warfronts, which rotate between Alliance and Horde every two weeks, but this was not communicated to the player base at all. Imagine everyone's shock and horror when Horde players got access to a free and easy item level 370 item right as Mythic Uldir was about to open. Progression raiding has already been dominated by Horde guilds because of historic balance issues with racial abilities, but this tier only got screwed even more.
On October 04 2018 07:47 Psychonian wrote:
So... How much is known about the new guy and and if funding is likely to decrease?
J Allen Brack?
He was the guy that addressed player calls for Vanilla WoW servers with "No, you think you do, but you don't." Something that would later bite him and his company in the ass during the whole Nostalrius controversy.
I don't like him either. He's one of the current WoW team figureheads that represents the rockstar style arrogance of modern Blizzard, alongside people like Watcher, Celestalon, Lore, Holinka, etc.
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On October 05 2018 22:30 hexhaven wrote:He's right, though.
Tens of thousands of people playing legacy servers would beg to differ.
As someone who still plays a level 60 priest, I think I do, and I absolutely do.
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On October 05 2018 22:30 hexhaven wrote:He's right, though.
Tell that to the players who flocked en masse to Nostalrius and propped up its registration numbers to almost a million before Blizzard shut it down - not because it was a free pirate server but because they were sick and fed up of WoD.
As somebody who didn't start playing WoW until early TBC who spent some time on Nost, it really isn't the rose-tinted goggles effect that every modern WoW apologist claims it is. The game was just objectively better back then, even despite class balance being in a terrible spot.
Old school WoW didn't force you to wade through loads of boring, repetitive, immersion-breaking and overly scripted quests that tried to build you up as this final hope for Azeroth like the last few expansions have. Instead, you were an unknown adventurer and the game world felt far more organic and far less contrived. The best part is that you often had the freedom to grind mobs, run dungeons and explore the game world rather than ride the conveyor belt to the next quest hub like you did from Cataclysm onwards. This is because there weren't that many quests around and they actually weren't the most efficient levelling method in the game.
Old school WoW didn't have resource nodes like herbs and ores that would randomly despawn from the game world because you wandered into a different phase of a certain subzone - one of my major complaints with modern WoW that Blizzard still can't be bothered to fix.
Old school WoW had complex stat sheets where almost every primary and secondary stat did something beneficial for your class. Primary stats also had a lot of varied uses unlike in modern WoW where they're an overglorified "make your attacks hit harder" stat. How successful do you think Dungeons & Dragons would have been as a tabletop RPG if your stat sheet looked like this? The answer is 'not very' because tabletop gamers don't want to play Fisher Price™ My First Tabletop RPG.
The issue is that Blizzard have dumbed down the game for the lowest common denominator and alienated the core audience that fell in love with the original version of the game, and I think part of that can be connected to Activision's acquisition of Blizzard back in 2008. Ghostcrawler made a very interesting quote about his time at Blizzard after he joined Riot, where he stated that it was refreshing to work on a game where he didn't have to worry about whether his grandmother could play it.
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