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CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
October 04 2018 18:10 GMT
#81
Thanks for everything Mr. M! All the best to you!

~ The Ultimate Weapon
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17035 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-04 19:37:02
October 04 2018 19:36 GMT
#82
GSL 2018 got announced in the 3rd week of December, 2017. i'm going to start praying for GSL 2019 right now.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-04 20:11:34
October 04 2018 20:07 GMT
#83
blizzard probably aren't doing so great right now; BFA has possibly one of the worst receptions in MMO history, HS has been dropping off and now has some serious competition in MTGA/Artifact, SC2 and SCR probably aren't bringing in big money, D3 is as good as dead, and did anyone ever watch OW and HOTS esports in the first place?

I think we can expect at the very least a new franchise announced at blizzcon, and possibly WC4 considering they've been patching WC3 for a few months now, possibly to build some sort of anticipation.
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-04 21:35:46
October 04 2018 20:31 GMT
#84
Did anyone notice that Brack was named president, but not CEO? So Blizzard no longer has its own CEO. I wonder if that means anything. While Blizzard has ostensibly been an 'equal partner' with Activision, Kotick has always been the one in charge. With Morhaime out, I could see Activision having even greater influence in Blizzard operations.


Edit: I also found the phrasing he used in his statement interesting:
After many years of working with some of the industry’s most talented people to create games and worlds for you to play in, I’ve decided it’s time for someone else to lead Blizzard Entertainment.
ruypture
Profile Joined May 2014
United States367 Posts
October 04 2018 20:33 GMT
#85
On October 05 2018 05:07 Garrl wrote:
blizzard probably aren't doing so great right now; BFA has possibly one of the worst receptions in MMO history, HS has been dropping off and now has some serious competition in MTGA/Artifact, SC2 and SCR probably aren't bringing in big money, D3 is as good as dead, and did anyone ever watch OW and HOTS esports in the first place?

I think we can expect at the very least a new franchise announced at blizzcon, and possibly WC4 considering they've been patching WC3 for a few months now, possibly to build some sort of anticipation.


To be fair, WoD is still widely considered the worst expansion of all time. It was definitely the most poorly received.

I think the major problem with BFA is that it regressed in design from Legion, which makes no fucking sense. Same exact thing as Destiny 2, they removed the good systems that were developed later in the last expansion and reverted improved systems to their original, worse iterations.

The only thing hearthstone had going for it was its extremely well developed accessibility. As soon as anything came along with comparable user ease of access hearthstone was going down.

D3 always made me sad because I think the recent seasons (10 onwards) have been really fun, but I personally don't like PoE.

Who knows about OW and HOTS, OW was really fun for the first year, but I haven't been interested since Doomfist's release and even then I had quit before he came out, and did anyone ever play HOTS?
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NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
October 04 2018 20:36 GMT
#86
You got to be the guy speaking @ Blizzconn. It just wont be the same thing without you, mate.

Anyways, i hope that this is a personal decision, and not because the board doesn't like the company's charts. Blizzard has been the best game provider for the past 3 decades, you are one of the reasons for that.

Good luck in the future and GG!
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
October 04 2018 20:40 GMT
#87
On October 05 2018 05:07 Garrl wrote:
blizzard probably aren't doing so great right now; BFA has possibly one of the worst receptions in MMO history, HS has been dropping off and now has some serious competition in MTGA/Artifact, SC2 and SCR probably aren't bringing in big money, D3 is as good as dead, and did anyone ever watch OW and HOTS esports in the first place?

I think we can expect at the very least a new franchise announced at blizzcon, and possibly WC4 considering they've been patching WC3 for a few months now, possibly to build some sort of anticipation.


Overwatch League has been doing relatively well. Drew 100k-ish viewers throughout the whole first season, and they are adding even more teams for the second season. Expect to see lots of brags on that at blizzcon. I can't speak for the numbers of the actual player base though.

For new games, I wouldn't mind a F2P Diablo 4 to directly compete with Path of Exile.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 04 2018 22:20 GMT
#88
On October 05 2018 05:40 ramask2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 05:07 Garrl wrote:
blizzard probably aren't doing so great right now; BFA has possibly one of the worst receptions in MMO history, HS has been dropping off and now has some serious competition in MTGA/Artifact, SC2 and SCR probably aren't bringing in big money, D3 is as good as dead, and did anyone ever watch OW and HOTS esports in the first place?

I think we can expect at the very least a new franchise announced at blizzcon, and possibly WC4 considering they've been patching WC3 for a few months now, possibly to build some sort of anticipation.


Overwatch League has been doing relatively well. Drew 100k-ish viewers throughout the whole first season

Is that actually good though? The amount of money invested into OWL is on a different magnitude to SC2.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
October 04 2018 23:04 GMT
#89
So we won't have any more of those passionate speeches at big event finals from this one random old nerd, who just happened to actually be the CEO of Blizzard
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
October 04 2018 23:37 GMT
#90
On October 05 2018 07:20 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 05:40 ramask2 wrote:
On October 05 2018 05:07 Garrl wrote:
blizzard probably aren't doing so great right now; BFA has possibly one of the worst receptions in MMO history, HS has been dropping off and now has some serious competition in MTGA/Artifact, SC2 and SCR probably aren't bringing in big money, D3 is as good as dead, and did anyone ever watch OW and HOTS esports in the first place?

I think we can expect at the very least a new franchise announced at blizzcon, and possibly WC4 considering they've been patching WC3 for a few months now, possibly to build some sort of anticipation.


Overwatch League has been doing relatively well. Drew 100k-ish viewers throughout the whole first season

Is that actually good though? The amount of money invested into OWL is on a different magnitude to SC2.


I'm no expert but it's enticing enough to draw in 8 other big investors for the second season. From what I've heard it's doing better than expected for the first season.
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-04 23:59:59
October 04 2018 23:55 GMT
#91
On October 05 2018 00:58 Fango wrote:As far as funding goes, while this is worrying, I don't think people understand how little sc2 actually gets as far as esports go. OWL has had literally hundreds of millions put into it. Blizz put a few million into sc2 every year ($2M for prize money, and then whatever they happen to contribute to production), and they even get a large amount back from warchests, the latest of which sold $1M worth in the first 2 weeks.

Simply put, Overwatch is more popular, but not by 100x, which is what you'd expect if funding and viewership were directly correlated. The latest csgo major peaked at like 500K viewers, I'd expect sc2 at blizzcon to reach at least 25% of that. Not bad given how much more money is in the former (although the profit valve make from cs esports is ridiculous).


Several hundred million was not spent on Overwatch League this year. Yes, the franchise partners and Twitch have combined paid ActiBlizz several hundred for rights, but that's not the same as operating expenses. There's no way they are burning anywhere near that much money annually (unless OWL expands massively). The reason for franchise buy-ins is so Blizzard doesn't have to front the full investment AND they get partners with a strong vested interest in the success of the league. At the same time, it's absolutely a gamble.They aren't putting this money in thinking it will stay the same or grow a little. They expect OWL to grow significantly.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17035 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-05 00:49:18
October 05 2018 00:26 GMT
#92
On October 05 2018 08:55 Kalera wrote:
Yes, the franchise partners and Twitch have combined paid ActiBlizz several hundred for rights,


there are no mentions of 'rights fees' in any of these Blizzard OWL deals. no one knows if twitch.tv paid anything at all.
https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/overwatch-leaguetm-and-twitch-sign-landmark-multi-year-media

this is an example of a "rights deal" that includes financial #s provided by the NHL. Its not `reported upon` or `speculated` or `sources tell us`. The league itself makes the announcement.
https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-rogers-announce-landmark-12-year-deal/c-693152

ATVI refuses to report any #s ... because the #s are crap. This is standard ATVI operating procedure.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Juaks
Profile Joined June 2010
United States384 Posts
October 05 2018 06:10 GMT
#93
On October 05 2018 05:33 ruypture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 05:07 Garrl wrote:
blizzard probably aren't doing so great right now; BFA has possibly one of the worst receptions in MMO history, HS has been dropping off and now has some serious competition in MTGA/Artifact, SC2 and SCR probably aren't bringing in big money, D3 is as good as dead, and did anyone ever watch OW and HOTS esports in the first place?

I think we can expect at the very least a new franchise announced at blizzcon, and possibly WC4 considering they've been patching WC3 for a few months now, possibly to build some sort of anticipation.


To be fair, WoD is still widely considered the worst expansion of all time. It was definitely the most poorly received.

I think the major problem with BFA is that it regressed in design from Legion, which makes no fucking sense. Same exact thing as Destiny 2, they removed the good systems that were developed later in the last expansion and reverted improved systems to their original, worse iterations.

The only thing hearthstone had going for it was its extremely well developed accessibility. As soon as anything came along with comparable user ease of access hearthstone was going down.

D3 always made me sad because I think the recent seasons (10 onwards) have been really fun, but I personally don't like PoE.

Who knows about OW and HOTS, OW was really fun for the first year, but I haven't been interested since Doomfist's release and even then I had quit before he came out, and did anyone ever play HOTS?


I though Cataclysm was the worst expansion, I might be wrong, but either way BFA has been very controversial.

D3 is dead. PoE is just a deeper, better game. It must hurt for Blizzard that an Indie company has the better game and the most players on a game based on their franchise.

OW has been loosing a lot of track in Korea. It was once the most played and popular game even over League but it dropped below 10% popularity.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
October 05 2018 06:46 GMT
#94
On October 05 2018 15:10 Juaks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2018 05:33 ruypture wrote:
On October 05 2018 05:07 Garrl wrote:
blizzard probably aren't doing so great right now; BFA has possibly one of the worst receptions in MMO history, HS has been dropping off and now has some serious competition in MTGA/Artifact, SC2 and SCR probably aren't bringing in big money, D3 is as good as dead, and did anyone ever watch OW and HOTS esports in the first place?

I think we can expect at the very least a new franchise announced at blizzcon, and possibly WC4 considering they've been patching WC3 for a few months now, possibly to build some sort of anticipation.


To be fair, WoD is still widely considered the worst expansion of all time. It was definitely the most poorly received.

I think the major problem with BFA is that it regressed in design from Legion, which makes no fucking sense. Same exact thing as Destiny 2, they removed the good systems that were developed later in the last expansion and reverted improved systems to their original, worse iterations.

The only thing hearthstone had going for it was its extremely well developed accessibility. As soon as anything came along with comparable user ease of access hearthstone was going down.

D3 always made me sad because I think the recent seasons (10 onwards) have been really fun, but I personally don't like PoE.

Who knows about OW and HOTS, OW was really fun for the first year, but I haven't been interested since Doomfist's release and even then I had quit before he came out, and did anyone ever play HOTS?


I though Cataclysm was the worst expansion, I might be wrong, but either way BFA has been very controversial.

D3 is dead. PoE is just a deeper, better game. It must hurt for Blizzard that an Indie company has the better game and the most players on a game based on their franchise.

OW has been loosing a lot of track in Korea. It was once the most played and popular game even over League but it dropped below 10% popularity.


We'll see with BFA. There are growing pains with every new expansion. If you looked at how many people thought Leggos were terrible and AP grinding makes the game a "job to play" you'd think Legion was the worst expansion ever, now we're in BFA and people are looking fonding in BFA.

I think you're overstating how popular PoE is. Its peak playercount is 128k according to GGG: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1847066

I'm going to wager Diablo 3 breaks that when new content comes out. Path of Exile's popularity is attributed to the content pipeline, which Blizzard obviously hasn't done in forever because they make money off expansion packs and retail releases.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
October 05 2018 08:24 GMT
#95
didn't they replace the name "Battle.net" for something else? I guess the new name never really stuck with me. and apparently not with mike either...
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
October 05 2018 08:39 GMT
#96
Just out of curiosity, how did he manage to acquire a net worth of nearly two billion dollar? Does that have to do with stocks and the Activision, Blizzard merger?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
October 05 2018 08:54 GMT
#97
On October 05 2018 17:24 MrMischelito wrote:
didn't they replace the name "Battle.net" for something else? I guess the new name never really stuck with me. and apparently not with mike either...

They changed their plans. Instead of "Blizzard app" or "Battle.net" It's "Blizzard Battle.net".

On October 05 2018 17:39 Grumbels wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how did he manage to acquire a net worth of nearly two billion dollar? Does that have to do with stocks and the Activision, Blizzard merger?

That's not legit.

"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
ihatevideogames
Profile Joined August 2015
570 Posts
October 05 2018 10:51 GMT
#98
Even if I didn't like anything Blizz did in recent years, the guy is still a legend.
That said, this is a clear sign that Activision-Blizzard is about to become ACTIVISION-blizzard.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
October 05 2018 10:56 GMT
#99
I just realized his successor is mister "you think you do but you don't".
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1920 Posts
October 05 2018 11:29 GMT
#100
On October 05 2018 19:51 ihatevideogames wrote:
Even if I didn't like anything Blizz did in recent years, the guy is still a legend.
That said, this is a clear sign that Activision-Blizzard is about to become ACTIVISION-blizzard.


Exactly my thoughts, Blizzard has been on a downward spiral for the almost the last decade now, it's gonna get even worse now. Generic cash grab AAA developer incoming. Best wishes to Mike, though!
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