In one of the gutsiest performances in GSL history, Classic scored two consecutive reverse-sweeps to lift the GSL Super Tournament 2 trophy. Behind 0-2 to Dark in the semifinals and 0-3 to to sOs in the grand finals, Classic showed that he had nerves of steel to reverse-sweep both opponents and claim the 12,000,000 KRW prize.
Classic had started the 2018 season of competitive StarCraft looking like potentially the best player in the world, but suffered a string of deflating defeats in crucial playoff matches at GSL Code S, WESG, and IEM Katowice. With his impressive showing in the GSL Super Tournament, Classic has proved that he is not to be overlooked going into the WCS Global Finals at BlizzCon.
Despite suffering such an improbable defeat in the finals, sOs may have emerged from the Super Tournament as its biggest winner, clinching the sixteenth and final Global Finals spot with his runner-up performance. Before the finals, sOs had already confirmed his Global Finals spot after defeating fellow contender Solar in a semifinals deathmatch. sOs guaranteed himself at least $14,000 for qualifying for BlizzCon—more than the first place prize for the Super Tournament.
Classic's clutch display brought a close to GSL's 2018 season, where Maru won all three of the flagship Code S tournaments while Stats, Classic, and Serral won championships in short-duration events (Super Tournaments 1 & 2, and GSL vs. The World, respectively).
I'm still feeling like sOs will win Blizzcon against Maru in the grand finals. That would be epic - sOs going for his third Blizzcon and once again he's against the person that everyone is hoping will win. Once again, sOs could destroy a beautiful storyline with his innovative protoss strategies.
Hopefully we get lucky and they're on opposite sides of the bracket.
I'm super hyped for BlizzCon right now. Last year, I didn't even watch all the games because only a select players I like to watch did make it but this year...it's gonna be mental.
skimmed the games, but the finals looked insane, ill have to go back and watch properly with sound. as for the ZvPs - as a zerg main who offraces toss, both zergs were outplayed. GG
On October 01 2018 10:29 brickrd wrote: skimmed the games, but the finals looked insane, ill have to go back and watch properly with sound. as for the ZvPs - as a zerg main who offraces toss, both zergs were outplayed. GG
They were all close series. If it had been the other way around where Protoss got the lead but lost eventually, I wouldn't be complaining too.
On October 01 2018 11:05 Fezvezfez wrote: Please, can a kind soul tell me which were the best games of the tournament?
I mean if you're just going to watch one game I'd recommend Solar vs sOs game 5, there were some funny shenanigans in that game. Maru vs Rogue was fun iirc - Maru's TvZ is entertaining right now in my opinion.
On October 01 2018 11:05 Fezvezfez wrote: Please, can a kind soul tell me which were the best games of the tournament?
I mean if you're just going to watch one game I'd recommend Solar vs sOs game 5, there were some funny shenanigans in that game. Maru vs Rogue was fun iirc - Maru's TvZ is entertaining right now in my opinion.
Also check out Game 3 of TY vs Creator. Cat and mouse game of mass BC/tactical jump/yamato vs. mass Tempest/recalls. From memory TY had 23 battlecruisers at one stage of the game.
On October 01 2018 11:05 Fezvezfez wrote: Please, can a kind soul tell me which were the best games of the tournament?
I mean if you're just going to watch one game I'd recommend Solar vs sOs game 5, there were some funny shenanigans in that game. Maru vs Rogue was fun iirc - Maru's TvZ is entertaining right now in my opinion.
I would honestly rather say Rogue just played terrible in that series. Ofc Maru played well, but it was more like Rogue was completely out of his form in these days. He usually almost never lose by Maru like that 0-3.
On October 01 2018 11:05 Fezvezfez wrote: Please, can a kind soul tell me which were the best games of the tournament?
I mean if you're just going to watch one game I'd recommend Solar vs sOs game 5, there were some funny shenanigans in that game. Maru vs Rogue was fun iirc - Maru's TvZ is entertaining right now in my opinion.
Also check out Game 3 of TY vs Creator. Cat and mouse game of mass BC/tactical jump/yamato vs. mass Tempest/recalls. From memory TY had 23 battlecruisers at one stage of the game.
some people would consider that game the absolute worst of what SC2 has to offer, but if you genuinely love 50 minute games where both players spend significant amounts of time clicking their gigantic air armies into the corner of their main base then yes you might like it
On October 01 2018 11:05 Fezvezfez wrote: Please, can a kind soul tell me which were the best games of the tournament?
I mean if you're just going to watch one game I'd recommend Solar vs sOs game 5, there were some funny shenanigans in that game. Maru vs Rogue was fun iirc - Maru's TvZ is entertaining right now in my opinion.
Also check out Game 3 of TY vs Creator. Cat and mouse game of mass BC/tactical jump/yamato vs. mass Tempest/recalls. From memory TY had 23 battlecruisers at one stage of the game.
some people would consider that game the absolute worst of what SC2 has to offer, but if you genuinely love 50 minute games where both players spend significant amounts of time clicking their gigantic air armies into the corner of their main base then yes you might like it
Yeah, I personally would recommend game 1. I thought that was the better ones of the series.
On October 01 2018 11:05 Fezvezfez wrote: Please, can a kind soul tell me which were the best games of the tournament?
I mean if you're just going to watch one game I'd recommend Solar vs sOs game 5, there were some funny shenanigans in that game. Maru vs Rogue was fun iirc - Maru's TvZ is entertaining right now in my opinion.
Also check out Game 3 of TY vs Creator. Cat and mouse game of mass BC/tactical jump/yamato vs. mass Tempest/recalls. From memory TY had 23 battlecruisers at one stage of the game.
some people would consider that game the absolute worst of what SC2 has to offer, but if you genuinely love 50 minute games where both players spend significant amounts of time clicking their gigantic air armies into the corner of their main base then yes you might like it
Well depends in what you like about SC2. When you love how players think strategically ahead because they can lose the game doing the one bad discussion and how they are able to come up with attack strategies on the fly then you might love this game.
Congratulations to Classic, he still doesn’t get the credit his reseults deserve.
Super stoked for sOs too! Blizzcon just isn’t the same without him. Also cool that the spot was decided by a series rather than by other results
Judging from the finals I think sOs spent more time preparing for PvT/Z, and looking at his side of the bracket, I think it was a pretty smart move. Having all three final spot contenders on the same half meant there was only one possible PvP before the finals. If he had ended up facing Stats or impact, then Solar and Trap would have already been out. So provided he made it past Keen and Rogue/Maru to the semis, all that was left was a direct match to decide it.
Congrats to Classic for winning! Quite an insane day with only reverse all-kills, definitely awesome for Classic to be able to come in clutch against his arch-nemesis and the PvP god in sOs.
At the beginning of the year he was praised as the #1 player, but he could not live quite up to the expectations. Then he faded away from the spotlight a bit, just to come back now with a bang. An experience like this right before Blizzcon might give him that little bit extra what he needs to win in Anaheim. I´m not a fan of Classic by any means, but when you reverse sweep the semis AND the finals, that must be a great confidence boost, and it makes the peope cheer for you. I´m looking forward to his performance at Blizzcon
the moment Tastosis talked about Classics chances after game 3 and that its nearly impossible for him to come back at that score ("especially against sOs") i just knew he will win this thing #Artosiscurse
Watching it live I was stoked for classic, but pretty sad for sOs (soul of sky????). Thinking about it now though, SOS kicked ass in the super tournament and made it to blizzcon, so that's nothing to be sad about. Good finals
Happy for classic. Arguably the best PvT in the world, Top 2-3 PvP, and he seems to be getting a lot better at PvZ.
Sadly, being the best PvT player in the world STILL doesn't protect you from Maru, PvP can go either way at the highest level no matter how good you are, and simply improving in PvZ isn't good enough against the best 2 Zergs in the world. RIP classic, please prove me wrong, but I don't think he makes it to the finals no matter how the seeding plays out.
Damn, after my few years hiatus from Starcraft 2, I thought that I will not know most of names in the business ... but Chintoss is still rockin' and mad $cientist $o$ gonna be at Blizzcon. Great to be back.
ok but is anyone else a *bit* disappointed in sOs for going blink stalker like 3 games in a row and losing every time he did? I feel like he kind of threw it away... the build's weaknesses were clear from the start; classic just made an extra couple immortals/archons and ended up overpowering him. it was kind of corny :/
On October 01 2018 23:44 Tempest wrote: Happy for classic. Arguably the best PvT in the world, Top 2-3 PvP, and he seems to be getting a lot better at PvZ.
Sadly, being the best PvT player in the world STILL doesn't protect you from Maru, PvP can go either way at the highest level no matter how good you are, and simply improving in PvZ isn't good enough against the best 2 Zergs in the world. RIP classic, please prove me wrong, but I don't think he makes it to the finals no matter how the seeding plays out.
Actually, I think that sOs showed how to dismantle Maru's style. The last couple of GSL's, he won just about every TvP through proxies. sOs was like, "Make a couple of shield batteries, and you get ahead." I think Korean protosses simply didn't know how good shield batteries are against Maru for what they cost, and now he's not going to be quite as dominant.
Don't get me wrong, he's still a force to be reckoned with, but sOs showed that he's definitely beatable.
On October 01 2018 23:44 Tempest wrote: Happy for classic. Arguably the best PvT in the world, Top 2-3 PvP, and he seems to be getting a lot better at PvZ.
Sadly, being the best PvT player in the world STILL doesn't protect you from Maru, PvP can go either way at the highest level no matter how good you are, and simply improving in PvZ isn't good enough against the best 2 Zergs in the world. RIP classic, please prove me wrong, but I don't think he makes it to the finals no matter how the seeding plays out.
Actually, I think that sOs showed how to dismantle Maru's style. The last couple of GSL's, he won just about every TvP through proxies.
In season 2 he went 12-2 in TvP and only proxied on one map.
On October 01 2018 23:44 Tempest wrote: Happy for classic. Arguably the best PvT in the world, Top 2-3 PvP, and he seems to be getting a lot better at PvZ.
Sadly, being the best PvT player in the world STILL doesn't protect you from Maru, PvP can go either way at the highest level no matter how good you are, and simply improving in PvZ isn't good enough against the best 2 Zergs in the world. RIP classic, please prove me wrong, but I don't think he makes it to the finals no matter how the seeding plays out.
Actually, I think that sOs showed how to dismantle Maru's style. The last couple of GSL's, he won just about every TvP through proxies.
In season 2 he went 12-2 in TvP and only proxied on one map.
On October 01 2018 23:44 Tempest wrote: Happy for classic. Arguably the best PvT in the world, Top 2-3 PvP, and he seems to be getting a lot better at PvZ.
Sadly, being the best PvT player in the world STILL doesn't protect you from Maru, PvP can go either way at the highest level no matter how good you are, and simply improving in PvZ isn't good enough against the best 2 Zergs in the world. RIP classic, please prove me wrong, but I don't think he makes it to the finals no matter how the seeding plays out.
Actually, I think that sOs showed how to dismantle Maru's style. The last couple of GSL's, he won just about every TvP through proxies.
In season 2 he went 12-2 in TvP and only proxied on one map.
Just look at how he's played against Zest.
Did you miss when he 4-1'd Classic and 4-0'd Zest without proxies every game?
On October 01 2018 23:44 Tempest wrote: Happy for classic. Arguably the best PvT in the world, Top 2-3 PvP, and he seems to be getting a lot better at PvZ.
Sadly, being the best PvT player in the world STILL doesn't protect you from Maru, PvP can go either way at the highest level no matter how good you are, and simply improving in PvZ isn't good enough against the best 2 Zergs in the world. RIP classic, please prove me wrong, but I don't think he makes it to the finals no matter how the seeding plays out.
Actually, I think that sOs showed how to dismantle Maru's style. The last couple of GSL's, he won just about every TvP through proxies.
In season 2 he went 12-2 in TvP and only proxied on one map.
Just look at how he's played against Zest.
Did you miss when he 4-1'd Classic and 4-0'd Zest without proxies every game?
I guess I'm clumping widow mine drop-centric play in with proxy stuffs. But you have to admit he's been playing cheesy. Especially against zest the 2nd time they met in GSL.
I remember the 4-1 against classic being especially solid
On October 01 2018 23:44 Tempest wrote: Happy for classic. Arguably the best PvT in the world, Top 2-3 PvP, and he seems to be getting a lot better at PvZ.
Sadly, being the best PvT player in the world STILL doesn't protect you from Maru, PvP can go either way at the highest level no matter how good you are, and simply improving in PvZ isn't good enough against the best 2 Zergs in the world. RIP classic, please prove me wrong, but I don't think he makes it to the finals no matter how the seeding plays out.
Actually, I think that sOs showed how to dismantle Maru's style. The last couple of GSL's, he won just about every TvP through proxies.
In season 2 he went 12-2 in TvP and only proxied on one map.
Just look at how he's played against Zest.
Did you miss when he 4-1'd Classic and 4-0'd Zest without proxies every game?
I guess I'm clumping widow mine drop-centric play in with proxy stuffs. But you have to admit he's been playing cheesy. Especially against zest the 2nd time they met in GSL.
I remember the 4-1 against classic being especially solid
Must ignore games when raven still made late game tvp viable tho..no longer a possibility. Going to 100 still be a proxyfest at blizzcon ..hopefully sos didnt crack the code but it sure looked like it..was inevitable anyway.. toss wins blizzcon..sos or classic calling it now lol.
I won't say Maru lost on purpose, but it didn't look like he played like it was an ordinary GSL. He's probably happy with three GSLs and sOs had a shot at Blizzcon, but needed to get past Maru. Not that sOs can't beat Maru, but he did not look terribly engaged.
Cool finals with all seven games, even though it was PvP. A PvP with sOs is often a lot of fun. Now he gets another try at Blizzcon. He's been up and down a few years now, but can never be written off. It remains to be seen if he can pull of the wins needed to get deep in Blizzcon.
On October 01 2018 23:44 Tempest wrote: Happy for classic. Arguably the best PvT in the world, Top 2-3 PvP, and he seems to be getting a lot better at PvZ.
Sadly, being the best PvT player in the world STILL doesn't protect you from Maru, PvP can go either way at the highest level no matter how good you are, and simply improving in PvZ isn't good enough against the best 2 Zergs in the world. RIP classic, please prove me wrong, but I don't think he makes it to the finals no matter how the seeding plays out.
Lets review Classic's PvZ this year shall we?
Serral (1-1): Lost 1-3 (WESG 3rd place match), won 3-0 (IEM)
Dark (2-3): Won 2-0 (GSL S2), Lost 2-3 (GSL vs The World), Won 3-2 (ST 2), Lost 1-3 (ST 1), Lost 1-3 (WESG)
Rouge (0-1): Lost 0-4 (IEM)
I may be missing a match here, but against the top zergs this year (Dark, Serral, Rouge, soO) Classic is 3-5. Against the lesser zergs, I didn't count but his only blemish that I saw was GSL S3 second match against Reynor. Other than that, he always wins (including his first match against Reynor in that tournament and their previous encounter at WESG).
Basically, Classic is not dominating the top zergs but they are not dominating him. It's pretty close, and if he had beaten Dark at WESG he'd be 4-3 vs Zergs this year since he wouldn't have played Serral. This myth that his PvZ is attrocious right now needs to end.
On October 01 2018 09:54 err0r33 wrote: Maru looked a bit off versus SoS.. or was it in purpose to not be fully be sharp for a match versus a team mate ?
Winning against Maru didn't help sOs at all in terms of Blizzcon. At this point he just had to prevent Solar from winning the tournament. It doesn't matter if Solar would've been defeated by sOs himself or by Maru or by Classic in the finals.
Thinking about it, I could imagine that Maru specifically prepared for Zerg in order to defeat solar in semifinals for sOs' sake if he'd defeated sOs. Preparing for zerg was a good thing anyway because Maru had to defeat Rogue in his first round. Thus he obviously wasn't as prepared for protoss. And perhaps Rogue didn't look very good because he also prepared for ZvZ in case of him making it to the semifinals. I really like my little conspiracy :D
On October 01 2018 23:44 Tempest wrote: Happy for classic. Arguably the best PvT in the world, Top 2-3 PvP, and he seems to be getting a lot better at PvZ.
Sadly, being the best PvT player in the world STILL doesn't protect you from Maru, PvP can go either way at the highest level no matter how good you are, and simply improving in PvZ isn't good enough against the best 2 Zergs in the world. RIP classic, please prove me wrong, but I don't think he makes it to the finals no matter how the seeding plays out.
Actually, I think that sOs showed how to dismantle Maru's style. The last couple of GSL's, he won just about every TvP through proxies. sOs was like, "Make a couple of shield batteries, and you get ahead." I think Korean protosses simply didn't know how good shield batteries are against Maru for what they cost, and now he's not going to be quite as dominant.
Don't get me wrong, he's still a force to be reckoned with, but sOs showed that he's definitely beatable.
Bingo.
I think everyone else pretty much covered the reply im about to say lol, but I agree with you, the thing is Maru and TY playing standard, Non-Proxy playstyles are still a threat.
While I think his PvP is phenomenal, sOs just demonstrated hes not a pushover, Stats PvP is also phenomenal, and Zest is almost as unpredictable as sOs as to how well hes gonna play that day. any PvP matchup between these 4 will have classic barely favored, if not just flat even.
On October 01 2018 23:44 Tempest wrote: Happy for classic. Arguably the best PvT in the world, Top 2-3 PvP, and he seems to be getting a lot better at PvZ.
Sadly, being the best PvT player in the world STILL doesn't protect you from Maru, PvP can go either way at the highest level no matter how good you are, and simply improving in PvZ isn't good enough against the best 2 Zergs in the world. RIP classic, please prove me wrong, but I don't think he makes it to the finals no matter how the seeding plays out.
Lets review Classic's PvZ this year shall we?
Serral (1-1): Lost 1-3 (WESG 3rd place match), won 3-0 (IEM)
Dark (2-3): Won 2-0 (GSL S2), Lost 2-3 (GSL vs The World), Won 3-2 (ST 2), Lost 1-3 (ST 1), Lost 1-3 (WESG)
Rouge (0-1): Lost 0-4 (IEM)
I may be missing a match here, but against the top zergs this year (Dark, Serral, Rouge, soO) Classic is 3-5. Against the lesser zergs, I didn't count but his only blemish that I saw was GSL S3 second match against Reynor. Other than that, he always wins (including his first match against Reynor in that tournament and their previous encounter at WESG).
Basically, Classic is not dominating the top zergs but they are not dominating him. It's pretty close, and if he had beaten Dark at WESG he'd be 4-3 vs Zergs this year since he wouldn't have played Serral. This myth that his PvZ is attrocious right now needs to end.
Nonono, im not claiming its atrocious. Hes vastly improved at it, but the fact remains it IS his weakest matchup, and against Rogue and Serral I think hes the underdog. Not unwinnable, but if he played each of them 100 times I think he wins ~40 matches. I place him Easily top 2 in PvT, Top 2 in PvP, and not even top 5 in PvZ (including foreigner protoss players). Its well known PvZ is his only actual weakness, even if that weakness has been shored up considerably from a few months ago.
Can't be more happy with the results. Two of my favorite tosses in finals, Classic finally grabbed a trophy years after... may be starleague in 2015... and sOs is back in Blizzcon. I don't know if anyone of them can pick the grand finals in Anaheim, but they are really needed for the game to make it more exciting in the final stage. Neutral fans should be satisfied too I'm sure. To be honest, those were not flawless matches. They were full with tiny mistakes but the reverse scenarios made this tournament more memorable than many others. It is strange because I was not that excited as I'd expect if I see them in a final match. Dark started the Super Tournament II really great and then he choked again which is a dissapointing for my favorite zerg. Kind of strange because Gumiho played well this year and just one loss from Creator make him losing tickets to Anaheim.
EPT
Classic scored two consecutive reverse-sweeps to lift the GSL Super Tournament 2 trophy. Behind 0-2 to ![[image loading]](/staff/Waxangel/GSL/2018/st2table2.png)
