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TY defeats Neeb and advances to Code S finals

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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
September 05 2018 13:22 GMT
#1
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2018 GSL Code S: Season 3

(Wiki)TY earned his return to the Code S grand finals after over two years of waiting, defeating a plucky (Wiki)Neeb 4-2 in a thrilling semifinal match. TY had last reached the Code S finals in Season 1 of 2016, where he lost to Zest by a 2-4 scoreline.

Neeb—an underdog for the entirety of his Code S run—looked like he would beat the odds again when he jumped ahead to a 2-1 lead. TY continued the chain of proxy-builds that had helped him defeat Stats and sOs in the round-of-16, but Neeb seemed better prepared than his illustrious peers.

However, a thrilling brawl on 16-bit completely changed the tone of the series, with TY able to fight back from an early deficit and earn a draw. Neeb appeared to lose his edge after such an exhausting game, losing the re-game and the following two matches to end the series.

The Code S semifinals will continue with Maru vs Zest on Saturday, Sep 08 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

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lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
392 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 13:44:52
September 05 2018 13:44 GMT
#2
Sad. One recall a bit earlier might have changed everything... but that's Starcraft for you I guess.

GG to both of them and good luck for TY. If it's Maru next he's gonna need it.
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3720 Posts
September 05 2018 13:58 GMT
#3
dat missed recall costed him the series
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medium_AI
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway42 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 14:02:21
September 05 2018 14:01 GMT
#4
He really made it interesting. I was afraid he was going to be bopped, but he proved that he deserved to be in ro4, and he also would have deserved to be in the finals if he had played it just a little bit different. A real show of force and proof that his run was no fluke
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
September 05 2018 14:23 GMT
#5
That series was great. Gratz to TY.
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Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
September 05 2018 14:25 GMT
#6
Classic scenario where a foreigner goes full foreigner after throwing a game he could've won
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 05 2018 14:25 GMT
#7
It's funny how the GSL banner at the top of the post shows Maru and 3 foreigners most clearly - looks like this GSL is going to Korea once more
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 14:39:31
September 05 2018 14:31 GMT
#8
neeb looked tactically outmatched, but the disruptor play was cool. what i like about disruptor pvt is that while most terrans try to gain advantages by creating efficient, chaotic engagements with cost effective bio units, a disruptor-based defense forces terran to commit screen attention and APM to every place he's harassing. a lot of terran's strength comes from bleed damage when protoss is trying to control two fronts

the dreamcatcher 4gate was something truly special though. try to 4gate into a scouted one base play, fail the attack while your opponent makes two CC's, fall back, take a gold base, then try to attack late after expanding. wow.

anyway, hope zest wins. the last thing GSL needs is the worst mirror matchup representing a finals.
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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 14:42:54
September 05 2018 14:42 GMT
#9
On September 05 2018 23:31 brickrd wrote:

anyway, hope zest wins. the last thing GSL needs is the worst mirror matchup representing a finals.


That's not really possible without any Zergs in the semis is it?
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RandomAccount#399514
Profile Joined February 2017
Spain53 Posts
September 05 2018 14:42 GMT
#10
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
September 05 2018 14:48 GMT
#11
On September 05 2018 23:31 brickrd wrote:
anyway, hope zest wins. the last thing GSL needs is the worst mirror matchup representing a finals.

You think Maru vs TY would be worse than TY proxying Zest 7 games straight?
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DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 14:59:58
September 05 2018 14:53 GMT
#12
Yah TVT is the most tolerable mirror imo but would almost always prefer non mirror..except for in the current state of tvp..honestly thrilling would have been a good adjective to use for these games the first time maru did it multiple months ago. I think nauseating is a much better one now. This never ending proxy sleezefest is a manifeststion a very broken matchup.
Terran cant hold aggro proxy builds from Toss with FE builds:
Toss cant deal with mid game pressure vs. Terran FE builds:
Terran cant keep up with toss with defensive macro builds:
= non stop fuckfest where viewers dont learn shit except how to mind fuck someone. NOT THRILLED

P.s. not bitching at OP i understand the need for TL to perpetuate the caster type hype train but you can even hear it in tastosis voice when they are casting that they are disappointed lol.
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 15:11:25
September 05 2018 14:53 GMT
#13
On September 05 2018 23:48 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2018 23:31 brickrd wrote:
anyway, hope zest wins. the last thing GSL needs is the worst mirror matchup representing a finals.

You think Maru vs TY would be worse than TY proxying Zest 7 games straight?


LOL this 100x this
Its like real life idiocracy.
Proxy isnt supposed to BE the meta LOL.
Its supposed to be mixed in as a risk you take to throw off ur opp. Nobody from blizzard saying shit tho..so must be cool.
Ishmael
Profile Joined June 2016
92 Posts
September 05 2018 15:00 GMT
#14
TY played a lot like classic polt on 16bit, I thought
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33699 Posts
September 05 2018 15:02 GMT
#15
On September 05 2018 23:25 Bagration wrote:
It's funny how the GSL banner at the top of the post shows Maru and 3 foreigners most clearly - looks like this GSL is going to Korea once more


hey, it's their graphic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
September 05 2018 15:20 GMT
#16
Haven't watched SC2 in a while. It is quite disappointing if proxy is the Terran meta. The main point of LOTV's increase of workers is to cut out super-early cheeses and escalate the action into mid-game quicker. Mission fail?

There's nothing wrong with early game harass and cheese being still viable. But it's a bit unfair if only a specific race can pull them off. I miss ling pool rushes
gg no re thx
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
September 05 2018 15:33 GMT
#17
On September 06 2018 00:20 RKC wrote:
Haven't watched SC2 in a while. It is quite disappointing if proxy is the Terran meta. The main point of LOTV's increase of workers is to cut out super-early cheeses and escalate the action into mid-game quicker. Mission fail?

There's nothing wrong with early game harass and cheese being still viable. But it's a bit unfair if only a specific race can pull them off. I miss ling pool rushes


Arguably, the proxy meta is a response to the fact that Protoss have gotten really good at defending, especially with the strength shield batteries give. Protoss can cut a lot of corners and get fast third double upgrades in many games. To counter that Terrans are aggressive to force toss to be less greedy. Another note is that just like with 3 rax reapers, many terrans have learned how to transition well so it's not as committed
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
September 05 2018 15:49 GMT
#18
On September 05 2018 23:25 Bagration wrote:
It's funny how the GSL banner at the top of the post shows Maru and 3 foreigners most clearly - looks like this GSL is going to Korea once more

At least one of those foreigners is Harry Potter.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
September 05 2018 16:05 GMT
#19
On September 06 2018 00:33 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 00:20 RKC wrote:
Haven't watched SC2 in a while. It is quite disappointing if proxy is the Terran meta. The main point of LOTV's increase of workers is to cut out super-early cheeses and escalate the action into mid-game quicker. Mission fail?

There's nothing wrong with early game harass and cheese being still viable. But it's a bit unfair if only a specific race can pull them off. I miss ling pool rushes


Arguably, the proxy meta is a response to the fact that Protoss have gotten really good at defending, especially with the strength shield batteries give. Protoss can cut a lot of corners and get fast third double upgrades in many games. To counter that Terrans are aggressive to force toss to be less greedy. Another note is that just like with 3 rax reapers, many terrans have learned how to transition well so it's not as committed


So 2-base drop harass or tank push is no longer viable? Sorry too sound ignorant, but I'm genuinely amazed how the meta has changed this year...
gg no re thx
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
September 05 2018 16:09 GMT
#20
On September 06 2018 01:05 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 00:33 Parrek wrote:
On September 06 2018 00:20 RKC wrote:
Haven't watched SC2 in a while. It is quite disappointing if proxy is the Terran meta. The main point of LOTV's increase of workers is to cut out super-early cheeses and escalate the action into mid-game quicker. Mission fail?

There's nothing wrong with early game harass and cheese being still viable. But it's a bit unfair if only a specific race can pull them off. I miss ling pool rushes


Arguably, the proxy meta is a response to the fact that Protoss have gotten really good at defending, especially with the strength shield batteries give. Protoss can cut a lot of corners and get fast third double upgrades in many games. To counter that Terrans are aggressive to force toss to be less greedy. Another note is that just like with 3 rax reapers, many terrans have learned how to transition well so it's not as committed


So 2-base drop harass or tank push is no longer viable? Sorry too sound ignorant, but I'm genuinely amazed how the meta has changed this year...

It's not considered optimal, but not totally unviable either. For example a big problem with tank pushing is that Protoss can have charge done before you siege them in a place that's truly uncomfortable.
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