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Sad. One recall a bit earlier might have changed everything... but that's Starcraft for you I guess.
GG to both of them and good luck for TY. If it's Maru next he's gonna need it.
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Italy3209 Posts
dat missed recall costed him the series
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He really made it interesting. I was afraid he was going to be bopped, but he proved that he deserved to be in ro4, and he also would have deserved to be in the finals if he had played it just a little bit different. A real show of force and proof that his run was no fluke
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That series was great. Gratz to TY.
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Classic scenario where a foreigner goes full foreigner after throwing a game he could've won
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It's funny how the GSL banner at the top of the post shows Maru and 3 foreigners most clearly - looks like this GSL is going to Korea once more
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neeb looked tactically outmatched, but the disruptor play was cool. what i like about disruptor pvt is that while most terrans try to gain advantages by creating efficient, chaotic engagements with cost effective bio units, a disruptor-based defense forces terran to commit screen attention and APM to every place he's harassing. a lot of terran's strength comes from bleed damage when protoss is trying to control two fronts
the dreamcatcher 4gate was something truly special though. try to 4gate into a scouted one base play, fail the attack while your opponent makes two CC's, fall back, take a gold base, then try to attack late after expanding. wow.
anyway, hope zest wins. the last thing GSL needs is the worst mirror matchup representing a finals.
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On September 05 2018 23:31 brickrd wrote:
anyway, hope zest wins. the last thing GSL needs is the worst mirror matchup representing a finals.
That's not really possible without any Zergs in the semis is it?
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Honestly, i feel everyday like Neeb on last game, losing to that 2 ciclone with SCV push again, again and again.
Also dreamcatcher game without robo on that allin or transition... i was hoping more from Neeb, at least know how to play but i´m still the same
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On September 05 2018 23:31 brickrd wrote:
anyway, hope zest wins. the last thing GSL needs is the worst mirror matchup representing a finals.
You think Maru vs TY would be worse than TY proxying Zest 7 games straight?
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Yah TVT is the most tolerable mirror imo but would almost always prefer non mirror..except for in the current state of tvp..honestly thrilling would have been a good adjective to use for these games the first time maru did it multiple months ago. I think nauseating is a much better one now. This never ending proxy sleezefest is a manifeststion a very broken matchup.
Terran cant hold aggro proxy builds from Toss with FE builds:
Toss cant deal with mid game pressure vs. Terran FE builds:
Terran cant keep up with toss with defensive macro builds:
= non stop fuckfest where viewers dont learn shit except how to mind fuck someone. NOT THRILLED
P.s. not bitching at OP i understand the need for TL to perpetuate the caster type hype train but you can even hear it in tastosis voice when they are casting that they are disappointed lol.
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On September 05 2018 23:48 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2018 23:31 brickrd wrote:
anyway, hope zest wins. the last thing GSL needs is the worst mirror matchup representing a finals. You think Maru vs TY would be worse than TY proxying Zest 7 games straight?
LOL this 100x this
Its like real life idiocracy.
Proxy isnt supposed to BE the meta LOL.
Its supposed to be mixed in as a risk you take to throw off ur opp. Nobody from blizzard saying shit tho..so must be cool.
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TY played a lot like classic polt on 16bit, I thought
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United States33197 Posts
On September 05 2018 23:25 Bagration wrote:
It's funny how the GSL banner at the top of the post shows Maru and 3 foreigners most clearly - looks like this GSL is going to Korea once more
hey, it's their graphic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Haven't watched SC2 in a while. It is quite disappointing if proxy is the Terran meta. The main point of LOTV's increase of workers is to cut out super-early cheeses and escalate the action into mid-game quicker. Mission fail?
There's nothing wrong with early game harass and cheese being still viable. But it's a bit unfair if only a specific race can pull them off. I miss ling pool rushes 
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On September 06 2018 00:20 RKC wrote:Haven't watched SC2 in a while. It is quite disappointing if proxy is the Terran meta. The main point of LOTV's increase of workers is to cut out super-early cheeses and escalate the action into mid-game quicker. Mission fail? There's nothing wrong with early game harass and cheese being still viable. But it's a bit unfair if only a specific race can pull them off. I miss ling pool rushes
Arguably, the proxy meta is a response to the fact that Protoss have gotten really good at defending, especially with the strength shield batteries give. Protoss can cut a lot of corners and get fast third double upgrades in many games. To counter that Terrans are aggressive to force toss to be less greedy. Another note is that just like with 3 rax reapers, many terrans have learned how to transition well so it's not as committed
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Bisutopia19208 Posts
On September 05 2018 23:25 Bagration wrote:
It's funny how the GSL banner at the top of the post shows Maru and 3 foreigners most clearly - looks like this GSL is going to Korea once more
At least one of those foreigners is Harry Potter.
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On September 06 2018 00:33 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2018 00:20 RKC wrote:Haven't watched SC2 in a while. It is quite disappointing if proxy is the Terran meta. The main point of LOTV's increase of workers is to cut out super-early cheeses and escalate the action into mid-game quicker. Mission fail? There's nothing wrong with early game harass and cheese being still viable. But it's a bit unfair if only a specific race can pull them off. I miss ling pool rushes Arguably, the proxy meta is a response to the fact that Protoss have gotten really good at defending, especially with the strength shield batteries give. Protoss can cut a lot of corners and get fast third double upgrades in many games. To counter that Terrans are aggressive to force toss to be less greedy. Another note is that just like with 3 rax reapers, many terrans have learned how to transition well so it's not as committed
So 2-base drop harass or tank push is no longer viable? Sorry too sound ignorant, but I'm genuinely amazed how the meta has changed this year...
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On September 06 2018 01:05 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2018 00:33 Parrek wrote:On September 06 2018 00:20 RKC wrote:Haven't watched SC2 in a while. It is quite disappointing if proxy is the Terran meta. The main point of LOTV's increase of workers is to cut out super-early cheeses and escalate the action into mid-game quicker. Mission fail? There's nothing wrong with early game harass and cheese being still viable. But it's a bit unfair if only a specific race can pull them off. I miss ling pool rushes Arguably, the proxy meta is a response to the fact that Protoss have gotten really good at defending, especially with the strength shield batteries give. Protoss can cut a lot of corners and get fast third double upgrades in many games. To counter that Terrans are aggressive to force toss to be less greedy. Another note is that just like with 3 rax reapers, many terrans have learned how to transition well so it's not as committed So 2-base drop harass or tank push is no longer viable? Sorry too sound ignorant, but I'm genuinely amazed how the meta has changed this year...
It's not considered optimal, but not totally unviable either. For example a big problem with tank pushing is that Protoss can have charge done before you siege them in a place that's truly uncomfortable.
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EPT
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TY earned his return to the Code S grand finals after over two years of waiting, defeating a plucky ![[image loading]](/staff/Waxangel/GSL/2018/gsls3bracket1_4.png)
