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KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
September 06 2018 20:16 GMT
#61
On September 06 2018 22:51 uummpaa wrote:
and since he now is already qualified for the next GSL, i hope that he will come back, with this lvl of play, he surley belongs there

This was last season for this year, so unless they change something, he will have to go trough qualifiers again.
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
September 06 2018 20:45 GMT
#62
On September 05 2018 23:53 DomeGetta wrote:
Yah TVT is the most tolerable mirror imo

Does the meta have changed ? Last TvT i've seen was cyclon vs cyclon... Worst MU.

PvP is always kind of fun to watch, and ZvZ althought anyone start saying "I don't want to watch it", at the end they say "Woo actually the games were good".

When you saw TvT on HOTS, TvT on LOTV is horrible.
Athenau
Profile Joined March 2015
590 Posts
September 06 2018 21:48 GMT
#63
Whenever I tune into ZvZ I regret it. Doesn't help that ZvZ is by far the most played mirror.

TvT early game is retarded, but once it gets past the Cyclone mono-battle stage and into the marine-tank-liberator-viking-raven mid-game it can be very entertaining, especially if both players are skilled (read Korean).

PvP is surprisingly good because watching disruptors blow shit up never gets old.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States741 Posts
September 06 2018 21:57 GMT
#64
Two terrans are using proxy builds and everyone freaks out that the whole meta has changed.

Relax and give it a month or two.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-07 05:38:27
September 07 2018 05:36 GMT
#65
On September 06 2018 21:56 DomeGetta wrote:
Weve seen exciting tvp with attacks on multiple fronts for the entirety of sc2. ..has literally nothing to do with proxy.

Exactly. Because there is no proxy meta. Games are exciting and fun because of the core SC2 design some people (who just don't want to git gud) are still bitching about. Such kind of games are DIRECT sequence of the the SC2 being left alone w/o patches for a year and players trying out different stuff and having enough time to practice it. I hope it will last.

I can paraphrase it for you exclusively: How come your gamebreaking proxy meta actually produced quality games?
Less is more.
pzdPrime
Profile Joined August 2018
1 Post
September 07 2018 08:29 GMT
#66
the proxy bb is stupid and imbalance,protoss has no way to defend perfectly,and terren's cyclone can beat every units of protoss
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-07 12:26:08
September 07 2018 12:25 GMT
#67
On September 07 2018 14:36 insitelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 21:56 DomeGetta wrote:
Weve seen exciting tvp with attacks on multiple fronts for the entirety of sc2. ..has literally nothing to do with proxy.

Exactly. Because there is no proxy meta. Games are exciting and fun because of the core SC2 design some people (who just don't want to git gud) are still bitching about. Such kind of games are DIRECT sequence of the the SC2 being left alone w/o patches for a year and players trying out different stuff and having enough time to practice it. I hope it will last.

I can paraphrase it for you exclusively: How come your gamebreaking proxy meta actually produced quality games?



Yah sorry man cant really get behind this. 3 of the 4 horsemen are doing nothing but proxy vs toss for better part of a month. You are delusional to say there "is no proxy meta".
Second wrong thing you said which makes me curious if you are messing w me is the game has been left alone for a year?? Wtf u been lol? Multiple patches each season of gsl so far.
Third question:
I never said its impossible to make an exciting game out of a proxy opener. What i said was that proxy openers should not be the standard play in any matchup. Contrary to a few peoples posts here, i strongly believe the meta is a symptom of how stupid the matchup has gotten to play standard.
Hopefully the kids abusing it on ladder trying to promote from bronze cheering on this meta wont distract blizzard from actually trying to fix the matchup.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
September 07 2018 16:55 GMT
#68
this website needs to stop spoiling stuff so quickly after the air date. It's hard to watch it live for most of the world and it's also hard to avoid TL if you want to know upcoming events. Some sort of spoiler tag or something in the title would be great, since you could still write the article....


JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18038 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-07 19:08:40
September 07 2018 18:44 GMT
#69
Try clicking this "hide spoiler" checkbox on the front page.
+ Show Spoiler +
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great series. i love how the landed viking.. in the right hands.. is a viable unit. congrats to neeb and ty for putting on a great series...

congratz to browder, kim, et al for creating a great RTS game that makes a great competitive series like this possible.

On September 07 2018 21:25 DomeGetta wrote:
Yah sorry man cant really get behind this. 3 of the 4 horsemen are doing nothing but proxy vs toss for better part of a month.

Ric Flair and Arn Anderson do not proxy.
[image loading]

its nice to see the proxy strategy by terrans force the protoss out of the "i will always expand at teh start no matter what" mindset.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
September 08 2018 16:48 GMT
#70
Bbbut guys...there is no "proxy meta!" Come on the games are FANTASTIC! So exciting and good for the game omg. I hope it translates to tvt and we get 7 more FANTASTIC games in the final!!
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
September 08 2018 18:30 GMT
#71
Thanks JimmyRaynor, I'm dumb!

I hope checking "hide spoilers" box is a known thing.
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