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On February 01 2008 02:36 JensOfSweden wrote:
Pay to play is nice.
If you can't pay like $10/month your a cheap bastard. I guess most of the people who don't wanna pay are the 14-year olds who don't have money
On May 21 2007 18:34 Monoxide wrote:"Blizzard was silent on whether using Battle.net for StarCraft 2 would require a charge or subscription fee. The service will certainly have new features, Blizzard assured the press in the audience, but they weren't willing to get into pricing specifics." Who will play this game if blizzard charges a monthly fee similar to WoW? Poll: Will you pay to play?( Vote): Hell Yes! SC2 kicks ass!! ( Vote): F*** No, this is bullshit! ( Vote): Maybe... i'll see if i win the lottery or something...
So it looks like 79°/o of people here are cheap bastards. I dont understand why i would have to pay $10/month, sorry.
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Why should they require a monthly fee when pretty much no other game besides MMO's need it? Unless they come up with some new feature that will revolutionize RTS gaming as we know it i don't see a reason why they should need a monthly fee when other RTS games don't.
We all love Starcraft but it's just another RTS game only better then the rest and in my opinion that doesn't warrant a monthly fee.
And yes, i have the money to spend i just want a reason for it.
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I hate to set up accounts with subsciptionplans, they all suck. Some months you want to play alot some you just want to play a few games without having to log in and activate and deactivate the paymant account.
I'd much rather see advertisments on b.net than having to pay for subscription.
My guess is that there will be more people playing on private servers instead if you will have to pay2play on b.net.
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who gives a shit if its pay to play, aus-1
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and many other online servers will rise up against this bullshit bureaucracy
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On February 01 2008 02:36 JensOfSweden wrote:
Pay to play is nice.
If you can't pay like $10/month your a cheap bastard. I guess most of the people who don't wanna pay are the 14-year olds who don't have money
shut up moron, ur prole-attitude is not needed nor its any cool or gives u any rep. or credit.
its not like 4/5 on this forum couldnt afford to pay $10/month or are the "14-year olds who dont have money". blizzard has shown with sc/wc3 and other games its possible to offer services without taking $ for it. lets hope they dont raid us with monthly fee's.
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Being from a richer background and playing wow I can't say a pay system would effect me that much. However I don't think Blizzard would implement such a system.
B.net is not something based solely on one game. Players from sc can interact with players from war3 and I would guess the same would go for sc2. So making one of their games having to pay for the same b.net system while others enjoy it doesn't quite seem right. I would think Blizzard would have to make every game on b.net p2p if they did it.
Many people say gamers won't spend the same amount of time as they do on an MMO when they play sc2. However I cannot blindly say this statement is correct. I know from experience UMS maps on games such as war3 make you want to play everyday. You can spend hours playing and carry on the next day. The reason for this is that UMS maps make a different experience from the general RTS experience. I can see good UMS maps being played for hours at end by people who do not enjoy SC2 as much.
I am neither for nor against p2p. I just wanted to bring a few things to attention
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I don't get all the people who are saying "hell no" to pay to play. I mean common, its supply and demand. How much hours of fun does starcraft give you for a whole month?? u don't think thats worth 10 bucks?? Especially since a shitty 1 hour and half movie and two happy meals cost just as much. Just because its free in the past doesn't mean it should stay free, things generally should cost what they are worth. and 5 to 10 bucks a month to play an amazing game on a server with people around the world is well worth it. Stop comparing it to what it is like in past and consider what it is worth in the present.
You go out and drink with few buddies and it can easily cost 20 dollars and the fun lasts just a few hours. Bowling for few hours, another 20 dollars. And you wouldn't pay 5 to 10 for a game that can easily give u 30+ hours of enjoyment per month?
Besides, even if they do ask for subscription fee it wouldn't be much at all. considering wow costs 15 per month, and the the MMORPG servers requires much much more expensive startup and upkeep fees.
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Starcraft is a casual thing for me. Sometimes I feel like playing it, sometimes I don't feel like playing it. If I have to pay <amount of money per month here>, I'd rather go spend it on something IRL. Keep in mind I've never played WoW, just not my kind of game, but then again, Starcraft and WoW are nothing alike in terms of gameplay.
WoW you're paying to play and level/whatever the character you made online, dedicating your time to raising that character. Paying monthly for Starcraft is just like paying just for access to play the game online. I think that's just going too far and I don't want to waste my money on paying monthly for a casual game, only to force me to play it even more just because I'm trying to get the most out of what I paid for. I'm sure at least some people feel the same as me. I'd still buy the game for the single player campaign/story, but if I have to pay to play online, forget that. I'd probably wait for private servers to go up or something to play online, or connect directly with my friends (if they'd even allow that anymore). 
Paying monthly for the game isn't going to help with sales either; it's just going to lessen the total amount of people who buy the game because the majority of people who are going to buy the game and play online are younger people who probably don't have access to that kind of money/credit cards and what not. Those kids in turn won't go around telling their friends about this cool new game they bought that they can easily pay for free online, and cause their friends to go buy the game to play it with them. Then there are people (like me) who just don't want to deal with all the paying monthly bullshit.
It's just going to end up for serious gamers who want to dedicate their time into playing SCII, and the game won't really pick up in popularity that way, or at least that's what I think. It doesn't help that they're making the game easier to master mechanically (auto-mine, MBS, blah blah etc.) so you probably won't have to train nearly as much to become/stay competitive, therefore the game will most likely just end up dying out in a few years.
Then again, I really doubt they are going to make people pay monthly to play online anyway.
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On February 01 2008 02:36 JensOfSweden wrote:
Pay to play is nice.
If you can't pay like $10/month your a cheap bastard. I guess most of the people who don't wanna pay are the 14-year olds who don't have money
No. I just don't like getting totally buttraped by companies. The 50 or 60$ that it will cost for the game alone more than covers their costs.
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On February 01 2008 04:30 Glider wrote:
I don't get all the people who are saying "hell no" to pay to play. I mean common, its supply and demand. How much hours of fun does starcraft give you for a whole month?? u don't think thats worth 10 bucks?? Especially since a shitty 1 hour and half movie and two happy meals cost just as much. Just because its free in the past doesn't mean it should stay free, things generally should cost what they are worth. and 5 to 10 bucks a month to play an amazing game on a server with people around the world is well worth it. Stop comparing it to what it is like in past and consider what it is worth in the present.
You go out and drink with few buddies and it can easily cost 20 dollars and the fun lasts just a few hours. Bowling for few hours, another 20 dollars. And you wouldn't pay 5 to 10 for a game that can easily give u 30+ hours of enjoyment per month?
Besides, even if they do ask for subscription fee it wouldn't be much at all. considering wow costs 15 per month, and the the MMORPG servers requires much much more expensive startup and upkeep fees.
After I saw the SC2 graphics and animations, especially for the thor and siege tank, I came to a conclusion that if the graphics don't get a drastic makeover, SC2 won't even be worth bying.
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FUCK NO!!
NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONOOONONONONONONONONONONOOOONONONONONOO
(mature right?:D)
No seriously, pay to play will kill SCII even at launch.
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Isnt starcraft client side anyways?
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$10 a month for matchmaking for a single game is silly. I'd pay maybe $1-2.
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On February 01 2008 07:01 decafchicken wrote:
Isnt starcraft client side anyways?
There is definitely a server involved that facilitates battle.net... what do you think
"connecting to battle.net..." means?
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On February 01 2008 07:23 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2008 07:01 decafchicken wrote:
Isnt starcraft client side anyways? There is definitely a server involved that facilitates battle.net... what do you think "connecting to battle.net..." means?
Yes, but once the game is going he's implying its client to client. I'm not sure how it works, but I'm guessing very little game data actually goes through the battle.net servers themselves. Essentially Battle.net works as a matchmaking service similar to Xbox Live or something like that.
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P2P wont work on an RTS. It does wonders for MMO games, because those usually require grinding and time, but thats simply not the case for SC2
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Paying a monthly fee might mean marginally less laggers due to less poor people.
Thus, it is worth it.
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I would have no problem whatsoever with paying a small monthly fee. I work, so I can afford it. Hell every child can afford 10$ a month. Of course it would depend on wether or not I like SC2 and on wether or not it's worthwhile playing over bnet.
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On February 01 2008 08:54 MYM.Testie wrote:
Paying a monthly fee might mean marginally less laggers due to less poor people.
Thus, it is worth it.
Oh that made me laugh... You're so right though.
Anyways, I would pay to play Sc2. However, if I played it like I play Sc, it would get pretty annoying. Since I tend to play Sc in monthly bursts. (Like play it for a couple months, then don't play it for a couple and so and so fourth)
I could see that getting really annoying. But $10 isn't really much to pay. I also think it would help in reducing hackers to a very slight degree.
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