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The Good, Bad, and Ugly of WCS Austin

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The Good, Bad, and Ugly of WCS Austin

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June 8th, 2018 01:27 GMT

The Good, Bad, and Ugly of WCS Austin

Written by: Soularion

What a tumultuous Texas tournament WCS Austin turned out to be. Almost all of the so-called 'favorites' caught fire, and not in the good way. They spontaneously combusted, reduced to ashes in their seats as the underdogs claimed win after win. The last time we saw so much chaos in the West was back in WCS Season 3 in 2015, where Lilbow won the championship and MaNa came in second. In any case, it's time to unpack the events of the shocking StarCraft showdown.

THE GOOD

Serral Challenges for the GOAT Foreigner Peak

(Wiki)Serral's still got quite a way to go before he enters the 'greatest of all time' foreigner discussion, but he's certainly got a case to say he's enjoying the greatest peak. The hype was dulled slightly when Serral dropped two games in a finals where a sweep was expected, but overall he was absolutely stunning in his championship run. His opponents seemed defeated before the tournament even started, with everyone conceding that WCS Austin would be a battle for second place. While Serral did get a relatively easy bracket due to the upsets elsewhere (we'll get to those in a bit), he took what he was given and delivered a dominant tournament run that lived up to expectations. His 17-3 overall tournament record ended up falling just short of Neeb's 17-2 mark at WCS Montreal 2017.

Unfortunately, we probably won't see Serral play against Korean competition until GSL vs the World later this summer. There's a limit to how far you can hype a foreigner before they must pass the Korean-test, but it's undeniable that Serral has already made an unforgettable impact on the WCS Circuit.

MaNa's Ridiculous Tournament Run-of-Death

Seriously, how does (Wiki)MaNa find a way to make a deep tournament run in every expansion? Last time, it was during the aforementioned WCS Season 3 in 2015, where he ran a gauntlet of tough opponents (XiGua, TLO, Zanster, Elfi, MarineLord, Petraeus, ForGG) before losing to Lilbow in the finals.

This time around, he willed his way through one of the most difficult tournament paths of the entire WCS era. To get out of his first group stage—typically a cakewalk against amateurs and fans—he had to defeat Optimus and the feisty Namshar. In the final group stage he had to face uThermal twice, going in both times as a significant underdog but still pulling off the upsets to reach the playoffs. There, MaNa proceeded to go a combined 9-1 against Neeb, Snute, and SpeCial. All three are in the elite tier of foreigner competition, all three played in BlizzCon 2017, and all three got downright stomped by MaNa (the series against SpeCial was closer and very entertaining; probably the highlight of the tournament overall). All that was topped off by a competitive finals showing against Serral, who's a far more terrifying foe than 2015 Lilbow.

Make no mistake, this is an all-time great underdog story. It's difficult to say how much of this run was a miracle in the moment and how much of it was due to something more permanent. IF MaNa has indeed revealed his true form, then WCS Valencia might turn out to be far more interesting than the expected Serral stomp.

Lambo's Breakout Weekend

While (Wiki)Lambo's run wasn't quite as improbable as MaNa's—and somewhat overshadowed by it toward the end—it was still a hugely impressive and important step-forward for a player who had never been able to put together a significant WCS run before. His previous best result was the RO16, the cut-off line between pretenders and contenders.

Beating MaSa and PtitDrogo in group stages made WCS Austin already quite successful for Lambo compared to his previous results, but by going on to eliminate Nerchio and TRUE, he achieved a nigh-unthinkable top four finish. Both were far more accomplished opponents with historically strong ZvZ, and the two possessed wildly different styles—TRUE being explosive and theatric, while Nerchio is risk-averse but incredibly smart in the mid-late game. Lambo beat both of them by comfortable margins, and even gave Serral a run for his money before being eliminated in the semifinals. Like MaNa, it's difficult to say if Lambo will show this same level of play in Valencia, but for now he looks to be another top-tier Zerg chasing a WCS title.

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Photo: Carlton Beener, via Blizzard


THE BAD

Scarlett's Continued WCS Struggles

Ouch. Nerchio has been a recurring obstacle for (Wiki)Scarlett (they played multiple entertaining sets in 2016, and recently during WESG), and we know any match between the two will be a toss-up, but it was still sad to see Scarlett meet another early end in WCS. At Leipzig, she went out in the RO32 group stage after losing two ZvZ series to Namshar. This time, Nerchio took a clean sweep in the RO16.

If Scarlett's early GG out of game 2 vs Nerchio was born out of frustration, then that frustration must have carried over to game 3 as the series got very ugly, very quickly. It's tough to even say what went wrong for Scarlett this year; her ZvZ has frequently bounced between 'bland and bad' and 'goddamn amazing', and it was certainly on the side of the former at WCS Austin.

Scarlett is known for her spectacular plays and stunning comebacks... this time, not so much.


There's not much for Scarlett to do here except the obvious: 'play better' and return to the form that saw her win IEM PyeongChang and reach the GSL RO8. Scarlett now sits at #14 in WCS Circuit points, making WCS Valencia a pivotal tournament for the Canadian heroine if she wants to keep her BlizzCon hopes alive. If she can't put things back together by then, her year will take a sharp downward turn after a dream start.

SpeCial's Semifinals Slump

(Wiki)SpeCial is now 0-6 in major semifinals, and it's not looking as though that curse is going anywhere soon. At least most of his previous semifinals losses came against equal or superior opponents—you couldn't really fault SpeCial for losing to Neeb, Snute, soO, Serral, or sOs. However, MaNa came into the WCS Austin semifinals without even a quarterfinal appearance in almost three years. Yes, the series was very entertaining, and more competitive than some of SpeCial's semifinals losses. But MaNa was not a player he was supposed to have a competitive series with. If you saw this matchup in the Round of 16, you would've thought SpeCial was going to win in four games or so. For him to fail here is the most disappointment he's suffered in quite some time. If these losses weren't a mental burden already, they're definitely reaching that point.

Challengers or Chumps?

Goddamn, this was about an awful performance by the Challenger/regional qualifier players as one could've possibly imagined. We saw a plenty of unexpected names seeded into the RO32 to start the tournament, as Austin had some of the zaniest qualifiers results yet. China was a huge mess: XY and iAsonu fail to qualify, TIME and BreakingGG qualified based on their performance from a three-month-old GPL, and visa issues saw BreakingGG replaced at the last moment by Jieshi. Expect made it out of Taiwan while NXZ represented Oceania in WCS for the first time in years. On top of that, a bunch of European upsets led to players such as PtitDrogo and uThermal qualifying, whereas TRUE's Challenger forfeiture let puCK qualify from NA.

There were a whole lot of opportunities for some of these underdog players to make it to the playoffs and take advantage of what was a golden opportunity. None of them did so. While the open bracket/qualifier gave us captivating runs from MaNa and Lambo, the best thing that ended up coming out of the regional qualifiers were a couple of hilarious series from MaSa.

THE UGLY


Abysmal Series Quality

Yes, it was probably unfair to expect this tournament to be as great as WCS Leipzig; in that tournament, only four matches ended in a 3-0, and there were a seemingly endless amount of tense and enjoyable series. But did Austin have to be so one-sided? We didn't see a single five-game series, and we saw more sweeps in the first round as we did in the entirety of WCS Leipzig. Austin ended with ten playoff sweeps, the most we've had under the current WCS Circuit format. Even back in 2016 when WCS had a RO32 single-elimination bracket, things weren't this bad. WCS Spring 2016 had just NINE sweeps, despite having SIXTEEN more matches. Without going back through every tournament ever played, I'll venture that this degree of one-sided stomping has never happened in StarCraft tournament history. Fortunately, we were able to end on a high note, with Lambo and MaNa giving us semifinal and final matches that were brimming with emotion and excitement. In any case, it's fortunate that we'll soon have another WCS event that might deliver the all-day entertainment we've come to expect.



Remember Those Players You Liked? They Lost. All of Them. Unless You're From Finland.

Serral, MaNa, and Lambo will be the players we remember from WCS Austin, but we can't end a recap without mentioning the massacre of fan-favorite and star players. Dream tournament runs from MaNa and Lambo made it all worth it in the end, but damn—Austin was a bloodbath. Let's take a moment to remember the fallen favorites.

uThermal was eliminated by MaNa and was hospitalized for pneumonia. MaSa and PtitDrogo, who made big waves in the qualifiers, were sacrificed for the glory of Lambo. ShoWTimE—called the best chance of preventing a Serral championship—got 4-0'd by Kelazhur, who in turn was absolutely wrecked by Serral in the next round. TRUE's ZvZ was not up to par against Lambo, and PSISTORM's team owner punctuated the defeat by tweeting his disapproval. Scarlett was swept by Nerchio and got compared to IdrA in the process.

Oh, and Neeb got 3-0'd by MaNa—seriously, how does that happen? Who would've EVER predicted that? Even the most die-hard MaNa fans would've at least predicted a five-game cheesefest where MaNa barely wins, but no, Neeb utterly folded in ugliest series he's played in years.

Snute recovered from a bad-as-per-usual group stage, only to get 3-0'd by MaNa in the traditional Liquid team-kill. Elazer got outplayed hard by SpeCial, after having this misfortune to run into a tournament favorite in the 2nd round yet again. And finally, Nerchio was the last casualty of Lambo's breakout tournament.

Thanks for your efforts, everyone. Your sacrifices were not in vain, and you helped make WCS Austin one of the most memorable tournaments in a long time. We'll see you in Valencia!

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Photo: Carlton Beener, via Blizzard




Credits and acknowledgements

Written by: Soularion
Editor: Wax
Photos: Carlton Beener, via Blizzard

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CaptainBurnTurn
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United States80 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 01:46:32
June 08 2018 01:46 GMT
#2
Yay! First comment. Btw this was a great read.
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Vutalisk
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United States680 Posts
June 08 2018 01:51 GMT
#3
Good write. I love it.
ZombieGrub
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States693 Posts
June 08 2018 01:58 GMT
#4
Entertaining read! The tournament was seriously so weird and I only caught a bit here and there since I was running around. To sit down for the weekend and watch Austin unfold...that must've been surreal.
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USA29055 Posts
June 08 2018 02:14 GMT
#5
Scathing and critical but I love it. Awesome article.
Darkness2k11
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Chile313 Posts
June 08 2018 02:15 GMT
#6
I'm glad that Lambo got a section of his own.
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feardragon
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United States970 Posts
June 08 2018 03:07 GMT
#7
This was brutal but accurate. Thanks for the write up!
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Parrek
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United States893 Posts
June 08 2018 03:18 GMT
#8
Anyone else think that Special looked so bad against MaNa because he didn't study him at all? Special is known for his prepared builds and his proxies, but he did none of that vs MaNa. I think he just wasn't able to prepare well in the night before the final day. After all, Special would have probably never prepared for him otherwise as MaNa has been a ro32 player for like 3 years now.
SnowAngel
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland38 Posts
June 08 2018 08:57 GMT
#9
This was a funny read.
Mun_Su
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France2063 Posts
June 08 2018 09:46 GMT
#10
very good read !
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June 08 2018 09:58 GMT
#11
Excellent read, well done!
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LongShot27
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United States2084 Posts
June 08 2018 10:08 GMT
#12
Wow, why anyone would want to work for the Psistorm asshole is beyond me
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stardog
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June 08 2018 13:15 GMT
#13
That was an awesome summary!
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June 08 2018 13:55 GMT
#14
Thanks for the article & recap, I enjoyed it. Hopefully Mana can retain such form.
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Australia1025 Posts
June 08 2018 14:01 GMT
#15
On June 08 2018 19:08 LongShot27 wrote:
Wow, why anyone would want to work for the Psistorm asshole is beyond me


I found that pretty surprising too. I can understand being unhappy if tournament participation cost a lot of money and it's just not financially sustainable. And I can understand being mad about it if it seems like people haven't taken it seriously and that's the reason for results that fall short.

But even taking these things into account, it seems weird to focus your anger on the results themselves. Maybe there's something I just don't understand here, but I think that it's unfair to expect things out of the players that might not really be up to them. Sometimes things don't go as planned. Even Koreans much higher on the totem pole than TRUE have sometimes been upset.
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Powerfoe
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Canada167 Posts
June 08 2018 14:51 GMT
#16
On June 08 2018 23:01 neutralrobot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 19:08 LongShot27 wrote:
Wow, why anyone would want to work for the Psistorm asshole is beyond me


I found that pretty surprising too. I can understand being unhappy if tournament participation cost a lot of money and it's just not financially sustainable. And I can understand being mad about it if it seems like people haven't taken it seriously and that's the reason for results that fall short.

But even taking these things into account, it seems weird to focus your anger on the results themselves. Maybe there's something I just don't understand here, but I think that it's unfair to expect things out of the players that might not really be up to them. Sometimes things don't go as planned. Even Koreans much higher on the totem pole than TRUE have sometimes been upset.


When PSISTORM signed TRUE and paid for him to start living and competing in America, TRUE was easily on a higher level than almost every foreigner and the only people in WCS that could compete with him were Polt, Hydra, and Neeb. Now, it's 2 years later, Polt and Hydra have retired, and it's a struggle for him to even achieve top 8. I would be angry too if I was the team owner, but yeah it's not a good idea to complain about it on Twitter.
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Canada33091 Posts
June 08 2018 15:04 GMT
#17
MaSa basically confirmed best girl, right?
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Canada8988 Posts
June 08 2018 15:10 GMT
#18
Grear article
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United States8476 Posts
June 08 2018 15:26 GMT
#19
I enjoyed this article too!
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June 08 2018 15:45 GMT
#20
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Charoisaur
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Germany15897 Posts
June 08 2018 16:23 GMT
#21
On June 08 2018 19:08 LongShot27 wrote:
Wow, why anyone would want to work for the Psistorm asshole is beyond me

Yeah, I have no respect for that guy.
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United States8198 Posts
June 08 2018 16:55 GMT
#22
The EU /NA gap that seemed closed in 2017 now looks wider than ever.
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Germany163 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 17:56:06
June 08 2018 17:54 GMT
#23
On June 08 2018 23:51 Powerfoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 23:01 neutralrobot wrote:
On June 08 2018 19:08 LongShot27 wrote:
Wow, why anyone would want to work for the Psistorm asshole is beyond me


I found that pretty surprising too. I can understand being unhappy if tournament participation cost a lot of money and it's just not financially sustainable. And I can understand being mad about it if it seems like people haven't taken it seriously and that's the reason for results that fall short.

But even taking these things into account, it seems weird to focus your anger on the results themselves. Maybe there's something I just don't understand here, but I think that it's unfair to expect things out of the players that might not really be up to them. Sometimes things don't go as planned. Even Koreans much higher on the totem pole than TRUE have sometimes been upset.


When PSISTORM signed TRUE and paid for him to start living and competing in America, TRUE was easily on a higher level than almost every foreigner and the only people in WCS that could compete with him were Polt, Hydra, and Neeb. Now, it's 2 years later, Polt and Hydra have retired, and it's a struggle for him to even achieve top 8. I would be angry too if I was the team owner, but yeah it's not a good idea to complain about it on Twitter.


disagree with a lot of this. while trues initial instant championship run and the story behind it were a miracle, i wouldnt say that he was on a higher level than almost every foreigner back then. true just has a very distinct aggressive style that gets worse the more known you are and as it was just a 32 player single elim bracket back then, he could breeze through it before anyone was able to adjust. also amazing that for example welmu made top 8 while showtime was eliminated in the ro32 by heromarine, says something about the overall tournament / system, doesnt it!?

besides, he still made top 4 in 3 out of 4 wcs events last year. he also made top 8 in leipzig, only getting eliminated by an on fire showtime. i dont see how he "struggles to even achieve top 8" just because he failed to that at this event vs a lambo who played very well and came prepared.

overall i dont think true became worse or anything, people are just more familiar with his style. he also still qualified for gsl (where he lost to sOs and solar, no shame in that and not worse than in previous years) as well as the super tournament (where he lost 2-3 to dark in the ro8, not bad, is it!?), so i think people are exaggerating, maybe because of the korean in foreigner tournaments stigma.
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Saechiis
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Netherlands4989 Posts
June 08 2018 18:13 GMT
#24
TRUE has definitely fallen off. Whether he got worse or people around him better is just semantics. There's no way old TRUE would be anything but the favorite to win any foreigner event.

Nice writeup.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 08 2018 19:29 GMT
#25
Fun article.

There doesn't seem to be any reason other than shear probability for why this tournament turned out so surprisingly, but hopefully some of these trends stick.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15897 Posts
June 08 2018 19:32 GMT
#26
On June 09 2018 03:13 Saechiis wrote:
TRUE has definitely fallen off. Whether he got worse or people around him better is just semantics. There's no way old TRUE would be anything but the favorite to win any foreigner event.

Nice writeup.

a good team owner would stand behind the player and motivate him to do better and not publicly shit on him once he starts performing worse.
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LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
June 08 2018 20:45 GMT
#27
This tournament was the first one I've watched since returning where I had a good grasp on the players and meta. I don't know why I left this game. It's just simply the best. This Serral guy is pretty good...
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 08 2018 20:49 GMT
#28
Did I miss it or so many zergs isn't under the bad?
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Yo_Man
Profile Joined May 2017
43 Posts
June 08 2018 20:53 GMT
#29
nice article thanks !
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 08 2018 21:02 GMT
#30
Also how do i turn off the autoplay of clips? Somehow I am blind and cannot see this and it annoys me
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 08 2018 21:30 GMT
#31
On June 09 2018 05:49 deacon.frost wrote:
Did I miss it or so many zergs isn't under the bad?


This is a news article, and understandably focuses on things that are actually news.
Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
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June 08 2018 21:55 GMT
#32
On June 09 2018 00:45 hexhaven wrote:
#torille

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Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
215 Posts
June 08 2018 21:57 GMT
#33
Really glad to see MaNa and Lambo going beyond expectations, it was definitely the highlight of the year when MaNa was up 2-1 in the finals against Serral.

Disappointed to not have seen more of Scarlett, that was definitely a tilting series against Nerchio.
Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
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June 08 2018 21:59 GMT
#34
On June 09 2018 05:45 LambtrOn wrote:
This tournament was the first one I've watched since returning where I had a good grasp on the players and meta. I don't know why I left this game. It's just simply the best. This Serral guy is pretty good...

Yeah, many say he's the best foreigner of all time, which is quite a statement; but then again no one can win against him in the west so that's got to have truth, right?
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
June 08 2018 22:40 GMT
#35
On June 09 2018 06:59 Kurao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2018 05:45 LambtrOn wrote:
This tournament was the first one I've watched since returning where I had a good grasp on the players and meta. I don't know why I left this game. It's just simply the best. This Serral guy is pretty good...

Yeah, many say he's the best foreigner of all time, which is quite a statement; but then again no one can win against him in the west so that's got to have truth, right?


I still think he has to get a title from a tournament where there are GSL players first. I still rate Stephano higher than him, but he is definitely climbing up there. Would be sick to see him take Blizzcon.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-09 05:40:07
June 09 2018 05:38 GMT
#36
No mention of DreamHack arbitrarily changing their rules at the last second and screwing players out of getting to play?

Like Yours from Australia who spent $2,000 of his own money to travel to DreamHack, was at the VERY TOP of the waiting list yet wasn't inserted into the tournament when people dropped out because they decided to change the rules and individually pick and choose who to let into the tournament? The double standards of letting a pro gamer like Stephano in the tournament (who wasn't even close to the top of the waiting list) while some random NA player not on a team or not with any tournament performances let in over Yours?

No mention of blunders like Seither being up 1-0 over TRUE before the admins told them to stop the series and changed the brackets?

That's something that should definitely be in the Ugly category. The tournament was run terribly and other than a single Reddit thread, there's been no kind of acknowledgement or apology from the DreamHack admins.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 09 2018 06:58 GMT
#37
Special: 0-6 in semi-finals.

Surely there must be a term for it, right? Prince Kong? Kong-before-Kong?

But in all seriousness, I feel sad for Special. He deserves a win, not just a finalist appearance. He seems to excel better with more preparation, so perhaps it's a pity that foreign tournaments all tend to be weekenders. Hopefully he makes his breakthrough in GSL soon!
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
June 09 2018 07:28 GMT
#38
On June 09 2018 15:58 RKC wrote:
Special: 0-6 in semi-finals.

Surely there must be a term for it, right? Prince Kong? Kong-before-Kong?

But in all seriousness, I feel sad for Special. He deserves a win, not just a finalist appearance. He seems to excel better with more preparation, so perhaps it's a pity that foreign tournaments all tend to be weekenders. Hopefully he makes his breakthrough in GSL soon!


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Last Edited: 2018-06-09 08:23:18
June 09 2018 08:22 GMT
#39
On June 09 2018 16:28 phodacbiet wrote:
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On June 09 2018 15:58 RKC wrote:
Special: 0-6 in semi-finals.

Surely there must be a term for it, right? Prince Kong? Kong-before-Kong?

But in all seriousness, I feel sad for Special. He deserves a win, not just a finalist appearance. He seems to excel better with more preparation, so perhaps it's a pity that foreign tournaments all tend to be weekenders. Hopefully he makes his breakthrough in GSL soon!


MajOr Kong.

More like Junior Kong

maybe some LATAM fans could chip in with a Spanish meme/joke?
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
June 09 2018 09:10 GMT
#40
On June 09 2018 04:32 Charoisaur wrote:
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On June 09 2018 03:13 Saechiis wrote:
TRUE has definitely fallen off. Whether he got worse or people around him better is just semantics. There's no way old TRUE would be anything but the favorite to win any foreigner event.

Nice writeup.

a good team owner would stand behind the player and motivate him to do better and not publicly shit on him once he starts performing worse.
Players aren't machines who consistently perform at their peak level even if they want to.


And it's almost like you can just not sign him to a new contract when the current one expires instead of shit talking
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