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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
February 17 2018 18:52 GMT
#1
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(Wiki)World Electronic Sports Games 2017

From Goldmadman:
Hi, everyone, I am a journalist of Alisports. I am also a big fan and an amateur player of StarCraft II. As a great game, I always hope there will be some interesting interviews about StarCraft II. At APAC Finals, I am glad that we invited three best players from Korea to discuss the balance patch. It is interesting to watch them make fun of each other, so Alisports decide to invite three players from Europe and Americas this time (one player per race). Hope everybody can vote for the best player in your mind (good at talking mostly). Also, stay tuned for our tournaments and reports!
Balance Discussion Video featuring (Z)Dark, (P)Classic, & (T)Maru




Which player would you like to see next discussing the recent balance patch?
Poll: Protoss Representative:

(Vote): ShowTimE
(Vote): Neeb


Poll: Terran Representative:

(Vote): uThermal
(Vote): Kelazhur
(Vote): SpeCial


Poll: Zerg Representative:

(Vote): Bly
(Vote): Elazer
(Vote): Nerchio
(Vote): Serral
(Vote): Scarlett




Voting will end on March 10, 0:00 GMT
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kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary485 Posts
February 17 2018 21:14 GMT
#2
Meh, i tought im gonna see a nice discussion with arguments, but they didn't take much effort to take this serious...
Why so serious?
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
February 17 2018 21:34 GMT
#3
Well, Maru is not made for this kind of talk-show.
Yo_Man
Profile Joined May 2017
43 Posts
February 17 2018 21:37 GMT
#4
the TY video crying about terran that wax subtitled was so much better
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
February 17 2018 21:43 GMT
#5
What a great idea to put Nerchio and Elazer together in this poll :-)
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
February 17 2018 22:05 GMT
#6
Having both Serral and neeb discuss this would make for an amazing conversation.
why even
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 17 2018 22:28 GMT
#7
If we get SpeCial discussing balance it'll make the Koreans look like the epitome of objectivity.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-17 22:40:12
February 17 2018 22:35 GMT
#8
If Neeb and Serral get voted in, I predict that 90%+ of the show will be the terran representative talking ^^
Nerchio and Special would certainly make for a very funny conversation

On February 18 2018 06:37 Yo_Man wrote:
the TY video crying about terran that wax subtitled was so much better


I agree. TY literally had tears in his eyes by the end of the balance complaints :X
Also, he had some decent arguments.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 17 2018 22:43 GMT
#9
On February 18 2018 07:35 ggrrg wrote:
If Neeb and Serral get voted in, I predict that 90%+ of the show will be the terran representative talking ^^
Nerchio and Special would certainly make for a very funny conversation

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On February 18 2018 06:37 Yo_Man wrote:
the TY video crying about terran that wax subtitled was so much better


I agree. TY literally had tears in his eyes by the end of the balance complaints :X
Also, he had some decent arguments.


Finding some decent arguments is a statistical inevitability when you pull out every argument in the book . Though I do agree--TY put effort into that whereas here we have three players going "no you're more OP".
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-17 23:38:44
February 17 2018 23:34 GMT
#10
I would say the most objective players would be Neeb, Khelazhur and Elazer. But if we want to get a shitload of shit we should get Special or uThermal/Showtime and Nerchio.
edit. besides the Korean interview was made before current patch.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 18 2018 00:12 GMT
#11
Nerchio would definitely the most interesting zerg.

We just heard Scarlett and Elazer discuss balance too. Serral would probably say even less than Maru :/.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
February 18 2018 01:29 GMT
#12
Koreans discussing blanace is normally so bad. is it because they don't care and inside them think the game is ok and the hard worker wins? damn.
Bring up the foreigners! :D
Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
February 18 2018 03:15 GMT
#13
Thanks very much to Goldmadman and whoever else for the interview and the translation.

One a completely different note... Classic looks thinner than you'd want to be. Hope he's ok.
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
Sharkken
Profile Joined October 2012
Jordan141 Posts
February 18 2018 03:47 GMT
#14
Hahahaha I think this is a Nerchio <> Elazer poll mostly :D
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 18 2018 04:09 GMT
#15
Neeb vs Showtime has gone back and forth a few times, I'm curious to see who wins
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-18 04:33:38
February 18 2018 04:33 GMT
#16
On February 18 2018 13:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Neeb vs Showtime has gone back and forth a few times, I'm curious to see who wins


I'm hoping for Showtime since he'd give us some good whining about Zerg to match MajOr and Scarlett's whine whereas Neeb would sabotage Protoss by saying something along the lines of early zerg aggro being not too difficult to hold at the very highest level.
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
February 18 2018 04:50 GMT
#17
Uthermal!
Uthermal you still insist you do not know Fighting?
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 18 2018 04:55 GMT
#18
On February 18 2018 13:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2018 13:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Neeb vs Showtime has gone back and forth a few times, I'm curious to see who wins


I'm hoping for Showtime since he'd give us some good whining about Zerg to match MajOr and Scarlett's whine whereas Neeb would sabotage Protoss by saying something along the lines of early zerg aggro being not too difficult to hold at the very highest level.

I also think Showtime is just a better public speaker than Neeb. Neeb's a great guy but he can be very shy and humble, whereas what you say about Showtime giving us some real debate is more interesting.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
February 18 2018 08:21 GMT
#19
This has the potential to be the most boring balance talk ever
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
February 18 2018 09:15 GMT
#20
Serral got more votes than Scarlett, didn't expect that.
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