EPTOn December 28 2017 22:11 Charoisaur wrote:
TRUE was a ro32 player in 2015/2016, then switched to WCS.
Ryung made 2 GSL RO4s.
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On December 28 2017 20:46 Phredxor wrote:
The level of a Ro32 player from 2013/14 is different from one in 2017/18. Also foreigners have gotten better. True also made a GSL RO4.
On December 28 2017 19:10 Charoisaur wrote:
TRUE was a ro32 level player and instantly won the first WCS he played in.
I'd definitely favor Ryung over every foreigner except Neeb and Serral.
On December 28 2017 19:01 FrkFrJss wrote:
Thing is, if you're a ro32 Korean, you're not going to get very far in WCS. Unregionlocking the region would primarily help those who already do well.
Take Ryung, for instance. How far would he get in WCS? He might get ro8, but the foreigners are at a level where Ryung doesn't really scare them.
Others like Losira, Trust, Billowy, Ragnarok, and jjakji, how far would they realistically get in WCS? I'd wager that some wouldn't even make it to the ro16. I don't really see any of these players even winning a WCS tournament.
On December 28 2017 18:39 Argonauta wrote:
I actually agree, Region locking was done in a time when Kespa Teams were still active and SPL was a thing, giving koreans enough chances to compete. The problem nowadays is that if GSL is the only tournament that is active in Korea, once you are out there is nothing to do for a korean pro in months, and being just 3 GSL seasons its really tricky to compete if you are just a ro32 player.
Yes there are also 2 GSL ST but they are more stacked than a GSL and GSL vs the World is a fan pick not a qualifier so if you are a ro32 korean no way you can participate in.
On December 28 2017 17:42 deacon.frost wrote:
It won't happen until the Korean scene is actually worse and beyond saving. Basically look at the blord infestor, they're doing changes yearly, what changes happened when KeSPA teams abandoned SC2 in Korea? None IIRC
Edit: the changes - I mean region lock issue wise. Without KeSPA teams less Koreans can travel abroad and less Koreans can actually live from SC2, which makes the region lock kinda weird state.
All hail JAGW who are still keeping their team.
On December 28 2017 17:09 Diabolique wrote:
Interesting, what a celebration thread about "a new GSL year and a few foreigners achieving great results" turned into.
I am happy about all the foreigners trying their luck in GSL and I hope, some of them get into the RO16 and even further (well, nobody except Scarlett probably has a chance). And hopefully, when this happens, it will force Blizzard to remove the region lock completely.
Interesting, what a celebration thread about "a new GSL year and a few foreigners achieving great results" turned into.
I am happy about all the foreigners trying their luck in GSL and I hope, some of them get into the RO16 and even further (well, nobody except Scarlett probably has a chance). And hopefully, when this happens, it will force Blizzard to remove the region lock completely.
It won't happen until the Korean scene is actually worse and beyond saving. Basically look at the blord infestor, they're doing changes yearly, what changes happened when KeSPA teams abandoned SC2 in Korea? None IIRC
Edit: the changes - I mean region lock issue wise. Without KeSPA teams less Koreans can travel abroad and less Koreans can actually live from SC2, which makes the region lock kinda weird state.
All hail JAGW who are still keeping their team.
I actually agree, Region locking was done in a time when Kespa Teams were still active and SPL was a thing, giving koreans enough chances to compete. The problem nowadays is that if GSL is the only tournament that is active in Korea, once you are out there is nothing to do for a korean pro in months, and being just 3 GSL seasons its really tricky to compete if you are just a ro32 player.
Yes there are also 2 GSL ST but they are more stacked than a GSL and GSL vs the World is a fan pick not a qualifier so if you are a ro32 korean no way you can participate in.
Thing is, if you're a ro32 Korean, you're not going to get very far in WCS. Unregionlocking the region would primarily help those who already do well.
Take Ryung, for instance. How far would he get in WCS? He might get ro8, but the foreigners are at a level where Ryung doesn't really scare them.
Others like Losira, Trust, Billowy, Ragnarok, and jjakji, how far would they realistically get in WCS? I'd wager that some wouldn't even make it to the ro16. I don't really see any of these players even winning a WCS tournament.
TRUE was a ro32 level player and instantly won the first WCS he played in.
I'd definitely favor Ryung over every foreigner except Neeb and Serral.
The level of a Ro32 player from 2013/14 is different from one in 2017/18. Also foreigners have gotten better. True also made a GSL RO4.
TRUE was a ro32 player in 2015/2016, then switched to WCS.
Ryung made 2 GSL RO4s.
So, Cure too ?
