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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
November 14 2017 22:52 GMT
#21
I am so hyped, time to play more and get out of dia 2 finally!

I was rather surprised about how many people seemed interested in sc2 on https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/7cukui/starcraft_ii_wings_of_liberty_now_free/

This might actually really help sc2 in the long run.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-14 23:00:52
November 14 2017 22:55 GMT
#22
StarCraft threads always do well on /r/Games, they're usually comprised of people saying some of the most inane things about how StarCraft killed RTS games by making everything about APM and how years ago they could just play their friends with 5 APM and not care.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
November 14 2017 23:01 GMT
#23
On November 15 2017 07:55 Ansibled wrote:
StarCraft threads always do well on /r/Games, they're usually comprised of people saying some of the most inane things about how StarCraft killed RTS games by making everything about APM and how years ago they could just play their friends with 5 APM and not care.

He okay, interesting. I think the timing, with EA shitting the bed, helped as well.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4280 Posts
November 14 2017 23:31 GMT
#24
On November 15 2017 07:55 Ansibled wrote:
StarCraft threads always do well on /r/Games, they're usually comprised of people saying some of the most inane things about how StarCraft killed RTS games by making everything about APM and how years ago they could just play their friends with 5 APM and not care.

"Ugh, Starcraft. I want RTS games with strategy, not just spammy clickfests!"
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
November 14 2017 23:47 GMT
#25
anyone experieicng crashes for no reason in midle of games? starting happening after this new patch
Progamer
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 14 2017 23:52 GMT
#26
I must admit that I didn't follow much the changes in preparation, so this comes as a real shock to me.

Some of these things look fine, I am almost sad of not being terran, because the new raven looks quite fun (even though probably pretty useless in actual games). But the most absurd is the Disruptor, they have essentially killed the unit. Also Stasis Ward timer seems unnecessary and just plainly annoying.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 15 2017 00:08 GMT
#27
On November 15 2017 08:47 Major wrote:
anyone experieicng crashes for no reason in midle of games? starting happening after this new patch

It's happening to a lot of people, Blizzard said they're aware of the issue and are working on a fix.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10894 Posts
November 15 2017 00:13 GMT
#28
I am really hyped, and now I am getting tons of crashes on ladder losing tons of MMR. guess it's happening to a lot of people I see... shit -_-
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
November 15 2017 00:14 GMT
#29
On November 15 2017 08:47 Major wrote:
anyone experieicng crashes for no reason in midle of games? starting happening after this new patch

Yeah it happened to me once so far
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
November 15 2017 00:20 GMT
#30
I'm glad there is still the option to play WoL/HotS even tho the ladders have merged.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
November 15 2017 00:23 GMT
#31
says down for maintenance but people are streaming it?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
November 15 2017 00:28 GMT
#32
As far as I can see there are no changes from the balance patch that Homestory Cup was played on. Does anyone see a difference?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
November 15 2017 00:29 GMT
#33
On November 15 2017 09:28 sneakyfox wrote:
As far as I can see there are no changes from the balance patch that Homestory Cup was played on. Does anyone see a difference?


mines stay invisible now
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 15 2017 00:31 GMT
#34
On November 15 2017 09:29 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2017 09:28 sneakyfox wrote:
As far as I can see there are no changes from the balance patch that Homestory Cup was played on. Does anyone see a difference?


mines stay invisible now

They don't.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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kinsky
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany368 Posts
November 15 2017 00:32 GMT
#35
On November 15 2017 09:31 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2017 09:29 Zaros wrote:
On November 15 2017 09:28 sneakyfox wrote:
As far as I can see there are no changes from the balance patch that Homestory Cup was played on. Does anyone see a difference?


mines stay invisible now

They don't.

they do.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-15 00:34:18
November 15 2017 00:33 GMT
#36
On November 15 2017 07:52 Musicus wrote:
I am so hyped, time to play more and get out of dia 2 finally!

I was rather surprised about how many people seemed interested in sc2 on
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/7cukui/starcraft_ii_wings_of_liberty_now_free/

This might actually really help sc2 in the long run.


Of course, it's starcraft The name alone will have people at least check it out and I think co-op mode will have people stick around too. Not sure it will help the ladder much though.


Widow Mine
Widow Mines are now revealed while Sentinel Missile is on cooldown.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
November 15 2017 00:34 GMT
#37
On November 15 2017 09:31 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2017 09:29 Zaros wrote:
On November 15 2017 09:28 sneakyfox wrote:
As far as I can see there are no changes from the balance patch that Homestory Cup was played on. Does anyone see a difference?


mines stay invisible now

They don't.


ah sorry they updated the notes earlier they dropped the mine change.
xTJx
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil419 Posts
November 15 2017 00:49 GMT
#38
On November 15 2017 06:23 Digitalz1 wrote:
as a zerg player i have to agree about the mine change being a little to overboard and kinda makes bio feel a little less viable overall a great patch and solid direction going forward.


The problem with widowmines is the drop on mineral lines. Too much damage potential for no risk.
No prejudices, i hate everyone equally.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-15 00:53:27
November 15 2017 00:50 GMT
#39
On November 15 2017 07:01 JackONeill wrote:
So we're up for 6 months of nonsense because they mindlessly jammed into the game everything but the gaz mule, regardless of how silly, poorly designed or unbalanced it is ?
All right.


And don’t forget next year it‘s rinse and repeat, new major balance and design changes will be announced while they try to squeeze out every penny there is left with shitty skins, warchests and whatnot, only thing I really can get behind is announcers and additional campaign stuff like Nova DLC, but we have to face the bitter truth, SC2 will be in low(er) effort mode from now on, since the influx of new players won‘t be as big as people hope it would be.

Worst thing for me personally is that they merged all different ladders AND still have no option to disable skins for old school players.
And fuck this High Templar attack, this is so stupid...

Edit: And they even left this observer/overseer vision thing in?!?! What a joke, seriously.
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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1966 Posts
November 15 2017 00:54 GMT
#40
On November 15 2017 09:49 xTJx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2017 06:23 Digitalz1 wrote:
as a zerg player i have to agree about the mine change being a little to overboard and kinda makes bio feel a little less viable overall a great patch and solid direction going forward.


The problem with widowmines is the drop on mineral lines. Too much damage potential for no risk.


So going by that logic Oracles still must be crazy OP, right?
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