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With only four players remaining in the final GSL of 2017,  sOs and Stats were the first semifinalists to take the stage. Though Stats was assured his place at BlizzCon, only a victory over the Splyce Protoss would keep sOs' dreams for a spot in the year end tournament alive, making this PvP a must win match for the two time WCS world champion.
After throwing away four adepts to only kill two of Stats' probes, sOs lost ten workers to oracles, triggering him to go for a glaives all in. sOs killed Stats' third while attacking Stats’ natural, but failed to break the Splyce Protoss and went down 0-1
sOs evened the series on Odyssey. Stats killed sOs' expansion with stalkers while researching blink, but failed to build detection and died to dark templars.
In game 3, sOs killed nine probes with a proxy oracle, prompting Stats to move into phoenixes. sOs went into double stargate, while keeping Stats pinned at home. With phoenix range complete, he dealt the final blow to go up 2-1.
sOs applied early pressure featuring a pair of immortals while getting +1 attack and charge in game four. Stats took a third as sOs backed off, but the Jin Air Protoss was merely reloading with archons and zealots. He crashed into Stats' natural to move within one win of the finals.
sOs' proxy robo went unscouted on Newkirk Precinct. Producing off three gateways, sOs forced Stats to abandon his natural. Stats held his ramps with forcefields for a time, but a warp prism ferried an immortal onto the high ground, restoring vision and giving sOs the game and match.
sOs is now 8th in the Korean Standings for WCS, and he could lock his return to BlizzCon with a win in the Code S Finals—a tournament that he has yet to win.
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On September 06 2017 22:07 beepbeeeeeeep wrote:
It's happening isn't it
yes, it is :-)
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And one "community-appointed trash korean" in the finals, one.
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I am a big fan of sOs from the first time I saw how he play in Woongjin Stars, before he got his first Blizzcon title. But I did not like the job done by Tastosis today, despite how much I love them. Casting in favor of one of the two players should be against any ethics in eSports. It is like Stats have not existed today, and we talk about a very recent GSL champion, it is really not fair no matter who plays, no matter how strong or cool he/she is. Of course all of us have favor players, Artosis never hides his love towards players like herO or TY, but today was really sOs against...uuuum... some random guy for instance.
Still, happy for sOs! Astonishing victory! 
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I can't help but think that Stats was definitely off today. No way he would normally lose to sOs.
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No double championship for Stats now.
Also, the winner of Inno vs Dark will be the clear favorite over sOs.
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I really want $O$ to win Blizzcon so obviously GOGO $O$.
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$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know....
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On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know....
For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark.
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On September 06 2017 22:07 beepbeeeeeeep wrote:
It's happening isn't it
No it isn't. The fact that inno exists is such a damnable problem for sOs
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On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark.
Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke
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On September 06 2017 22:40 Veluvian wrote:I am a big fan of sOs from the first time I saw how he play in Woongjin Stars, before he got his first Blizzcon title. But I did not like the job done by Tastosis today, despite how much I love them. Casting in favor of one of the two players should be against any ethics in eSports. It is like Stats have not existed today, and we talk about a very recent GSL champion, it is really not fair no matter who plays, no matter how strong or cool he/she is. Of course all of us have favor players, Artosis never hides his love towards players like herO or TY, but today was really sOs against...uuuum... some random guy for instance. Still, happy for sOs! Astonishing victory!
i can't imagine being bored enough to feel moral outrage about perceived caster bias in starcraft
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Canada8988 Posts
Of course he won, that guy make no sense
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Btw the entire Splyce team got rekt by sOs in a bo3 (TY), a bo5 (Solar) and a bo7 (Stats), they are even worse than KT atm.
I think only the former KT ace Zest can win a bo9 series against sOs to save them, they should consider to let Zest in.
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I'm a Terran player, but I honestly may pull for SOS to win, even if it's Innovation he faces in the finals. His creativity, boldness, and unpredictability is what Starcraft is all about. SOS will pull any build out at any time. I hope he shows us something new in the finals.
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On September 07 2017 00:16 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2017 22:40 Veluvian wrote:I am a big fan of sOs from the first time I saw how he play in Woongjin Stars, before he got his first Blizzcon title. But I did not like the job done by Tastosis today, despite how much I love them. Casting in favor of one of the two players should be against any ethics in eSports. It is like Stats have not existed today, and we talk about a very recent GSL champion, it is really not fair no matter who plays, no matter how strong or cool he/she is. Of course all of us have favor players, Artosis never hides his love towards players like herO or TY, but today was really sOs against...uuuum... some random guy for instance. Still, happy for sOs! Astonishing victory! i can't imagine being bored enough to feel moral outrage about perceived caster bias in starcraft
Haha well said @brickrd , moral outrage is the flavor of this century so far.
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On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke
If Inno gets pass Dark, he will be massively confident and then smash sOs like a punching bag, no doubt.
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On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke
Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since.
And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV.
If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle.
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i cheer for $o$ in the finals and hope it will be better than 2016 S2
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On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle.
By "all of LotV", you mean they ahve only played 3 offline series and Bogus has a 5-2 score lead? Well sample size too small I guess.
Thank you for reminding me though, I almost thought they have played enough games like HotS, now I will favor sOs vs. Bogus for both hype and result wise.
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On September 07 2017 00:57 Alarak89 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. By "all of LotV", you mean they ahve only played 3 offline series and Bogus has a 5-2 score lead? Well sample size too small I guess. Thank you for reminding me though, I almost thought they have played enough games like HotS, now I will favor sOs vs. Bogus for both hype and result wise.
I mean small size or not, sOs is not the statistical favorite, period.
He might win GSL, but favoring him to do so is quite simply wrong. Upsets do exist, but they are upsets for a reason.
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On September 07 2017 01:00 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 00:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. By "all of LotV", you mean they ahve only played 3 offline series and Bogus has a 5-2 score lead? Well sample size too small I guess. Thank you for reminding me though, I almost thought they have played enough games like HotS, now I will favor sOs vs. Bogus for both hype and result wise. I mean small size or not, sOs is not the statistical favorite, period. He might win GSL, but favoring him to do so is quite simply wrong. Upsets do exist, but they are upsets for a reason.
Anyway, PvT is easier match-up for all Protoss to handle atm, so I'll root for a PvT final.
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Inno, is his whole career, only lost to macro-based players with good early aggression. Mind game and messy plays don't work against him.
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On September 07 2017 01:17 Alarak89 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 01:00 pvsnp wrote:On September 07 2017 00:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. By "all of LotV", you mean they ahve only played 3 offline series and Bogus has a 5-2 score lead? Well sample size too small I guess. Thank you for reminding me though, I almost thought they have played enough games like HotS, now I will favor sOs vs. Bogus for both hype and result wise. I mean small size or not, sOs is not the statistical favorite, period. He might win GSL, but favoring him to do so is quite simply wrong. Upsets do exist, but they are upsets for a reason. Anyway, PvT is easier match-up for all Protoss to handle atm, so I'll root for a PvT final.
Mass Oraclea tho
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On September 07 2017 01:20 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 01:17 Alarak89 wrote:On September 07 2017 01:00 pvsnp wrote:On September 07 2017 00:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. By "all of LotV", you mean they ahve only played 3 offline series and Bogus has a 5-2 score lead? Well sample size too small I guess. Thank you for reminding me though, I almost thought they have played enough games like HotS, now I will favor sOs vs. Bogus for both hype and result wise. I mean small size or not, sOs is not the statistical favorite, period. He might win GSL, but favoring him to do so is quite simply wrong. Upsets do exist, but they are upsets for a reason. Anyway, PvT is easier match-up for all Protoss to handle atm, so I'll root for a PvT final. Mass Oraclea tho
Well, Dear has already told us the outcome, we'll see how Classic (the oracle king) doing on Monday though.
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Honestly, sOs might just be the player I feel the easiest to underestimate.
But when he wins I'm hype af.
If Inno beats Dark I'll be cheering for him, but should Dark advance I want sOs to show us some next level BS and win that GSL title that he is missing
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I wonder how much of game four was planned by sOs.
So he intentionally faked an allin and then made it obvious that the warp prism was halluc, so that Stats knew it was a bluff and that sOs was really expanding. Then he cancels the expand are really goes allin, knowing Stats was getting a 3rd?
Whether he did all that on the spot or had it planned, that was seriously impressive
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On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle.
Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid
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On September 06 2017 22:29 Nebuchad wrote:
And one "community-appointed trash korean" in the finals, one.
sOs is a trash player except when he isn't.
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On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid
Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals.
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I just hope that the INno vs Dark finals will not be as one sided as Dark vs TY ...
Then the charity showmatch against the best code A player is a funny thing, last year we had SSL finalists vs code S finalists, in 2017 1st code A player vs gsl finalist, a little downside but still fun
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Mr. esports writer, for game 4 details can you please include the single high templar in the warp prism used to feedback the mothership right before the fight and include that in the clip as well? That was honestly the sexiest and most deliberate move I have seen all season, maybe year. What a game.
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On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals.
...you're a fucking idiot
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On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot
Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism.
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On September 07 2017 04:02 Kerdinand wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism.
Top 3 worst fans:
ByuN fans, Inno fans and Neeb fans.
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On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot
Woow, you are such a great and nice guy! It was a pleasure to meet you. See you in ... 2 days? Or two weeks? :-)
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On September 07 2017 04:10 mizenhauer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 04:02 Kerdinand wrote:On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism. Top 3 worst fans: ByuN fans, Inno fans and Neeb fans.
Can't think of a better top 3.
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On September 07 2017 04:32 leublix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 04:10 mizenhauer wrote:On September 07 2017 04:02 Kerdinand wrote:On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism. Top 3 worst fans: ByuN fans, Inno fans and Neeb fans. Can't think of a better top 3.
the cure fan.
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On September 07 2017 04:10 mizenhauer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 04:02 Kerdinand wrote:On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism. Top 3 worst fans: ByuN fans, Inno fans and Neeb fans.
Neeb doesn't have any real fans, just NA bandwagoners
sOs on the other hand tho
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On September 07 2017 04:10 mizenhauer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 04:02 Kerdinand wrote:On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism. Top 3 worst fans: ByuN fans, Inno fans and Neeb fans.
I don't see Inno fans hyperbole the shit out of him tbh. He backs everything up with actual results, results come first and then people talk about him. Byun fans get off on every single micro clip no matter how impressive it was.
Mvp fans and Taeja fans are easily above Inno fans when it's about being annoying. Both overhyped and fans of both of them only wanna look at the results which help their narrative. I like soO fans though, usually nice people 
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On September 07 2017 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Mvp fans and Taeja fans are easily above Inno fans when it's about being annoying.
If you wanna shit talk stuchiu and Olli at least have the balls to mention them
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On September 07 2017 04:41 Gurbak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 04:32 leublix wrote:On September 07 2017 04:10 mizenhauer wrote:On September 07 2017 04:02 Kerdinand wrote:On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:
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For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism. Top 3 worst fans: ByuN fans, Inno fans and Neeb fans. Can't think of a better top 3. the cure fan.
We all know which one you're talking about :p
On September 07 2017 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:I don't see Inno fans hyperbole the shit out of him tbh. He backs everything up with actual results, results come first and then people talk about him. Byun fans get off on every single micro clip no matter how impressive it was. Mvp fans and Taeja fans are easily above Inno fans when it's about being annoying. Both overhyped and fans of both of them only wanna look at the results which help their narrative. I like soO fans though, usually nice people
Viper, maybe instead of doing a community power rank for the players you should do a power rank for the players' fan bases.
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On September 07 2017 04:02 Kerdinand wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism.
You DO know I'm a huge sOs fan right?
GumBa is the inno fan.
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i hate inno and i know he is going to destroy rekt sos
the only open question - will the massacre be worse than inno vs soo?
sos is no soulkey he's not gonna get that reverse sweep
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On September 07 2017 04:54 mizenhauer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 04:41 Gurbak wrote:On September 07 2017 04:32 leublix wrote:On September 07 2017 04:10 mizenhauer wrote:On September 07 2017 04:02 Kerdinand wrote:On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:
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Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism. Top 3 worst fans: ByuN fans, Inno fans and Neeb fans. Can't think of a better top 3. the cure fan. We all know which one you're talking about :p Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:I don't see Inno fans hyperbole the shit out of him tbh. He backs everything up with actual results, results come first and then people talk about him. Byun fans get off on every single micro clip no matter how impressive it was. Mvp fans and Taeja fans are easily above Inno fans when it's about being annoying. Both overhyped and fans of both of them only wanna look at the results which help their narrative. I like soO fans though, usually nice people Viper, maybe instead of doing a community power rank for the players you should do a power rank for the players' fan bases.
I feel like most people don't really have a feeling for this, you need to read a lot of threads to come to correct conclusions here
On September 07 2017 04:52 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Mvp fans and Taeja fans are easily above Inno fans when it's about being annoying. If you wanna shit talk stuchiu and Olli at least have the balls to mention them
Haha not bad  Don't worry though i have no problem to shittalk stuchiu publicly. Olli doesn't deserve any shittalking, he isn't afraid to argue the topic and even though i disagree with some of his conclusions it's still somewhat productive and interesting :D
Other Mvp, Tajea fans though... The narrative is bigger than the facts
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On September 07 2017 05:17 fishjie wrote:
i hate inno and i know he is going to destroy rekt sos
the only open question - will the massacre be worse than inno vs soo?
sos is no soulkey he's not gonna get that reverse sweep
Every sign points to it being pure carnage...the only sOs pro sign is that it's and odd year
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As long as we are all busy constructing strawmen:
ByuN fans prop him up as some kind of god, even when he sucks.
Neeb fans are basically nationalists who can't tell the difference between him and a US flag.
Mvp and/or TaeJa fans can't seem to comprehend the linear progression of time.
Zest fans only love his biceps.
Inno fans only love the robot jokes.
sOs fans are a bunch of gold diggers.
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On September 07 2017 05:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 04:54 mizenhauer wrote:On September 07 2017 04:41 Gurbak wrote:On September 07 2017 04:32 leublix wrote:On September 07 2017 04:10 mizenhauer wrote:On September 07 2017 04:02 Kerdinand wrote:On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:
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Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since.
And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV.
If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism. Top 3 worst fans: ByuN fans, Inno fans and Neeb fans. Can't think of a better top 3. the cure fan. We all know which one you're talking about :p On September 07 2017 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:I don't see Inno fans hyperbole the shit out of him tbh. He backs everything up with actual results, results come first and then people talk about him. Byun fans get off on every single micro clip no matter how impressive it was. Mvp fans and Taeja fans are easily above Inno fans when it's about being annoying. Both overhyped and fans of both of them only wanna look at the results which help their narrative. I like soO fans though, usually nice people Viper, maybe instead of doing a community power rank for the players you should do a power rank for the players' fan bases. I feel like most people don't really have a feeling for this, you need to read a lot of threads to come to correct conclusions here Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 04:52 Elentos wrote:On September 07 2017 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Mvp fans and Taeja fans are easily above Inno fans when it's about being annoying. If you wanna shit talk stuchiu and Olli at least have the balls to mention them Haha not bad Don't worry though i have no problem to shittalk stuchiu publicly. Olli doesn't deserve any shittalking, he isn't afraid to argue the topic and even though i disagree with some of his conclusions it's still somewhat productive and interesting :D Other Mvp, Tajea fans though... The narrative is bigger than the facts
Never forget that Olli declared Taeja the teamleague GOAT.
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On September 07 2017 05:26 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 05:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 07 2017 04:54 mizenhauer wrote:On September 07 2017 04:41 Gurbak wrote:On September 07 2017 04:32 leublix wrote:On September 07 2017 04:10 mizenhauer wrote:On September 07 2017 04:02 Kerdinand wrote:On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:
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Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism. Top 3 worst fans: ByuN fans, Inno fans and Neeb fans. Can't think of a better top 3. the cure fan. We all know which one you're talking about :p On September 07 2017 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:I don't see Inno fans hyperbole the shit out of him tbh. He backs everything up with actual results, results come first and then people talk about him. Byun fans get off on every single micro clip no matter how impressive it was. Mvp fans and Taeja fans are easily above Inno fans when it's about being annoying. Both overhyped and fans of both of them only wanna look at the results which help their narrative. I like soO fans though, usually nice people Viper, maybe instead of doing a community power rank for the players you should do a power rank for the players' fan bases. I feel like most people don't really have a feeling for this, you need to read a lot of threads to come to correct conclusions here On September 07 2017 04:52 Elentos wrote:On September 07 2017 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Mvp fans and Taeja fans are easily above Inno fans when it's about being annoying. If you wanna shit talk stuchiu and Olli at least have the balls to mention them Haha not bad Don't worry though i have no problem to shittalk stuchiu publicly. Olli doesn't deserve any shittalking, he isn't afraid to argue the topic and even though i disagree with some of his conclusions it's still somewhat productive and interesting :D Other Mvp, Tajea fans though... The narrative is bigger than the facts Never forget that Olli declared Taeja the teamleague GOAT.
That's one of these conclusions which were kinda weird, yes :D
Though tbf, iirc he said Taeja needs to be considered, not directly stating he is GOAT
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pretty sure we can all agree that avlio fans are the worst
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Oh. and Life fans are those masochists denying they are in abusive relationships.
Saved the best for last.
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On September 07 2017 05:23 pvsnp wrote:
As long as we are all busy constructing strawmen:
ByuN fans prop him up as some kind of god, even when he sucks.
Neeb fans are basically nationalists who can't tell the difference between him and a US flag.
Mvp and/or TaeJa fans can't seem to comprehend the linear progression of time.
Zest fans only love his biceps.
Inno fans only love the robot jokes.
sOs fans are a bunch of gold diggers.
I think Zest fans are fairly reasonable, we even call him bad when he is bad :D
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On September 07 2017 05:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 05:23 pvsnp wrote:
As long as we are all busy constructing strawmen:
ByuN fans prop him up as some kind of god, even when he sucks.
Neeb fans are basically nationalists who can't tell the difference between him and a US flag.
Mvp and/or TaeJa fans can't seem to comprehend the linear progression of time.
Zest fans only love his biceps.
Inno fans only love the robot jokes.
sOs fans are a bunch of gold diggers. I think Zest fans are fairly reasonable, we even call him bad when he is bad :D
I dunno. They can be pretty annoying
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Neeb and Byun fans are the worst indeed.
They may not be the best specialists of the game ( otherwise they would have supported Cure honestly ) but they represent the largest part of the player base. So they keep it alive. So we have to deal with that ( really hard on reddit, not so annoying over here).
The Mvp and Taeja ones who claim they are the GOAT are also irritating.
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On September 07 2017 05:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 05:23 pvsnp wrote:
As long as we are all busy constructing strawmen:
ByuN fans prop him up as some kind of god, even when he sucks.
Neeb fans are basically nationalists who can't tell the difference between him and a US flag.
Mvp and/or TaeJa fans can't seem to comprehend the linear progression of time.
Zest fans only love his biceps.
Inno fans only love the robot jokes.
sOs fans are a bunch of gold diggers. I think Zest fans are fairly reasonable, we even call him bad when he is bad :D
I'm a big fan of his, and I certainly don't shy away from criticizing.
When he's good, "Zest is best" is said straight.
When he's bad, "Zest is best" just turns into an ironic lament.
A motto for all occasions!
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On September 07 2017 05:33 pvsnp wrote:
Oh. and Life fans are those masochists denying they are in abusive relationships.
Saved the best for last.
Does that make soO fans flagellants? Since one of the joys of being a soO fan is getting to write stuff like this:
Third time’s apparently not the charm. In some twisted world the silver lining is that soO can’t lose in a seventh GSL finals, but it’s impossible to ask a competitor to accept losing now in order to avoid greater pain later. Pain is a good term to describe soO’s form with. Simply put, he looks anguished in ZvT. Roach aggression, pairing mutalisks or hydralisks with ling bane, hatchery first, pool first, overlord speed, reaching ultralisks and vipers. None of it has worked.
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soO fans are the only ones with a heart. You gotta feel for the man.
Besides, soO is just taking his own advice.
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I had a problem with sOs fans as of late because I just could not believe he would advance past the ro16... now though, I respect their faith and their God has answerd
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On September 07 2017 05:32 beepbeeeeeeep wrote:
pretty sure we can all agree that avlio fans are the worst
I dont think so, they dont take this seriously, unlike the crusading haters who feel invested with a divine mission, it s all the more ridiculous.
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"Since I've already lost a lot of games lately against INnoVation, I really want to get my revenge and beat him. That would be nice. I don't know if I can do it though..."
Points for honesty. Inno vs sOs finals plz.
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I don't know how INno could beat Dark nowadays.
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On September 07 2017 06:09 DieuCure wrote:
I don't know how INno could beat Dark nowadays.
Probably by building less than 100 scvs. Attacking before Hive would also be nice.
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On September 07 2017 04:10 mizenhauer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 04:02 Kerdinand wrote:On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism. Top 3 worst fans: ByuN fans, Inno fans and Neeb fans.
Top 3 worst fans are Taeja fans, Taeja fans and Taeja fans.
INno and Dark will be favored against sOs, but he seems to be on fire and anything can happen in a bo7. The hype will defnitly be here the final day.
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On September 06 2017 23:25 pvsnp wrote:
No double championship for Stats now.
Also, the winner of Inno vs Dark will be the clear favorite over sOs.
the real GSL finals are saturday, because sOs will get stomped by both innovation and dark...
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Feel bad for Stats. Can tell he tilted after game 2 and it just went downhill from there for him.
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On September 07 2017 01:41 Fango wrote:
I wonder how much of game four was planned by sOs.
So he intentionally faked an allin and then made it obvious that the warp prism was halluc, so that Stats knew it was a bluff and that sOs was really expanding. Then he cancels the expand are really goes allin, knowing Stats was getting a 3rd?
Whether he did all that on the spot or had it planned, that was seriously impressive
I wonder that too. The casters sold it to me quite convicingly that it was all planned XD.
Personally I believe the build was set, because of how crisp his build was - charge, templar archives for the mothership snipe and archons were quite quick.
I'm not sure if the fake warp prism was that big a deal though.
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sOs... what a literal god
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On September 07 2017 06:58 Malgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2017 23:25 pvsnp wrote:
No double championship for Stats now.
Also, the winner of Inno vs Dark will be the clear favorite over sOs. the real GSL finals are saturday, because sOs will get stomped by both innovation and dark...
Nah. He will double gate either of them in their base four times in a row and win even if that build is not viable anymore. He's that godly.
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On September 07 2017 05:48 Sakat wrote:
I had a problem with sOs fans as of late because I just could not believe he would advance past the ro16... now though, I respect their faith and their God has answerd
their god is cruel to give them hope only to have inno stomp smash sos in the finals (assuming its a given inno will make it to finals)
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Look at how many players are competing for the final two spots to Blizccon this year: herO, sOs, ByuN, Maru, Solar, aLive, Classic and Rogue...GSL ST2 will be a hell for sure, even from the qualifier stage, hopefully they will divide all 7 players into different brackets.
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And did you notice? We have a perfect 3P3T2Z race distribution so far in Korea region, bow to your Blizzard balance team again.
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On September 07 2017 06:50 Mun_Su wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 04:10 mizenhauer wrote:On September 07 2017 04:02 Kerdinand wrote:On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism. Top 3 worst fans: ByuN fans, Inno fans and Neeb fans. Top 3 worst fans are Taeja fans, Taeja fans and Taeja fans.
Heretic. TaeJa fans are great.
Also, I've had this crazy feeling after reading this thread that sOs will reverse sweep INnoVation in the finals.
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On September 07 2017 09:59 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 06:50 Mun_Su wrote:On September 07 2017 04:10 mizenhauer wrote:On September 07 2017 04:02 Kerdinand wrote:On September 07 2017 03:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 03:13 Diabolique wrote:On September 07 2017 01:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 07 2017 00:43 pvsnp wrote:On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:
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For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke Inno hasn't choked in a finals since 2013, and he's played (and won) seven of them since. And sOs has lost every series he's played vs Inno since 2015. Which is to say, all of LotV. If that is sOs's only hope he better be praying for a miracle. Yea I know. The fact people aren't looking at inno v dark as the gsl finals is fucking stupid Well, you are right that it is a fact. It is a fact, that this is the fight for the second place. Still good, but it is definitely not the finals. ...you're a fucking idiot Sometimes I feel like the Inno fanboys take it a bit too far with their fanaticism. Top 3 worst fans: ByuN fans, Inno fans and Neeb fans. Top 3 worst fans are Taeja fans, Taeja fans and Taeja fans. Heretic. TaeJa fans are great. Also, I've had this crazy feeling after reading this thread that sOs will reverse sweep INnoVation in the finals.
Nah he is not Soulkey so either he will 4-0 Bogus or Bogus will 4-0 him again.
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On September 07 2017 06:58 Malgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2017 23:25 pvsnp wrote:
No double championship for Stats now.
Also, the winner of Inno vs Dark will be the clear favorite over sOs. the real GSL finals are saturday, because sOs will get stomped by both innovation and dark...
I would not underestimate sOs, he has reached his best form since 2016 downfall.
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sOs = SoSick
Damn. havent won anything for 2 years. appears out of nowehere and wins GSL at the last minute to qualify for Blizzcon and wins Blizzcon
So sick.
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sOs on his biennial "Win Blizzcon Tour". Loving it :D
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On September 07 2017 10:42 ukiya2004 wrote:
sOs = SoSick
Damn. havent won anything for 2 years. appears out of nowehere and wins GSL at the last minute to qualify for Blizzcon and wins Blizzcon
So sick.
You forgot IEM Taipei in 2016.
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On September 06 2017 23:57 Cricketer12 wrote:No it isn't. The fact that inno exists is such a damnable problem for sOs
I dunno dude I think sos has a better chance at taking inno out than dark in the finals
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sOs said in the semi interview that he is waiting for Bogus in the final, Bogus said he wants to face sOs in the Ro.8 two weeks ago. Then just let this SC2 version of "fight of the century" happen again and I'm so ready right now. Its PPV might be higher than Mayweather vs. Pacquiao
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On September 07 2017 13:34 Alarak89 wrote:sOs said in the semi interview that he is waiting for Bogus in the final, Bogus said he wants to face sOs in the Ro.8 two weeks ago. Then just let this SC2 version of "fight of the century" happen again and I'm so ready right now. Its PPV might be higher than Mayweather vs. Pacquiao
"Since I've already lost a lot of games lately against INnoVation, I really want to get my revenge and beat him. That would be nice. I don't know if I can do it though..."
He said it would be nice if he won, but his chances are meh. Not sure if honest or just Korean things.
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Love sos. Good for him. His strategies are a lot of fun to watch. He really is a true genius.
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There starts the sOs hype train...let's just hope it lasts longer than the one of Rogue.
Crazy builds are powerful in PvP but sOs will need much more than that to take down a non-Protoss player
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Is no one writing for TL anymore? These game recaps are super poor and luckluster.
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The games was super poor too, so, it's realistic.
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On September 07 2017 14:54 FvRGg wrote:
Is no one writing for TL anymore? These game recaps are super poor and luckluster.
These games are surprisingly similar to my Diamond ladder PvP experience so what do you expect?
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On September 07 2017 15:13 yht9657 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 14:54 FvRGg wrote:
Is no one writing for TL anymore? These game recaps are super poor and luckluster. These games are surprisingly similar to my Diamond ladder PvP experience so what do you expect?
I'm glad that sOs and Stats finally reach Diamond league Protoss level.
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On September 07 2017 15:44 Alarak89 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 15:13 yht9657 wrote:On September 07 2017 14:54 FvRGg wrote:
Is no one writing for TL anymore? These game recaps are super poor and luckluster. These games are surprisingly similar to my Diamond ladder PvP experience so what do you expect? I'm glad that sOs and Stats finally reach Diamond league Protoss level.
No offense but DT rush, proxy stargate into 3SG phoenix war, fast immortal push and proxy robo are truly a great deal of my ladder experience
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On September 07 2017 03:55 RoninKenshin wrote:
Mr. esports writer, for game 4 details can you please include the single high templar in the warp prism used to feedback the mothership right before the fight and include that in the clip as well? That was honestly the sexiest and most deliberate move I have seen all season, maybe year. What a game.
Absolutely agree on this. The best moment of the whole series. And I must say I was not surprised by the outcome of that match. Stats has guaranteed spot at BlizzCon and already won GSL this year, maybe he just focus on a SSL title, since he doesn't have one yet. Or made a bet againt himself But either of that is or is not true - sOs was on fucking fire. Gotta love that guy when his BS and mind games work, it seems like he's a pure genius. Also, it is an odd year, so it must be pretty clear to anyone that sOs is on his way to win another BlizzCon, right?  But srsly, if he could pull off a BlizzCon win after a GSL victory this year, there would be no more debate about SC2 bonjwa - three times world champion and most earnings from SC2 ever 
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sOs games seem to always include a lot of mistakes from both players. I don't think that the games of sOs are impressive by themselves, but taking a step back and looking at the bigger picture changes this. Stats seldom makes mistakes, but vs sOs he does.
I find it hard to predict the outcome when sOs is playing. All I hope for is that sOs will keep his "win every attended Blizzcon". It would be fun if he also kept winning every odd year, i.e. 2013, 2015 etc.
On the other hand, I want to see more games from not sOs at Blizzcon. sOs games have a different quality than other games.
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On September 07 2017 05:18 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 05:17 fishjie wrote:
i hate inno and i know he is going to destroy rekt sos
the only open question - will the massacre be worse than inno vs soo?
sos is no soulkey he's not gonna get that reverse sweep Every sign points to it being pure carnage...the only sOs pro sign is that it's and odd year
Well, even though I agree that in the possible event of innovation vs sOs, the latter is a heavy underdog but I wouldn't say that "everything points to it being a carnage".
Innovation did lose in SSL to all 3 Protosses and has under 50% winrate in TvP in last month. Maybe it is just a small fluctuation in his form but it also may mean he did slip and bit in this matchup. He did repair his TvT maybe at the cost of practicing less of TvP?
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GSL rewards 3 times the monney than SSL in Final I think... so I can't see Stats focusing more on SSL (also he don't even know if he'll face a toss or a zerg in ssl
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On September 07 2017 16:57 Mun_Su wrote:
GSL rewards 3 times the monney than SSL in Final I think... so I can't see Stats focusing more on SSL (also he don't even know if he'll face a toss or a zerg in ssl
Four times actually.
GSL: $35,656, ₩ 40,000,000, 4000 WCS Points
SSL: $8,860, ₩ 10,000,000, 1500 WCS Points
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On September 07 2017 16:57 Mun_Su wrote:
GSL rewards 3 times the monney than SSL in Final I think... so I can't see Stats focusing more on SSL (also he don't even know if he'll face a toss or a zerg in ssl
Maybe it's not about money for him, maybe he just wants to complete his collection of trophies But anyone can lose to sOs, that guy is unpredictable as hell. He is able to perform absolute fantastically and absolute bronze the day after. And Stats already had some downs in his form this year. Point is, that there could be numerous different factors why did Stats lose.
Last note - if it all was about money for him, the easiest way to get some is to bet against himself. I know that matchfixing is not a popular theme, but considering "money profit above all else" scenario, imagine that you are 100 % guaranteed BlizzCon attendee, you already won GSL this year and bets are heavily in your favor on that match. Why simply not to bet against yourself, especially when you can always defend yourself with "I played against known cheeser and trickster that caught me off guard"? Easy money. But I'm not saying that Stats did any of these, of course. My opinion is that he just lost to non standard play which is his commonly known weakness.
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On September 07 2017 17:56 maitiky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 16:57 Mun_Su wrote:
GSL rewards 3 times the monney than SSL in Final I think... so I can't see Stats focusing more on SSL (also he don't even know if he'll face a toss or a zerg in ssl Maybe it's not about money for him, maybe he just wants to complete his collection of trophies But anyone can lose to sOs, that guy is unpredictable as hell. He is able to perform absolute fantastically and absolute bronze the day after. And Stats already had some downs in his form this year. Point is, that there could be numerous different factors why did Stats lose. Last note - if it all was about money for him, the easiest way to get some is to bet against himself. I know that matchfixing is not a popular theme, but considering "money profit above all else" scenario, imagine that you are 100 % guaranteed BlizzCon attendee, you already won GSL this year and bets are heavily in your favor on that match. Why simply not to bet against yourself, especially when you can always defend yourself with "I played against known cheeser and trickster that caught me off guard"? Easy money. But I'm not saying that Stats did any of these, of course. My opinion is that he just lost to non standard play which is his commonly known weakness.
Lol are you serious?
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On September 07 2017 17:20 Zephyp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 16:57 Mun_Su wrote:
GSL rewards 3 times the monney than SSL in Final I think... so I can't see Stats focusing more on SSL (also he don't even know if he'll face a toss or a zerg in ssl Four times actually. GSL: $35,656, ₩ 40,000,000, 4000 WCS Points SSL: $8,860, ₩ 10,000,000, 1500 WCS Points
Wow. GSL Final is so much rewarding...
On September 07 2017 18:17 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 17:56 maitiky wrote:On September 07 2017 16:57 Mun_Su wrote:
GSL rewards 3 times the monney than SSL in Final I think... so I can't see Stats focusing more on SSL (also he don't even know if he'll face a toss or a zerg in ssl Maybe it's not about money for him, maybe he just wants to complete his collection of trophies But anyone can lose to sOs, that guy is unpredictable as hell. He is able to perform absolute fantastically and absolute bronze the day after. And Stats already had some downs in his form this year. Point is, that there could be numerous different factors why did Stats lose. Last note - if it all was about money for him, the easiest way to get some is to bet against himself. I know that matchfixing is not a popular theme, but considering "money profit above all else" scenario, imagine that you are 100 % guaranteed BlizzCon attendee, you already won GSL this year and bets are heavily in your favor on that match. Why simply not to bet against yourself, especially when you can always defend yourself with "I played against known cheeser and trickster that caught me off guard"? Easy money. But I'm not saying that Stats did any of these, of course. My opinion is that he just lost to non standard play which is his commonly known weakness. Lol are you serious?
Same lol. Of course it isn't just about monney all the time. Staying out of jail is also quite important.
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On September 07 2017 18:17 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 17:56 maitiky wrote:On September 07 2017 16:57 Mun_Su wrote:
GSL rewards 3 times the monney than SSL in Final I think... so I can't see Stats focusing more on SSL (also he don't even know if he'll face a toss or a zerg in ssl Maybe it's not about money for him, maybe he just wants to complete his collection of trophies But anyone can lose to sOs, that guy is unpredictable as hell. He is able to perform absolute fantastically and absolute bronze the day after. And Stats already had some downs in his form this year. Point is, that there could be numerous different factors why did Stats lose. Last note - if it all was about money for him, the easiest way to get some is to bet against himself. I know that matchfixing is not a popular theme, but considering "money profit above all else" scenario, imagine that you are 100 % guaranteed BlizzCon attendee, you already won GSL this year and bets are heavily in your favor on that match. Why simply not to bet against yourself, especially when you can always defend yourself with "I played against known cheeser and trickster that caught me off guard"? Easy money. But I'm not saying that Stats did any of these, of course. My opinion is that he just lost to non standard play which is his commonly known weakness. Lol are you serious?
"But I'm not saying that Stats did any of these, of course." Any other question?
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WTF Stats, 5 points man!
Ahem.
Go sOs!
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On September 07 2017 17:20 Zephyp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 16:57 Mun_Su wrote:
GSL rewards 3 times the monney than SSL in Final I think... so I can't see Stats focusing more on SSL (also he don't even know if he'll face a toss or a zerg in ssl Four times actually. GSL: $35,656, ₩ 40,000,000, 4000 WCS Points SSL: $8,860, ₩ 10,000,000, 1500 WCS Points
That's quite unfair. And I don't mean in terms of money, but WCS points. Winning a league (albeit with playoffs) is definitely harder than a knockout competition, and more reflective of skill. Random variables like bracket luck are reduced, consistency of form is rewarded.
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On September 07 2017 18:43 maitiky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 18:17 Phredxor wrote:On September 07 2017 17:56 maitiky wrote:On September 07 2017 16:57 Mun_Su wrote:
GSL rewards 3 times the monney than SSL in Final I think... so I can't see Stats focusing more on SSL (also he don't even know if he'll face a toss or a zerg in ssl Maybe it's not about money for him, maybe he just wants to complete his collection of trophies But anyone can lose to sOs, that guy is unpredictable as hell. He is able to perform absolute fantastically and absolute bronze the day after. And Stats already had some downs in his form this year. Point is, that there could be numerous different factors why did Stats lose. Last note - if it all was about money for him, the easiest way to get some is to bet against himself. I know that matchfixing is not a popular theme, but considering "money profit above all else" scenario, imagine that you are 100 % guaranteed BlizzCon attendee, you already won GSL this year and bets are heavily in your favor on that match. Why simply not to bet against yourself, especially when you can always defend yourself with "I played against known cheeser and trickster that caught me off guard"? Easy money. But I'm not saying that Stats did any of these, of course. My opinion is that he just lost to non standard play which is his commonly known weakness. Lol are you serious? "But I'm not saying that Stats did any of these, of course." Any other question?
Of course he didn't. That part wasn't what I was questioning.
I was questioning if you actually think someone should try what you said.
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Well, I don't think anyone should matchfix at all, but I'm living in a real world, not in some utopia, so there always will be someone who will (or at least try to) matchfix. My whole idea was just that if money is your prior and only concern and you want to get them quickly (no matter how you achieve that goal), then easy and possible way is to bet against yourself in a situation, where you are guaranteed spot at WCS finals, you already won that league before and you are going to play against player, who is no favourite in that match but also is perfectly capable of beating you, so there is smaller chance that anybody will accuse you of matchfixing. Anyone could lost against sOs in the GSL semifinals and it wouldn't be weird. But try to imagine that Stats lose in the GSL semifinals against I don't know Hurricane for example. That would be much more suspicious. In the end, I don't think anyone should matchfix, but reality is that matchfixing is common element of any sport, not just e-sport.
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GGs. playing PvP vs sOs must be like, the most stressful experience in pro starcraft. I feel like his playstyle lets him punch above his weight in that matchup.
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On September 07 2017 14:54 FvRGg wrote:
Is no one writing for TL anymore? These game recaps are super poor and luckluster.
Feel free to apply to join the team, I know they would happily welcome more writers.
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On September 07 2017 21:30 maitiky wrote:
Well, I don't think anyone should matchfix at all, but I'm living in a real world, not in some utopia, so there always will be someone who will (or at least try to) matchfix. My whole idea was just that if money is your prior and only concern and you want to get them quickly (no matter how you achieve that goal), then easy and possible way is to bet against yourself in a situation, where you are guaranteed spot at WCS finals, you already won that league before and you are going to play against player, who is no favourite in that match but also is perfectly capable of beating you, so there is smaller chance that anybody will accuse you of matchfixing. Anyone could lost against sOs in the GSL semifinals and it wouldn't be weird. But try to imagine that Stats lose in the GSL semifinals against I don't know Hurricane for example. That would be much more suspicious. In the end, I don't think anyone should matchfix, but reality is that matchfixing is common element of any sport, not just e-sport.
Depends also on the games. Like if Hurricane played a game of his life then I would not be suspicious. Besides, if you're not confident in acting at all, matchfixing for a successful player like stats is actually risky. Even if you get a ton of money, if you're caught, I believe you have to give it all back.
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On September 07 2017 15:58 yht9657 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 15:44 Alarak89 wrote:On September 07 2017 15:13 yht9657 wrote:On September 07 2017 14:54 FvRGg wrote:
Is no one writing for TL anymore? These game recaps are super poor and luckluster. These games are surprisingly similar to my Diamond ladder PvP experience so what do you expect? I'm glad that sOs and Stats finally reach Diamond league Protoss level. No offense but DT rush, proxy stargate into 3SG phoenix war, fast immortal push and proxy robo are truly a great deal of my ladder experience
But the question is can you apply and execute them well enough to defeat sOs or Stats?
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I don't think he's disparaging their skill in any way, just commenting on overall game quality.
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On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2017 23:57 Alarak89 wrote:On September 06 2017 23:48 Kerdinand wrote:
$O$ HYPE! So glad to see him advance despite everyone already counting him out. I wonder if hed fair better against Innovation or Dark? He still has a GSL Code S to win, you know.... For getting hype, Bogus, for being a champion, Dark. Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke
My thoughts exactly!!! :D
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On September 08 2017 05:55 Alarak89 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 15:58 yht9657 wrote:On September 07 2017 15:44 Alarak89 wrote:On September 07 2017 15:13 yht9657 wrote:On September 07 2017 14:54 FvRGg wrote:
Is no one writing for TL anymore? These game recaps are super poor and luckluster. These games are surprisingly similar to my Diamond ladder PvP experience so what do you expect? I'm glad that sOs and Stats finally reach Diamond league Protoss level. No offense but DT rush, proxy stargate into 3SG phoenix war, fast immortal push and proxy robo are truly a great deal of my ladder experience But the question is can you apply and execute them well enough to defeat sOs or Stats?
Even if you think every kind of "cheese" is no skill and no thought strat that magically works at gsl, there's no excuse for the immortal push game. It was not even an immortal push. It was a macro game into a timing that worked bc sOs read the game and executed it better than stats. If you're smarter than your opponent, but maybe lacking in mechanics you're the worse player :/ ????
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On September 08 2017 05:58 htx.RuNe wrote:
I don't think he's disparaging their skill in any way, just commenting on overall game quality.
Again, "quality" is a subjective thing. I would say If you can execute all those "dirty tricks" as well as sOs or Stats, it will still be a high quality match. And that's one of the reasons why he is a Diamond Protoss whereas sOs (or any Protoss greats) is even beyond GM Protoss.
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On September 07 2017 23:17 StormsInJuly wrote:
GGs. playing PvP vs sOs must be like, the most stressful experience in pro starcraft. I feel like his playstyle lets him punch above his weight in that matchup.
agreed its usually seemed like his strongest match, it must be so hard playing against some one who could and will do anything to throw you off your game especially in a match that is heavily dependent on mindgames.
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