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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 16:55:06
August 23 2017 16:53 GMT
#1
How many Stalkers, Immortals, and Adepts are in this picture?

[image loading]


If the answer isn't immediately obvious, then there's a problem!

Played some SC2 for the first time in a long time this weekend and came across this issue. I can't be the only person who thinks this... there HAS to be a way to disable this.

Is there a mode (colorblind or whatever) that improves visibility of these skins?
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
August 23 2017 17:17 GMT
#2
Hmm, this is weird. What kind of skin is this?
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
August 23 2017 17:20 GMT
#3
Go back to reddit.

User was warned for this post
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17135 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 17:39:27
August 23 2017 17:34 GMT
#4
9 Stalkers, 10 Immortals?
you can control the colour of your enemy's units along with your gamma setting. this helps with readability.
that said, i hope we get the ability to control both the colour of enemy units as well as the skin of enemy units.

I want my TvTs to be Raynor's Raiders versus Dominion Special Forces.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7142 Posts
August 23 2017 17:38 GMT
#5
On August 24 2017 02:20 Weavel wrote:
Go back to reddit.

He is right, you know?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17135 Posts
August 23 2017 17:40 GMT
#6
i think playing with each set of the skins helps with readability... but that is a time sink.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Rantech
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile527 Posts
August 23 2017 17:45 GMT
#7
I keep waiting for blizzard to implement the option to disable skins on my opponents units. We should not be forced to see their skins because banelings and immortal + stalkers are really difficult to spot.
Kerdinand
Profile Joined November 2016
Germany113 Posts
August 23 2017 17:48 GMT
#8
Have to agree with you here. This is a highliy competitive game, and there is no place for an insecurities here. Changing the skins (like they did with zergling/baneling) is also no long term solution, because, as we can see here, new problems always arise with every new skin. In my opinion, the skins you set in the "collection" menu should affect both sides of the battlefield, so that you can decide for yourself if you want to see skins or not.
Of course I see the problem that people want to "show off" the fact that they invested money into the game to other people, so maybe decals and similar (like we had within the warchest) could be introduced to satisfy their need of attention. Otherwise, everybody should be able to turn off cosmetic confusion.

On August 24 2017 02:20 Weavel wrote:
Go back to reddit.


Honestly, he is voicing a concern, and instead of bringing counterarguments, you just want to send him off? Ok.
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xTJx
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil419 Posts
August 23 2017 17:50 GMT
#9
I have trouble in ZvZ because banelings with skin are dark blue instead of glowing green.
No prejudices, i hate everyone equally.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 17:53:07
August 23 2017 17:52 GMT
#10
They look fine while actually playing the game not in some still screenshot that is specifically made to make a point
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 23 2017 18:00 GMT
#11
Some of these skins are actually really hard to read, but i wouldn't say that "why skins are dumb" really makes a good point at all
I think one should be able to disable skins, people will say that then there is no incentive to buy them but i think most people use skins because they think it looks nice. So i don't buy that argument.
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WeddingEpisode
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 18:03:16
August 23 2017 18:01 GMT
#12
On August 24 2017 01:53 DinoMight wrote:
Played some SC2 for the first time in a long time this weekend and came across this issue. I can't be the only person who thinks this...


Excuse me, but the skins stink. They could have gone with Metallic, or blinking lights, or any cool embellishment
of design that is more visible and satisfying to see. This is just Gamma Saturation or whatever this coloring effect is called.
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_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands678 Posts
August 23 2017 18:01 GMT
#13
I agree with OP. Different skins obfuscate game state, which I need to make (mostly wrong ) split second decisions
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
August 23 2017 18:06 GMT
#14
On August 24 2017 02:52 Zaros wrote:
They look fine while actually playing the game not in some still screenshot that is specifically made to make a point

The units are more distinct when they're animating but there still might be a point to the criticism.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
August 23 2017 18:08 GMT
#15
I thought it was a trick question because you didn't mention the hydralisks.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17135 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 18:15:07
August 23 2017 18:12 GMT
#16
On August 24 2017 03:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Some of these skins are actually really hard to read, but i wouldn't say that "why skins are dumb" really makes a good point at all
I think one should be able to disable skins, people will say that then there is no incentive to buy them but i think most people use skins because they think it looks nice. So i don't buy that argument.

make it so you can customize the skins of your enemy. that makes up for your enemy disabling your skins.
you get your own fully customized experience.

Red Terran with the Dominion skins looks like the Brotherhood of Nod... i was yelling "peace through power" as my siege tanks and upgraded marines decimated my enemy's base.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
August 23 2017 18:14 GMT
#17
I don't think skins are dumb. It's this skin design which is bad. Someone at Blizzard didn't think it was important enough. Skins in CS: GO are totally fine and you can recognise weapons (at least the ones I've seen).
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
August 23 2017 18:40 GMT
#18
Yeah i absolutely agree with the OP.
However, i believe it is possible to overcome this without the disable option.
They just have to work harder on the skins.
There are some good examples like; Immortal (not the one in the op but the other one) or Viking. They both look cool and they are easily distinguishable.
I didn't like most new zerg skins, they've just added random spikes on every creature which is a really lazy work and confusing. Even worse than this picture imho.
Protoss skins are no better, just made them all look like hallucinated...
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 18:43:00
August 23 2017 18:42 GMT
#19
Skins in CS:GO have a completely other level of impact, it's a colorization of a weapon, there's nothing added to the model of said weapon to not alter it's overall shape. Especially in a competitive evironment like 1v1 ladder skins have (IMO) no place in SC2, it's disruptive and unwanted by some players.
I mean, I can choose my favorite color, yet, opponents can alter "my" color on their screen if they want to for the sake of simplicity and playability and noone ever complains about that.
C'mon, even Remastered handled this problem so much better by just giving out a main building skin and you can even disable that if you want to.
Just seems to me that they kinda want to separate their players, gearing SC2 more towards the "modern age of gaming bullshit" while keeping the traditionalists and old farts at bay with BW which I find pretty sad as I really like both games, it's just that SC2 seems drifting further and further away for me.
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
August 23 2017 18:43 GMT
#20
The problem with all these skins is they just make all the shoulder pads larger and change the colors. So all the units have big, indistinguishable shoulder pads and are the same color.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
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