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ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-16 19:14:28
July 16 2017 19:10 GMT
#121
Man it must suck to have a videogame so ingrained into your identity that you'll defend literally any mediocre, half-assed addition to it as manna from the heavens.

"Please sir, can I have some more?", the tattered remains of the SC2 scene grovels, begging for table scraps.

I dunno man some of us actually try to make this game better instead of just rolling over and accepting every decision Blizzard makes and sometimes that involves going against those decisions. If you're not willing to do that, get out of the fast lane and stop holding up everyone else. Jesus Christ if I can get paid monthly cheques by Blizzard and still manage to criticize them when they don't do something as well as they could, you lot have absolutely no excuse. Don't settle, demand better. If you don't you're really no better than a volunteer PR guy for a multinational corporation, which is not something you wanna put on your Tinder profile.
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washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-16 19:17:57
July 16 2017 19:16 GMT
#122
On July 16 2017 03:33 digmouse wrote:
I'm kind of worrying about the readability of some of the new skins.


im ok with it, as long as they don't make raptor lings ever again things will be ok. most units are prity easy to distinguish from one another just based on size and shape, the only unit skins that I have found problematic so far are ones that make it realy hard to count the number of enemy units, for instance raptor lings wings make it difficult to tell how many zerglings there actually are when they move around because its so visually cluttered.

Also that talderim set looks amazing
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
July 16 2017 19:19 GMT
#123
On July 17 2017 04:10 ClanWars wrote:
Man it must suck to have a videogame so ingrained into your identity that you'll defend literally any mediocre, half-assed addition to it as manna from the heavens.

"Please sir, can I have some more?", the tattered remains of the SC2 scene grovels, begging for table scraps.

I dunno man some of us actually try to make this game better instead of just rolling over and accepting every decision Blizzard makes and sometimes that involves going against those decisions. If you're not willing to do that, get out of the fast lane and stop holding up everyone else. Jesus Christ if I can get paid monthly cheques by Blizzard and still manage to criticize them when they don't do something as well as they could, you lot have absolutely no excuse. Don't settle, demand better. If you don't you're really no better than a volunteer PR guy for a multinational corporation, which is not something you wanna put on your Tinder profile.

Screw off with this negative bullshit, there's enough of that in the world and even in this thread already and you're far better than to behave so childish. Or, at least I thought you were. For crying out loud, get a better outlook on life and other people in the world, dude. Punch up, not down, and don't torch everything around you while you do it.

And find a new line other than "please sir, can I have some mo-" we've heard it enough times by now and you must be sick of saying it every week, no?
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
July 16 2017 19:22 GMT
#124
On July 17 2017 04:10 ClanWars wrote:
Man it must suck to have a videogame so ingrained into your identity that you'll defend literally any mediocre, half-assed addition to it as manna from the heavens.

"Please sir, can I have some more?", the tattered remains of the SC2 scene grovels, begging for table scraps.

I dunno man some of us actually try to make this game better instead of just rolling over and accepting every decision Blizzard makes and sometimes that involves going against those decisions. If you're not willing to do that, get out of the fast lane and stop holding up everyone else. Jesus Christ if I can get paid monthly cheques by Blizzard and still manage to criticize them when they don't do something as well as they could, you lot have absolutely no excuse. Don't settle, demand better. If you don't you're really no better than a volunteer PR guy for a multinational corporation, which is not something you wanna put on your Tinder profile.

Well, it's difference of opinion on to how people want to spend their money.
How much money does SC2 actually bring in compared to how much they pay players, staff working on the game, and pay for personalities to host/cast the events? I'm not 100% for how they separate their money with this, but I am still going to buy this. My money, I spend it where I will. Skins for me with the new art is worth it, and the potential ease to get everything is something that would have me play more, even through commanders. I don't generally buy announcer packs, because for me their not worth that. But how I spend my money is up to me and to consumers who want it. If people don't want it, they won't buy it and Blizzard can change or not change depending on the outcome.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 16 2017 19:28 GMT
#125
On July 17 2017 04:19 blunderfulguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:10 ClanWars wrote:
Man it must suck to have a videogame so ingrained into your identity that you'll defend literally any mediocre, half-assed addition to it as manna from the heavens.

"Please sir, can I have some more?", the tattered remains of the SC2 scene grovels, begging for table scraps.

I dunno man some of us actually try to make this game better instead of just rolling over and accepting every decision Blizzard makes and sometimes that involves going against those decisions. If you're not willing to do that, get out of the fast lane and stop holding up everyone else. Jesus Christ if I can get paid monthly cheques by Blizzard and still manage to criticize them when they don't do something as well as they could, you lot have absolutely no excuse. Don't settle, demand better. If you don't you're really no better than a volunteer PR guy for a multinational corporation, which is not something you wanna put on your Tinder profile.

Screw off with this negative bullshit, there's enough of that in the world and even in this thread already and you're far better than to behave so childish. Or, at least I thought you were. For crying out loud, get a better outlook on life and other people in the world, dude. Punch up, not down, and don't torch everything around you while you do it.

And find a new line other than "please sir, can I have some mo-" we've heard it enough times by now and you must be sick of saying it every week, no?


I think you're being a bit dramatic about how negative he's been. I mean, TB has always had a flair for the dramatic but don't return the favor when criticizing him.
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
July 16 2017 19:39 GMT
#126
On July 17 2017 04:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:19 blunderfulguy wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:10 ClanWars wrote:
Man it must suck to have a videogame so ingrained into your identity that you'll defend literally any mediocre, half-assed addition to it as manna from the heavens.

"Please sir, can I have some more?", the tattered remains of the SC2 scene grovels, begging for table scraps.

I dunno man some of us actually try to make this game better instead of just rolling over and accepting every decision Blizzard makes and sometimes that involves going against those decisions. If you're not willing to do that, get out of the fast lane and stop holding up everyone else. Jesus Christ if I can get paid monthly cheques by Blizzard and still manage to criticize them when they don't do something as well as they could, you lot have absolutely no excuse. Don't settle, demand better. If you don't you're really no better than a volunteer PR guy for a multinational corporation, which is not something you wanna put on your Tinder profile.

Screw off with this negative bullshit, there's enough of that in the world and even in this thread already and you're far better than to behave so childish. Or, at least I thought you were. For crying out loud, get a better outlook on life and other people in the world, dude. Punch up, not down, and don't torch everything around you while you do it.

And find a new line other than "please sir, can I have some mo-" we've heard it enough times by now and you must be sick of saying it every week, no?


I think you're being a bit dramatic about how negative he's been. I mean, TB has always had a flair for the dramatic but don't return the favor when criticizing him.

Is this the dramatic flair that you're referencing?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/483824-re-totalbiscuit?page=3#59
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/32696-automated-ban-list-latest-spawnvertigo?page=1788#35741

Actually I think I've had enough. I'm done with TL and its cadre of poisonous posters who suffer from collective Dunning-Kruger effect. You can't even explain your teams own business model without getting shit on because a bunch of crybabies got offended for no reason. Even Reddit didnt get offended at that blog and they get offended at everything under the sun.

Asking the mods to delete my account, there's no benefit to being here anyway. If people wanna circlejerk about how much they think they know and make themselves feel better by shitting on the increasingly shrinking number of community personalities/casters/players that bother to continue to post on TL that's their business, but I'm not going to subject myself to it anymore.

5 years of this shit is to just too damn much. Enough.

Oh and Boxerfred? Go fuck yourself. If you didnt want a negative response you shouldn't have shitposted in the thread in the first place. You want me to "stop being a prick to people?", then try treating me how you want to be treated. Congratulations on further piling on drama to the point where I can't be fucked to deal with it anymore. I hope you're satisfied at your accomplishment.

Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
July 16 2017 21:56 GMT
#127
Pretty much agree with what TB argues in the long tweet.
The quality of the skins seem to be there but the marketing and implementation is just meh. I am not a moba/dota 2 fan and could care less that valve has done something similar.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
July 16 2017 23:09 GMT
#128
I'm surprised this thread isn't brimming with positivity.

I thought it was pretty fun news, although I'm missing console skins.
Cereal
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17181 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 02:12:09
July 17 2017 02:04 GMT
#129
On July 17 2017 04:10 ClanWars wrote:
I dunno man some of us actually try to make this game better instead of just rolling over and accepting every decision Blizzard makes and sometimes that involves going against those decisions. If you're not willing to do that, get out of the fast lane and stop holding up everyone else.

how many people in the thread are accepting every decision Blizzard makes? is any one in the thread fully satisfied and on board with this War Chest? i don't think any one is.

EDIT: i found 1 guy : Musicus

Ok, should i now rip him to shreds on as personal a level as possible. will that help? Let's all make fun of him. That'll really improve the discussion about the Warchest.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10688 Posts
July 17 2017 02:17 GMT
#130
Hmm... not really interested to be honest, the art is cool I guess lol.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Felissie
Profile Joined June 2017
19 Posts
July 17 2017 02:17 GMT
#131
Terran got tissue box and crying emoticons. While Protoss get cheese emoticon. What does Blizzard trying to tell us. :thinking:
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
July 17 2017 05:30 GMT
#132
On July 17 2017 11:17 Felissie wrote:
Terran got tissue box and crying emoticons. While Protoss get cheese emoticon. What does Blizzard trying to tell us. :thinking:

They tried to promote sells by following general memes. That's all...
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
July 17 2017 05:59 GMT
#133
On July 17 2017 04:19 blunderfulguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:10 ClanWars wrote:
Man it must suck to have a videogame so ingrained into your identity that you'll defend literally any mediocre, half-assed addition to it as manna from the heavens.

"Please sir, can I have some more?", the tattered remains of the SC2 scene grovels, begging for table scraps.

I dunno man some of us actually try to make this game better instead of just rolling over and accepting every decision Blizzard makes and sometimes that involves going against those decisions. If you're not willing to do that, get out of the fast lane and stop holding up everyone else. Jesus Christ if I can get paid monthly cheques by Blizzard and still manage to criticize them when they don't do something as well as they could, you lot have absolutely no excuse. Don't settle, demand better. If you don't you're really no better than a volunteer PR guy for a multinational corporation, which is not something you wanna put on your Tinder profile.

Screw off with this negative bullshit, there's enough of that in the world and even in this thread already and you're far better than to behave so childish. Or, at least I thought you were. For crying out loud, get a better outlook on life and other people in the world, dude. Punch up, not down, and don't torch everything around you while you do it.

And find a new line other than "please sir, can I have some mo-" we've heard it enough times by now and you must be sick of saying it every week, no?


What a wonderfully constructive, informative post. How many years have you been working with Blizzard on a professional level, or perhaps managing your own team or putting on tournaments for this scene?

You know the drones have gone too far when you are literally dismissing posts by someone who has access to more insider information and statistics than probably anyone on TL (who isn't staff anyway) as "negative bullshit". Oh no, how dare someone point out that something could be better! And even worse, also providing several lengthy options as to how they could be made better! The horror, it's unthinkable!

Critics drive discussion and thinking, while apologists are the only ones "punching down" and promoting stagnation when they silence any dissent regardless of its merit.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
July 17 2017 06:27 GMT
#134
I love the idea and the value but like other people are saying i wish more of the cost went to the players.

Maybe next year the will change it from 25% to something more.
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xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 07:34:51
July 17 2017 07:34 GMT
#135
On July 16 2017 20:54 blunderfulguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 19:38 xtorn wrote:
I really like the skins, will get all options for sure.

What I would really like though, is a mod of the ingame UI/dashboard thingie to my liking, like WoW has with interface addons, but of course it would be a lot more restricted to still keep the visible map proportions etc.

I would love to see some UI and bonus co-op skins/ui/stuff, there's a lot of room for sound effects or announcers too. As for UI modifying to the level that WoW addons have? I'm not so sure. Does Blizz allow them for WoW Arena tournaments, and would that be okay for StarCraft ladder? Observer UI regularly gets changed for good reason, but I don't know that changing the command card location, unit selection interface, alert displays, HP/MP bars, etc. would work/be good for player perspectives.

That said, I haven't seen any mockups for any of that, so it's possible something could work.

yeah i think Blizz doesnt allow custom UI in WoW arena tourneys.

I wasnt really clear in my post, i meant restricted customization for the ingame dashboard UI that doesn't modify the allowed "battlefield" perspective, for instance: the console at the bottom is all you can customize and you could rearrange the elements to your liking, what if I like my minimap on the other corner or different UI colors or whatever. And, just as WoW, they would disable the custom UI in tourneys.

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LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
July 17 2017 07:49 GMT
#136
Wait, I don't understand. Sorry, this might be a stupid question but after buying those you have to unlock them by playin co-op and stuff ? Like if I buy it and don't really play much outside of like ~5 1v1 ladder games per month, will I be able to use those skins or will they stay locked ?
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
July 17 2017 09:51 GMT
#137
On July 17 2017 16:49 LoneYoShi wrote:
Wait, I don't understand. Sorry, this might be a stupid question but after buying those you have to unlock them by playin co-op and stuff ? Like if I buy it and don't really play much outside of like ~5 1v1 ladder games per month, will I be able to use those skins or will they stay locked ?


I think you'll be able to use one single (unit?) skin

Rest should be unlocked until you played more.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 10:08:25
July 17 2017 10:08 GMT
#138
On July 17 2017 16:49 LoneYoShi wrote:
Wait, I don't understand. Sorry, this might be a stupid question but after buying those you have to unlock them by playin co-op and stuff ? Like if I buy it and don't really play much outside of like ~5 1v1 ladder games per month, will I be able to use those skins or will they stay locked ?

Yes you have to play co-op or matchmaking to unlock the skins. If 5 games per month is enough is hard to say right now. Could be that you need to play 5 games per week instead. But not much more than that, it's supposed to be very easy and casual friendly to unlock everything.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17181 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 10:26:33
July 17 2017 10:20 GMT
#139
On July 17 2017 14:59 207aicila wrote:
Critics drive discussion and thinking, while apologists are the only ones "punching down" and promoting stagnation when they silence any dissent regardless of its merit.

its a back-and-forth mud slinging between 2 guys who are discussing each other rather the topic.

i'd say the # of people fully satisfied with the Warchest are in the minority.

what is hilarious is people with the majority opinion that the Warchest is less than great ... claiming those in the minority are somehow bad for SC2. Holy Lex Luger.

i don't think the Warchest is that great. A small group thinks the Warchest is great? super.. they can buy it. if indeed very few like the Warchest then very few will buy it. With low sales levels Blizzard will be forced to go back to the drawing board and come up with something better or just drop the whole thing entirely.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
July 17 2017 13:29 GMT
#140
On July 17 2017 18:51 sCuMBaG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 16:49 LoneYoShi wrote:
Wait, I don't understand. Sorry, this might be a stupid question but after buying those you have to unlock them by playin co-op and stuff ? Like if I buy it and don't really play much outside of like ~5 1v1 ladder games per month, will I be able to use those skins or will they stay locked ?


I think you'll be able to use one single (unit?) skin

Rest should be unlocked until you played more.



On July 17 2017 19:08 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 16:49 LoneYoShi wrote:
Wait, I don't understand. Sorry, this might be a stupid question but after buying those you have to unlock them by playin co-op and stuff ? Like if I buy it and don't really play much outside of like ~5 1v1 ladder games per month, will I be able to use those skins or will they stay locked ?

Yes you have to play co-op or matchmaking to unlock the skins. If 5 games per month is enough is hard to say right now. Could be that you need to play 5 games per week instead. But not much more than that, it's supposed to be very easy and casual friendly to unlock everything.


Thanks for the answers guys !
It's a shame, I didn't buy skins so far because I thought it was quite expensive and I'm not playing much anymore. I thought the warchest would have been a great way to get lots of skins at a cheaper price while at the same time supporting the e-sports scene that I spent so much time watching a few years back, but I won't pay for something that I won't be able to unlock! Unless this actually motivates me to pick the game up again...
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