EPTOn November 17 2016 22:33 opisska wrote:
Sure, the game declines in popularity, it's fucking six years old, in a world when the typical attention span of a kid is about twenty seconds, what else would you ever expect? It's also hard as hell and people are nowadays looking more for safe spaces than a challenge. But there is this group of vocal people, to which you apparently belong, which continues to pose negative things about Blizzard, DK and SC2 as if it were hard facts. Guess what, they are not - all that is just, you know, your opinion. But it has become customary to shit on the game and the devs to no end, with vague explanations and waving around the mantra of "game design" as if it made your opinion on how a game should look like more valuable, if you shout "game design" three times in each direction on midnight at full moon. It's such a gigantic echo chamber that I honestly think that most of you really do believe that your view is the only one absolutely correct and anyone else is delusional.
Saying that I like that game as it is has now become an instant target for carpet bombing. What have we got ourselves to, really. I never liked the game more, LoTV has brought so many awesome things, the whole feel of the game is much better, which led me to improve dramatically and enjoy playing more than ever, while broadcast games keep being the most enjoyable "TV" entertainment I know and we watch SC2 at home at mostly every time we feel like just sitting back and looking at stuff. I know that we aren't a legion, but there are apparently a couple of tens of thousands people who enjoy playing or watching the game as well, thanks to the great work of the dev team (and in my opinion in big part thanks to them not selling to every stupid idea the "community" throws at them).
Sure, the game declines in popularity, it's fucking six years old, in a world when the typical attention span of a kid is about twenty seconds, what else would you ever expect? It's also hard as hell and people are nowadays looking more for safe spaces than a challenge. But there is this group of vocal people, to which you apparently belong, which continues to pose negative things about Blizzard, DK and SC2 as if it were hard facts. Guess what, they are not - all that is just, you know, your opinion. But it has become customary to shit on the game and the devs to no end, with vague explanations and waving around the mantra of "game design" as if it made your opinion on how a game should look like more valuable, if you shout "game design" three times in each direction on midnight at full moon. It's such a gigantic echo chamber that I honestly think that most of you really do believe that your view is the only one absolutely correct and anyone else is delusional.
Saying that I like that game as it is has now become an instant target for carpet bombing. What have we got ourselves to, really. I never liked the game more, LoTV has brought so many awesome things, the whole feel of the game is much better, which led me to improve dramatically and enjoy playing more than ever, while broadcast games keep being the most enjoyable "TV" entertainment I know and we watch SC2 at home at mostly every time we feel like just sitting back and looking at stuff. I know that we aren't a legion, but there are apparently a couple of tens of thousands people who enjoy playing or watching the game as well, thanks to the great work of the dev team (and in my opinion in big part thanks to them not selling to every stupid idea the "community" throws at them).
We are speaking about different things apparently. Did I (or anyone) try to accuse you for being positive? Or enjoying the game? My post was about you blaming those who are negative towards blizzard for "poisoning the world for the rest of us" and thus "hurting SC2 more than all". I don't want to it repeat all of this, but i guess i made myself clear that it's our essential right to be as negative as we want. Saying we are to blame for the decline is absolutely superficial. I'd say its you are being the guy who is preferring comfort to challenge with your "let's all be positive" attitude hurting the game. But i won't. Because we strongly overvalue our opinions here. Game is either good or bad (in most cases its something in between), and its success is determined by that not by some random guys bragging on forums. Either they are positive or toxic. And i didn't get your reasoning for 6 years being a sentance to game popularity. LoL Is about the same age. DOTA, CS, BW anyone? Defending game designers using arguments like "they are proffesionals they know better" seems a bit strange. Or may be its just me being absolutely immune to stuff like "public weight" or "status". I judge only by results. And btw i do enjoy the game as well (over 10k games and counting). I just think it could be so much better with another approach.
On November 17 2016 23:02 horrypotter wrote:
We have to know what DK and developer team aiming. They said that they don't aim getting a lot of players, but they aim great RTS that even perfect player can't master. This is why game is getting harder and harder. But even if player leave because game is hard, Blizz don't care, because what they aim has nothing to do with playerbase.
We have to know what DK and developer team aiming. They said that they don't aim getting a lot of players, but they aim great RTS that even perfect player can't master. This is why game is getting harder and harder. But even if player leave because game is hard, Blizz don't care, because what they aim has nothing to do with playerbase.
I still can't believe i'm the only who find their reasoning hillarious. It's absurd and contradictory.
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