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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
On September 20 2016 00:07 LongShot27 wrote: Draft a contract, read the contract, sign that contract. Breach of contract is a sue-able offense in nearly every country. Do your homework goddammit. You mean, consulting with a bilingual solicitor who gets $5 per minute to get $4K or so? | ||
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
On September 20 2016 00:07 LongShot27 wrote: Draft a contract, read the contract, sign that contract. Breach of contract is a sue-able offense in nearly every country. Do your homework goddammit. A Korean national suing a defunct esport / marketing firm based in the UK? Okay. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On September 20 2016 00:07 LongShot27 wrote: Draft a contract, read the contract, sign that contract. Breach of contract is a sue-able offense in nearly every country. Do your homework goddammit. Pay a lawyer for more than the amount you'd get back if you won the case. god damn it! | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13959 Posts
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
I really feel bad for Soulkey, but lets be honest. I can't give a crap anymore. These Korean progamers should have learned their lesson from previous examples. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. | ||
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JimSocks
United States968 Posts
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On September 20 2016 00:07 LongShot27 wrote: Draft a contract, read the contract, sign that contract. Breach of contract is a sue-able offense in nearly every country. Do your homework goddammit. You are absolutely right, however, the litigation fees/time spent usually isn't worth it. That's why it is better to just sabotage their business/reputation. They end up losing more than they stole. Now when you bring cyber crime into the mix, it can get even worse for the offenders. Players need to step it up and stop being pushovers. | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On September 20 2016 00:49 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: When it happened to Hyun we were outraged. Now... I really feel bad for Soulkey, but lets be honest. I can't give a crap anymore. These Korean progamers should have learned their lesson from previous examples. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. And this is why they win. They'll keep doing this shit because they know it's happened so many times that most of the community doesn't give a shit anymore, and because they know that the money itself might not even cover the legal fees inherent to the pro suing them. | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
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TT1
Canada9984 Posts
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phodacbiet
United States1739 Posts
Seriously, it's not that hard to figure out -- and this should go for future and current pro gamers as well. If a company does not pay you after one, or two months, speak up! Make a big deal out of it, stop being a pushover. Yes, it sucks that one or two months of salary may be lost, but at least don't stretch it out. | ||
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atrox_
United Kingdom1708 Posts
On September 19 2016 23:11 Waxangel wrote: Is TCM a reputable team in other esports? TCM were huge in CoD and TF2 for a long long period of time. Heard absolutely no bad things about them in either scenes. Their owner xman was a very reputable guy. Interesting why this has happened | ||
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
Can anyone link me this? On-topic: That sucks, I do remember TCM being a prominent team in CS, but don't know much about the others. Seems it isn't just SoulKey : http://www.dexerto.com/news/2016/08/25/tcm-gaming-filed-dissolution/ https://m.reddit.com/r/CoDCompetitive/comments/3z9h8h/tcm_still_not_paid_madcat_for_xgames/?ref=readnext_1 | ||
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dearyuna
United States322 Posts
On September 20 2016 01:33 WonnaPlay wrote: Sorry for being a bit off topic, but I think I missed the part where SK got the nickname "Walled off"? Can anyone link me this? On-topic: That sucks, I do remember TCM being a prominent team in CS, but don't know much about the others. Seems it isn't just SoulKey : http://www.dexerto.com/news/2016/08/25/tcm-gaming-filed-dissolution/ https://m.reddit.com/r/CoDCompetitive/comments/3z9h8h/tcm_still_not_paid_madcat_for_xgames/?ref=readnext_1 This might have been a translating/interpreting error on my part; I apologize. The nickname that's used is generally used to describe people who distance themselves from others. However, it also literally means Iron Wall. Soulkey seems to have the nickname in the Korean community because his skill was considered to be that of a different league from the other players. That's why I used the original term. However, I did more digging and it seems liquipedia has a reference to his nickname as the "Iron Wall" so I've changed it accordingly. Let me know if you have any questions. | ||
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KappaKingPrime
United States468 Posts
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
On September 20 2016 01:51 dearyuna wrote: because his skill was considered to be that of a different league from the other players. Rather, It's a pun that came from his name and defensive play style. | ||
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
On September 19 2016 22:34 [Svall]Granis wrote: I really hope he gets the money and that he can find a good team who arent scumbags, i miss seeing him play We all do man. Soulkey is amazing.  | ||
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
On September 20 2016 01:51 dearyuna wrote: This might have been a translating/interpreting error on my part; I apologize. The nickname that's used is generally used to describe people who distance themselves from others. However, it also literally means Iron Wall. Soulkey seems to have the nickname in the Korean community because his skill was considered to be that of a different league from the other players. That's why I used the original term. However, I did more digging and it seems liquipedia has a reference to his nickname as the "Iron Wall" so I've changed it accordingly. Let me know if you have any questions. Ah, thanks for the explanation, in that case I know what it is  | ||
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RKC
2847 Posts
On September 20 2016 02:00 Thouhastmail wrote: Rather, It's a pun that came from his name and defensive play style. I believe he got his nickname from the BW days? I never really watched his BW games much, but I'm quite a fan of his Zerg defensive style in SC2 (and just like Rain, he's somewhat underrated). | ||
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geokilla
Canada8218 Posts
On September 20 2016 01:08 TT1 wrote: this is what happens when you join a no name team To be fair, all teams start as a no name team. | ||
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