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Corwinus
Profile Joined October 2015
Croatia96 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 16:02:55
September 17 2016 16:02 GMT
#81
On September 18 2016 00:57 Poopi wrote:
Even Stephano and Scarlett can beat ByuN in shoutcraft so no big deal. Beating overrated Maru is good tho


Scarlett almost beat him today(one mistake cost her the game), and they're good friends and practice partners, like so much Byun wants her back in Korea cause she's a good practice partner.

Also Nerchio just beat Rogue and actually outplayed him completely.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 16:17:11
September 17 2016 16:17 GMT
#82
On September 17 2016 22:57 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2016 22:42 D-light wrote:
On September 17 2016 20:39 Nerchio wrote:
I wonder how many internet hate points I am going to get for this interview :D

How could anyone hate on anything you could do? We all love you, and this interview, and will show you praise and pity. We know you're still the best even if you don't win a game and any pathetic nerd giving you some "internet hate points" for no reason is obviously wrong.


People hate on Nerchio because he says Koreans are overrated, and anyone who thinks foreigners are good is automatic scrub

How could you say that? When Nerchio can take a couple of matches against them who are also clearly playing at their own top-level like today it has to mean he'd crush it in korean leagues. And to maybe a slightly lesser degree all the other top-foreigners after practicing against other top foreigners this year.

Like even every single time Nerchio loses he has the most amazing excuses. You're clearly just a hater.
why even
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
September 17 2016 16:21 GMT
#83
Nerchio, putting both of them on the table. Lets see if you can handle the hammer next!
To be honest I'd be a bit surprise, but not unhappy.

So as you said, as a zerg player, you'll have my cheers!
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 16:35:18
September 17 2016 16:33 GMT
#84
You know I thought Nerchio was all talk. Than I saw him beat Gumiho and Dear back to back in shoutcarft before getting knocked out by tlo. We live in odd times.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
September 17 2016 16:37 GMT
#85
On September 17 2016 20:41 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2016 20:39 Nerchio wrote:
I wonder how many internet hate points I am going to get for this interview :D

none, no one cares. Just like no one will care when you get eliminated 0-3 in the first round. Cheers.


Low self-esteem? Cheers ^^
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
September 17 2016 16:46 GMT
#86
On September 17 2016 20:39 Nerchio wrote:
I wonder how many internet hate points I am going to get for this interview :D


A few :D
I disagree with pretty much everything you say, and I think no foreigner would consistently reach Code S, but I respect your courage greatly
And damn you are getting good.
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
September 17 2016 16:47 GMT
#87
On September 17 2016 20:50 uThermal wrote:
You and Neeb have my blessing, Artur. Nothing can go wrong now


May I have your blessing too?

<3
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12454 Posts
September 17 2016 17:00 GMT
#88
On September 17 2016 21:14 Nerchio wrote:
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On September 17 2016 21:11 Poopi wrote:
On September 17 2016 21:09 Musicus wrote:
On September 17 2016 21:06 Poopi wrote:
On September 17 2016 21:02 Nerchio wrote:
On September 17 2016 20:57 Elentos wrote:
Nerchio please give your opinion on basically every tournament this year being full single elimination brackets.

It's shit, there is a couple of players that won the tournaments and I was like "meh". For example my loss to Showtime in Tours - For this tournament I mostly prepared for ZvZ as I had it 2 rounds in a row and he mostly had PvZ - good job you're victorious. I am not saying he didn't play great but if you have a lucky bracket and you are one of the top players then you can win the tournament easily.

I lost the last couple of tournaments on ZvZ 2-3 so if it was DE or something else I could've gone much further as well.

We already had a meeting with Blizzard about it though but who knows if it's going to change anything

But you benefited for zerg being so strong at the time as well for having free ZvT wins, decent ZvP challenge, so you could focus on training ZvZ... Of course it's a double edged sword, having easy matchups brings so many zergs and if ZvZ is a bit random you are screwed a bit.


I love how you state this as if it were a fact, while Terrans struggled in EU at the same time Terrans in Korea were dominating Zergs left and right.

You realize in both seasons terrans got shat on in Korea as well? Especially in SSL iirc where only ByuN and aLive were still qualified.
If it weren't "free" wins, why were there so many midtier zergs in the first months of LotV in Europe?
Like people were talking about Bly and the likes as if they were some sort of super strong zergs, which wasn't true afaik?

Because Zerg is always strong early in the expansion as it doesn't need to be figured out as much as other races. Just look how protoss changed from people saying it's impossible to win (and they kept playing same builds for like 3 months and whining) to being probably the strongest race there is.


Kind of like zergs did before they recently figured out they could go ling-bane-ravager?
No will to live, no wish to die
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 17 2016 17:02 GMT
#89
I have to laugh as I know Nerchio just says these ridiculous things because he knows it makes people mad haha. I do hope he faces a korean terran though, I would really love to see if he can actually hang with them or if they destroy him.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
September 17 2016 17:05 GMT
#90
TvZ is very hard nowadays according to ByuN so he probably can beat ByuN/Maru/Ryung in BoX as well.
WriterMaru
Ciaus237
Profile Joined July 2015
South Africa288 Posts
September 17 2016 17:06 GMT
#91
On September 18 2016 02:02 blade55555 wrote:
I have to laugh as I know Nerchio just says these ridiculous things because he knows it makes people mad haha. I do hope he faces a korean terran though, I would really love to see if he can actually hang with them or if they destroy him.


Would you like to hear some spoilers?


The time that we kill keeps us alive
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 17:10:14
September 17 2016 17:10 GMT
#92
nvm
Neosteel Enthusiast
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
September 17 2016 17:12 GMT
#93
On September 18 2016 02:02 blade55555 wrote:
I have to laugh as I know Nerchio just says these ridiculous things because he knows it makes people mad haha. I do hope he faces a korean terran though, I would really love to see if he can actually hang with them or if they destroy him.


This comment - given the antitiming - made me smile.
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
September 17 2016 17:19 GMT
#94
Nerchio plays a great heel, I have to give him that.

Let's just wait for an offline tournament before we declare him the new king of Korea.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 17 2016 17:24 GMT
#95
On September 18 2016 01:17 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2016 22:57 Fango wrote:
On September 17 2016 22:42 D-light wrote:
On September 17 2016 20:39 Nerchio wrote:
I wonder how many internet hate points I am going to get for this interview :D

How could anyone hate on anything you could do? We all love you, and this interview, and will show you praise and pity. We know you're still the best even if you don't win a game and any pathetic nerd giving you some "internet hate points" for no reason is obviously wrong.


People hate on Nerchio because he says Koreans are overrated, and anyone who thinks foreigners are good is automatic scrub

How could you say that? When Nerchio can take a couple of matches against them who are also clearly playing at their own top-level like today it has to mean he'd crush it in korean leagues. And to maybe a slightly lesser degree all the other top-foreigners after practicing against other top foreigners this year.

Like even every single time Nerchio loses he has the most amazing excuses. You're clearly just a hater.


You didn't understand me at all, I was explaining some of the reasons people hate Nerchio

Nerchio pretty much had 1 chance to take out top Koreans, and he's doing it now. Many would call it a waste because now that top Koreans like Maru, Rogue, Byun have fought him they know how to prepare. He won games from guys playing hard into his style, when he plays in KeSPA and BLizzcon they're all gonna research him.


Speaking of which when do we get the group selection for KeSPA cup??
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 17:31:05
September 17 2016 17:29 GMT
#96
It took a foreigner what koreans were not able to do - beating Byun.
It took a foreigner what koreans were not able to do - beating Nerchio.

Well done Nerchio, you made us proud.
MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 17 2016 17:34 GMT
#97
It would be lame if Nerchio got a ZvZ in his first kespa cup match.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 17:36:50
September 17 2016 17:36 GMT
#98
On September 18 2016 02:12 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2016 02:02 blade55555 wrote:
I have to laugh as I know Nerchio just says these ridiculous things because he knows it makes people mad haha. I do hope he faces a korean terran though, I would really love to see if he can actually hang with them or if they destroy him.


This comment - given the antitiming - made me smile.


Haha didn't know shoutcraft was today. I am more meaning in a lan environment though, not a bo 1 online .

On September 18 2016 02:34 stuchiu wrote:
It would be lame if Nerchio got a ZvZ in his first kespa cup match.


Agreed. I would be kinda mad lol.
When I think of something else, something will go here
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 17 2016 17:44 GMT
#99
On September 18 2016 02:24 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2016 01:17 D-light wrote:
On September 17 2016 22:57 Fango wrote:
On September 17 2016 22:42 D-light wrote:
On September 17 2016 20:39 Nerchio wrote:
I wonder how many internet hate points I am going to get for this interview :D

How could anyone hate on anything you could do? We all love you, and this interview, and will show you praise and pity. We know you're still the best even if you don't win a game and any pathetic nerd giving you some "internet hate points" for no reason is obviously wrong.


People hate on Nerchio because he says Koreans are overrated, and anyone who thinks foreigners are good is automatic scrub

How could you say that? When Nerchio can take a couple of matches against them who are also clearly playing at their own top-level like today it has to mean he'd crush it in korean leagues. And to maybe a slightly lesser degree all the other top-foreigners after practicing against other top foreigners this year.

Like even every single time Nerchio loses he has the most amazing excuses. You're clearly just a hater.


You didn't understand me at all, I was explaining some of the reasons people hate Nerchio

Nerchio pretty much had 1 chance to take out top Koreans, and he's doing it now. Many would call it a waste because now that top Koreans like Maru, Rogue, Byun have fought him they know how to prepare. He won games from guys playing hard into his style, when he plays in KeSPA and BLizzcon they're all gonna research him.


Are you really saying that Nerchio plays such a gimmicky style that he only won due to surprise? He's just a solid player man why is that so hard to accept for you. Of course Kespa cup won't be easy at all, but acting like he's a one build wonder makes zero sense to me.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 17 2016 17:54 GMT
#100
On September 18 2016 02:44 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2016 02:24 Fango wrote:
On September 18 2016 01:17 D-light wrote:
On September 17 2016 22:57 Fango wrote:
On September 17 2016 22:42 D-light wrote:
On September 17 2016 20:39 Nerchio wrote:
I wonder how many internet hate points I am going to get for this interview :D

How could anyone hate on anything you could do? We all love you, and this interview, and will show you praise and pity. We know you're still the best even if you don't win a game and any pathetic nerd giving you some "internet hate points" for no reason is obviously wrong.


People hate on Nerchio because he says Koreans are overrated, and anyone who thinks foreigners are good is automatic scrub

How could you say that? When Nerchio can take a couple of matches against them who are also clearly playing at their own top-level like today it has to mean he'd crush it in korean leagues. And to maybe a slightly lesser degree all the other top-foreigners after practicing against other top foreigners this year.

Like even every single time Nerchio loses he has the most amazing excuses. You're clearly just a hater.


You didn't understand me at all, I was explaining some of the reasons people hate Nerchio

Nerchio pretty much had 1 chance to take out top Koreans, and he's doing it now. Many would call it a waste because now that top Koreans like Maru, Rogue, Byun have fought him they know how to prepare. He won games from guys playing hard into his style, when he plays in KeSPA and BLizzcon they're all gonna research him.


Are you really saying that Nerchio plays such a gimmicky style that he only won due to surprise? He's just a solid player man why is that so hard to accept for you. Of course Kespa cup won't be easy at all, but acting like he's a one build wonder makes zero sense to me.


No that's not what I'm saying at all. Litterally at all, not even close.

I said that guys like Maru and Byun had no clue what they were going up against, Nerchio is familier with Byun's marine pushes and Maru's drop harass. Byun went all marines against 150 lings, Maru went 100% drops to Nerchio's drop defence style. Near enough build order counters for both.

Think about it, if Nerchio doesn't play today he goes to KeSPA cup, most Koreans don't bother preparing for him and he gets a lot of wins. Now that he's beaten Rogue, Maru, and Byun, Koreans are gonna start looking at his games. And lets be honest, if Byun or Maru went for lategame they would have both destroyed him.

Heck, the first player who reguarly plays against Nerchio (Mana) outplayed him.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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