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Nerchio on KeSPA Cup: "Koreans aren't the only ones that k…
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On September 17 2016 23:31 NEEDZMOAR wrote: I dont get this reasoning, you dont see NHL teams competing in SHL. You dont see Barcelona making a quick tour through eastern europe grabbing the league prize money from Ukraine, Bulgaria Romania Poland etc. How do you expect scenes to grow and foreigners to improve and try if theres no incentive for them to play? I don't get when people on the internet compare SC2 to footie. Like bro. Any single one of the countries you mentioned has more people who play football at some level than the entire SC2 playerbase. Of course national leagues prosper in a game where most countries have hundreds of thousands, if not millions of players, and even bigger numbers of people who follow it. Of course talent is fostered and grown in such an environment. This hasn't happened and won't happened in SC2 because it's a niche game in a dead genre, so it's very stupid to try to force it at the expense of literally the only country where it can and did happen, and at the expense of the best players in the world. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On September 17 2016 23:31 NEEDZMOAR wrote: I dont get this reasoning, you dont see NHL teams competing in SHL. You dont see Barcelona making a quick tour through eastern europe grabbing the league prize money from Ukraine, Bulgaria Romania Poland etc. How do you expect scenes to grow and foreigners to improve and try if theres no incentive for them to play? As for korean bias, one can look at skillfactors such as builds strats and mechanics. Unless youve been living under a rock its been pretty clear that while korean zergs have been struggling in LotV because they desperately try to keep the momentum in their matchups, foreigners accepted that you can no longer dictate the games in ZvT until hivetech, you just have to defend and play positional ZvT. However if you look at pure mechanics, sure the best korean zerg (dark) has better mechanics than foreigners. Because it's not the same system structure, that is comparing apples to oranges really. The incentive for them to play is the same as the Koreans, the money is there, just because they weren't at the time good enough to get it doesn't mean the Koreans should be banished and punished for being better. To use your analogly that would be like the NHL banishing all the playoff teams from last year from competing so the Leafs have a chance to make the playoffs. | ||
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BaneRiders
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BaneRiders
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On September 17 2016 23:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote: Because it's not the same system structure, that is comparing apples to oranges really. The incentive for them to play is the same as the Koreans, the money is there, just because they weren't at the time good enough to get it doesn't mean the Koreans should be banished and punished for being better. To use your analogly that would be like the NHL banishing all the playoff teams from last year from competing so the Leafs have a chance to make the playoffs. They do change the draft order depending on the results to give the weaker team a better chance  | ||
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Lightrush
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Shellshock
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On September 17 2016 23:53 BaneRiders wrote: They do change the draft order depending on the results to give the weaker team a better chance A draft order is a bit different from literally stopping the teams from competing  . | ||
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hiroshOne
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adamhu10
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Koreans might be behind the meta because they don't use innovation to win, they use mechanics. Once the BIG update passes, and the metagame settles (say, in a year) we'll be back to broodwar style domination. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 18 2016 00:25 adamhu10 wrote: Nerchio thinks he's better than Dark...ok. Koreans might be behind the meta because they don't use innovation to win, they use mechanics. Once the BIG update passes, and the metagame settles (say, in a year) we'll be back to broodwar style domination. Back to? Koreans are still better players than foreigners, they just can't fight in tournaments together so Nerchio can get away with saying they're overrated | ||
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Corwinus
Croatia96 Posts
On September 17 2016 23:32 ParksonVN wrote: Ok so foreigners are blaming Korean for being too good ? Tell me whats wrong about Korean ? They practice harder, they are more professional (while you guys still study or hang out, they stay at teamhouse at practice) and you blame them ? Seems legit LOL. And about Nerchio, i havent seen him beat any top tier Korean (at least in a major tournament) and he answered this interview like he is one of the best Zerg (if not the best) in the world, underestimate the Koreans. I'd like to know what this guy will say when he lose in the first rounds of Kespa cup, especially against Korean. And yes, Korean arent the only ones know to play Starcraft 2, but they are much more better than the rest. Its like a 6 year-old boy shouts at his math teacher: "hey, you are not the only one knows Mathematic" That first part is absolutely not true. Almost all pros practice now as hard as Koreans(and much harder than before with more incentive)... almost no pros are studying at the same time(only TLBunny afaik), and the only thing they generally have better is actual infrastructure, which does matter a ton(even if Byun won GSL without it, but he's both an outlier and also had KeSPA practice partners for it so...) He also just now, on equal terms, won vs Byun, Maru and Creator, granted in an online cup. Pretty sure he won't be knocked out of KeSPA Cup so easily. | ||
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
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Poopi
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On September 17 2016 23:56 Lightrush wrote: Still the most unlikable SC2 pro, though :/ He has a sense of humor (although a really sarcastic one) and interacts with the community on TL, I actually like him even though he can get really salty at times. | ||
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Ciaus237
South Africa288 Posts
Rekt. He never looked behind. | ||
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