Two more players qualified for KeSPA Cup through the North American Qualifier today.
First to secure his ticket to Seoul was TRUE, tearing through Raze, MajOr, viOLet and Scarlett with only two map losses.
Neeb finished in second place, edging out viOLet and Scarlett in two close series at the end, after initially falling to Scarlett. Unfortunately for both, they desperately needed the WCS Points to stay in the running for BlizzCon.
Blizzcon Update!
Here's what these most recent results mean for the WCS run-in.
viOLet is now entirely dependent on others not gaining enough points to overtake him in the rankings. Elazer (tied with him at #8), PtitDrogo and uThermal are close enough to do so by qualifying for KeSPA Cup alone.
MaSa is officially eliminated from BlizzCon competition. Blame goes to Scarlett and viOLet, who both beat him 2-0.
Hydra did not participate in the qualifier, which leaves his spot tangentially vulnerable. He should still be far enough ahead to make it, though.
TRUE and Neeb were both already qualified for the biggest event of the year before. But they could still up their standing in the ranking, resulting in better seeds at BlizzCon.
Has cannot participate in the EU Qualifier, effectively eliminating him from BlizzCon.
Scarlett is now officially eliminated from BlizzCon. Her chances were marginal to say the least (only a KeSPA Cup win and others failing would have sufficed), but a 2-3 defeat to Neeb in the final series seals her fate for good.
We will keep you updated with results from the EU Qualifier coming up in only a few hours.
It's a shame that TRUE can qualify through an NA qualifier. He's not even one GSL season removed from being a GSL Code S player and he's completely exploiting the system.
On September 16 2016 18:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's a shame that TRUE can qualify through an NA qualifier. He's not even one GSL season removed from being a GSL Code S player and he's completely exploiting the system.
What he was code S? I heard he was some mid tier korean stuck in code A able to "destroy" foreigners left and right :o
On September 16 2016 18:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's a shame that TRUE can qualify through an NA qualifier. He's not even one GSL season removed from being a GSL Code S player and he's completely exploiting the system.
What he was code S? I heard he was some mid tier korean stuck in code A able to "destroy" foreigners left and right :o
He somehow made it to Code S after Bunny turned off his brain and lost to random zerglings 3 games in a row.
On September 16 2016 18:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's a shame that TRUE can qualify through an NA qualifier. He's not even one GSL season removed from being a GSL Code S player and he's completely exploiting the system.
Maybe but that's a bit old news now isn't it, after winning WCS Summer
On September 16 2016 18:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's a shame that TRUE can qualify through an NA qualifier. He's not even one GSL season removed from being a GSL Code S player and he's completely exploiting the system.
What he was code S? I heard he was some mid tier korean stuck in code A able to "destroy" foreigners left and right :o
He somehow made it to Code S after Bunny turned off his brain and lost to random zerglings 3 games in a row.
That match was a joke. It was sooooo bad.
TRUE spent 9 months waiting for his visa. The moment it got done he packed up, forfeited Code S, and moved to America to play WCS. I think he did more than enough to be allowed to play in this qualifier. And as Penev said, he's already the WCS Summer champion. Bit late for complaints.
Kinda sad viOlet didn't manage to qualify, he was the only player in the fight for Blizzcon who attempted the Global Qualifier. Now I kinda hope his competition doesn't get points so he can qualify via tiebreaker.
On September 16 2016 18:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's a shame that TRUE can qualify through an NA qualifier. He's not even one GSL season removed from being a GSL Code S player and he's completely exploiting the system.
What he was code S? I heard he was some mid tier korean stuck in code A able to "destroy" foreigners left and right :o
He somehow made it to Code S after Bunny turned off his brain and lost to random zerglings 3 games in a row.
Yet Maru got stuck in code A because of Zest... Bracket luck goes both ways :/.
On September 16 2016 18:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's a shame that TRUE can qualify through an NA qualifier. He's not even one GSL season removed from being a GSL Code S player and he's completely exploiting the system.
What he was code S? I heard he was some mid tier korean stuck in code A able to "destroy" foreigners left and right :o
He somehow made it to Code S after Bunny turned off his brain and lost to random zerglings 3 games in a row.
noone could make a better assesment of that series, really.
On September 16 2016 18:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's a shame that TRUE can qualify through an NA qualifier. He's not even one GSL season removed from being a GSL Code S player and he's completely exploiting the system.
Lol Scarlett and neeb are the ones exploiting the system, if the system would be fair residency/origin wouldn't matter at all and all players would be allowed to qualify then scarlett and neeb would be knocked out in first round. Even with the current charity some people aren't happy i guess... should just give Scarlett a free code S trophy I guess...
On September 16 2016 18:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's a shame that TRUE can qualify through an NA qualifier. He's not even one GSL season removed from being a GSL Code S player and he's completely exploiting the system.
Lol Scarlett and neeb are the ones exploiting the system, if the system would be fair residency/origin wouldn't matter at all and all players would be allowed to qualify then scarlett and neeb would be knocked out in first round. Even with the current charity some people aren't happy i guess... should just give Scarlett a free code S trophy I guess...
No one is saying lets give foreigners a totally free ride. But if we're going to have an NA qualifier I would like to see some actual NA players come out of it. TRUE is a wonderful player, but he's so recent in the foreign scene it feels wrong that he's going to be the representative.
I think regardless of your opinion on what the system should be, no one is happy with how it currently is
On September 16 2016 18:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's a shame that TRUE can qualify through an NA qualifier. He's not even one GSL season removed from being a GSL Code S player and he's completely exploiting the system.
Yeah it is kind of silly that he came from Korea just so he could win a trip back to Korea to play in KeSPA Cup.
On September 16 2016 18:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's a shame that TRUE can qualify through an NA qualifier. He's not even one GSL season removed from being a GSL Code S player and he's completely exploiting the system.
Lol Scarlett and neeb are the ones exploiting the system, if the system would be fair residency/origin wouldn't matter at all and all players would be allowed to qualify then scarlett and neeb would be knocked out in first round. Even with the current charity some people aren't happy i guess... should just give Scarlett a free code S trophy I guess...
No one is saying lets give foreigners a totally free ride. But if we're going to have an NA qualifier I would like to see some actual NA players come out of it. TRUE is a wonderful player, but he's so recent in the foreign scene it feels wrong that he's going to be the representative.
I think regardless of your opinion on what the system should be, no one is happy with how it currently is
he has a Visa, he lives in america... I don't see what's wrong with him representing the NA region.
Really don't like that True can qualify through NA server when he was Code S last season :/. I like the idea of this tournament because we finally see foreigners in Korea, I was hoping for actual foreigners
Why is it cool when foreigner who live and train in korea play in NA qualifier, but not cool when a korean who lives and trains in NA plays in an NA qualifier?
On September 17 2016 04:52 Heyjoray wrote: Why is it cool when foreigner who live and train in korea play in NA qualifier, but not cool when a korean who lives and trains in NA plays in an NA qualifier?
Because the foreigner who lives and trains in Korea isn't doing it for easy money at the expense of the Korean scene.
No, they're just doing it to benefit from the Korean scene. If these Koreans live in NA and play on the server then they're actively contributing to the scene. That's more than can be said about foreigners going to Korea.
On September 16 2016 22:11 imre wrote: So True was a fluke at Montreal right ?
Not a fluke, no, but considering he dropped from that peak performance almost immediately, with losses to most people in the top 8 of WCS Circuit it's far more likely it was a great day for him than "OMG He's Code S and dominating everyone cause foreigners suck!" He's upper echelon, but not a dominant tip top player in the scene.
On September 17 2016 05:01 Olli wrote: No, they're just doing it to benefit from the Korean scene. If these Koreans live in NA and play on the server then they're actively contributing to the scene. That's more than can be said about foreigners going to Korea.
foreigners that went to korea just trained up the GSL champ
On September 17 2016 04:52 Heyjoray wrote: Why is it cool when foreigner who live and train in korea play in NA qualifier, but not cool when a korean who lives and trains in NA plays in an NA qualifier?
Because the foreigner who lives and trains in Korea isn't doing it for easy money at the expense of the Korean scene.
maybe not easy money but considering Scarlett knocked Creator and Seed out of SSL qualifiers it's definitely at the expense of the korean scene.
Who cares if True has lived too short time in NA? He has a visa, he's already there. He would have been contributing to the scene for longer if the visa was approved earlier. You conveniently forget about this because he wasn't born there.
Let me remind you that WCS is not about locking people for where they're born, language, etc. It's meant to only allow people who contribute to the scene. In the light of that, he's doing more than other guys like...
On September 17 2016 05:01 Olli wrote: No, they're just doing it to benefit from the Korean scene. If these Koreans live in NA and play on the server then they're actively contributing to the scene. That's more than can be said about foreigners going to Korea.
It's a shame that TRUE can qualify through an NA qualifier. He's not even one GSL season removed from being a GSL Code S player and he's completely exploiting the system.
"Thay took arr jaabs!!" "Build that wall!!"
..this is what my compatriots have turned into.. smh..
On September 16 2016 18:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's a shame that TRUE can qualify through an NA qualifier. He's not even one GSL season removed from being a GSL Code S player and he's completely exploiting the system.
On one hand I agree with you
On the other. Considering how much Koreans have been fucked over by WCS. Good.
On September 17 2016 09:40 Silvana wrote: Who cares if True has lived too short time in NA? He has a visa, he's already there. He would have been contributing to the scene for longer if the visa was approved earlier. You conveniently forget about this because he wasn't born there.
Let me remind you that WCS is not about locking people for where they're born, language, etc. It's meant to only allow people who contribute to the scene. In the light of that, he's doing more than other guys like...
On September 17 2016 05:01 Olli wrote: No, they're just doing it to benefit from the Korean scene. If these Koreans live in NA and play on the server then they're actively contributing to the scene. That's more than can be said about foreigners going to Korea.
Qtf.
WCS is also about nurturing the development of the SC2 scene worldwide. Koreans have the benefit of being trained and regimented in well-resourced team settings, on a competitive ladder, and with the best e-sports infrastructure in the world -- something foreigners do not have. For them to travel elsewhere for easier money diminishes the opportunities of local scenes, and it diminishes the fan bases within those scenes.
This has nothing to do with TRUE not being born in the US, or about his race (MaSa is neither white nor a Canadian citizen, but he doesn't raise the same controversy). It's about the longevity of the foreign viewership and interest in the scene.
On September 17 2016 09:40 Silvana wrote: Who cares if True has lived too short time in NA? He has a visa, he's already there. He would have been contributing to the scene for longer if the visa was approved earlier. You conveniently forget about this because he wasn't born there.
Let me remind you that WCS is not about locking people for where they're born, language, etc. It's meant to only allow people who contribute to the scene. In the light of that, he's doing more than other guys like...
On September 17 2016 05:01 Olli wrote: No, they're just doing it to benefit from the Korean scene. If these Koreans live in NA and play on the server then they're actively contributing to the scene. That's more than can be said about foreigners going to Korea.
Qtf.
WCS is also about nurturing the development of the SC2 scene worldwide. Koreans have the benefit of being trained and regimented in well-resourced team settings, on a competitive ladder, and with the best e-sports infrastructure in the world -- something foreigners do not have. For them to travel elsewhere for easier money diminishes the opportunities of local scenes, and it diminishes the fan bases within those scenes.
This has nothing to do with TRUE not being born in the US, or about his race (MaSa is neither white nor a Canadian citizen, but he doesn't raise the same controversy). It's about the longevity of the foreign viewership and interest in the scene.
At this point I'm thinking it does have to do with those things.
You talk about True as if he wasn't part of the scene and was simply benefiting from it. Again he has a visa which he worked hard and eaited long to obtain, he is living there, and playing the local ladder so whatever advantage he has (aka korean training) other people in NA are now making use of. But if those things aren't enough to make people feel he is a deserving and fair competitor, what else is he missing? (I'm not talking about what he is missing according to rules, I'm talking about getting people's approval).
What I'm seeing is that people bitched about Koreans taking NA jobs and money. The supposed reason for this bitching was that the Koreans were not giving anything back. Now Koreans like True are giving back, but it's not enough? Forgive me but I'm starting to believe that "not giving anything back" was not the real reason in the first place.
On September 17 2016 09:40 Silvana wrote: Who cares if True has lived too short time in NA? He has a visa, he's already there. He would have been contributing to the scene for longer if the visa was approved earlier. You conveniently forget about this because he wasn't born there.
Let me remind you that WCS is not about locking people for where they're born, language, etc. It's meant to only allow people who contribute to the scene. In the light of that, he's doing more than other guys like...
On September 17 2016 05:01 Olli wrote: No, they're just doing it to benefit from the Korean scene. If these Koreans live in NA and play on the server then they're actively contributing to the scene. That's more than can be said about foreigners going to Korea.
Qtf.
WCS is also about nurturing the development of the SC2 scene worldwide. Koreans have the benefit of being trained and regimented in well-resourced team settings, on a competitive ladder, and with the best e-sports infrastructure in the world -- something foreigners do not have. For them to travel elsewhere for easier money diminishes the opportunities of local scenes, and it diminishes the fan bases within those scenes.
This has nothing to do with TRUE not being born in the US, or about his race (MaSa is neither white nor a Canadian citizen, but he doesn't raise the same controversy). It's about the longevity of the foreign viewership and interest in the scene.
At this point I'm thinking it does have to do with those things.
You talk about True as if he wasn't part of the scene and was simply benefiting from it. Again he has a visa which he worked hard and eaited long to obtain, he is living there, and playing the local ladder so whatever advantage he has (aka korean training) other people in NA are now making use of. But if those things aren't enough to make people feel he is a deserving and fair competitor, what else is he missing? (I'm not talking about what he is missing according to rules, I'm talking about getting people's approval).
What I'm seeing is that people bitched about Koreans taking NA jobs and money. The supposed reason for this bitching was that the Koreans were not giving anything back. Now Koreans like True are giving back, but it's not enough? Forgive me but I'm starting to believe that "not giving anything back" was not the real reason in the first place.
I see very few people complaining about TRUE being in America. The arguments I see is the classic foreign vs Korea "TRUE won Montreal therefore all foreigners suck" vs, what I believe is more likely the case " It was a great run, but not indicative of the skill gap because he did next to nothing noteworthy before and after the victory. He also avoided a large number of top foreigners."
On September 17 2016 11:56 Phredxor wrote: NA should just be glad Polt didn't try and qualify.
Polt hasn't been playing consistently as of late. He would be a threat for sure but not as much as True. Besides, he just got last in a group with a Korean and two foreigners.
EPT
TRUE, tearing through 
Raze, 
Neeb finished in second place, edging out 
