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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10125 Posts
August 14 2016 17:05 GMT
#41
so charge became the same as BW?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-14 17:10:10
August 14 2016 17:06 GMT
#42
First off this is the kind of patches that need to come out to keep this game alive, radical sweeping things that tackle multiple issues at a time and brings underused units into the lime light.

Terran changes are phenomenal, the new Cyclone and Tank are going to be awesome as well as Mutalisks being viable in the match up again is going to make ZvT great again. The Banshee change was already tested and it's OP as hell so I don't know why they keep bringing it back from the dead. Vikings getting a well deserved buff as well, Terran changes are 9/10

Protoss changes seem decent, definitely not bad or anything. The Tempest change looks really good, the ground range is hilarious so I'm glad to see the little Corsair merge thing they got going on it will make the unit more tactical. DT blink is completely absurd, they are already strong in the current meta I see zero reason to buff them at all. I would have preferred Charge to be reworked to Zealot speed but I'm glad the Protoss Gateway army will be more mobile. I give Protoss changes 8/10.

Zerg changes are kind of bleh but I play Zerg and we're getting mostly nerfs or minor changes so whatever. The Hydralisk changes looks totally phenomenal, Hydralisks are total crap against units that they should be strong against, all of the crying Protoss players need only see that almost every unit in the Protoss arsenal shits on Hydralisks and they will realize they are just being race biased. Zealots, Adepts (omg), Archons, Carriers, Phoenix (rofl), Colossus, High Templar, if it wasn't that they turned into Lurkers nobody would even build Hydralisks in ZvP and already nobody builds them in ZvT, the unit needed and deserved a buff.

Infestor changes look terrible besides the size and collision, just buff IT's back and make Fungal Growth hit harder, it's not that difficult to make the spell casters good, the Raven changes kind of sucked as well, David still looks lost on balancing spell casters.

Oh, and remove the motherfucking Swarm Host, it's not a good unit David I'm sorry, the community has spoken, it's trash, rework it to be good against mass air (literally any unit that discourages mass turtle air in SC2 is a good idea imo) or just scrap it and be done with it, you're pretty much making the unit free so people will use it lol.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 14 2016 17:06 GMT
#43
On August 15 2016 01:52 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2016 01:51 Deathstar wrote:
Make TvT great again!


Make TvT mech again!

make everything mech again!
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
August 14 2016 17:06 GMT
#44
Raping F5 of Avilo's stream/twitter. For the 1st time in history of SC2, he's gonna be satisfied with the patch changes, and rightfully so. This is going to be awesome!
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12514 Posts
August 14 2016 17:06 GMT
#45
That's a lot of stuff.

Not all of it is making it to the game and some of it is kind of generic, so commenting on any of that is a bit random. I did like the mention of the "incredible range" of the tempest. Using the term incredible to describe something that is here because you decided it would be here made me chuckle.
No will to live, no wish to die
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
August 14 2016 17:07 GMT
#46
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
August 14 2016 17:07 GMT
#47
On August 15 2016 02:04 Psychobabas wrote:
Why 4 months of waiting???

This is where Blizzard fails continuously. They are just too damn slow to implement radical changes. Look at what happened to Diablo 3.

So implement this right before Blizzcon? That's just crazy
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12514 Posts
August 14 2016 17:08 GMT
#48
On August 15 2016 02:06 Everlong wrote:
Raping F5 of Avilo's stream/twitter. For the 1st time in history of SC2, he's gonna be satisfied with the patch changes, and rightfully so. This is going to be awesome!


That's a misunderstanding of Avilo if I've ever seen one.
No will to live, no wish to die
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3175 Posts
August 14 2016 17:09 GMT
#49
TAAAAAAAAAAAAANKS!!!!
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 14 2016 17:09 GMT
#50
needs more terran air to ground buffs kappa

User was warned for this post
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14001 Posts
August 14 2016 17:09 GMT
#51
Adept nerf plz?
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1351 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-14 17:10:14
August 14 2016 17:10 GMT
#52
Nice changes, dont like burrowed infestors casting fungal though. Guess I have to play some random again to learn all those changes Blink DTs will also be very interesting^^
monchi | IdrA | Flash
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 14 2016 17:10 GMT
#53
On August 15 2016 02:04 Psychobabas wrote:
Why 4 months of waiting???

This is where Blizzard fails continuously. They are just too damn slow to implement radical changes. Look at what happened to Diablo 3.

Test map is coming out in a few days. They NEED to test these out for a few months so it isn't all a big trainwreck.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1005 Posts
August 14 2016 17:11 GMT
#54
On August 15 2016 02:09 Cricketer12 wrote:
Adept nerf plz?


I don't think Adepts are going to need to be nerfed, it's better to buff other races options to fight OP units then to just keep nerfing the shit out of everything. I think the new Hydralisk and Tank will perform much better against this unit.
Legobiten
Profile Joined October 2015
71 Posts
August 14 2016 17:11 GMT
#55
Avilo is masturbating so hard right now.
FalconHoof
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada183 Posts
August 14 2016 17:11 GMT
#56
Reading these proposed changes makes me feel like Blizzard has no fucking clue what they are doing... "We want to make every build viable for every stage of the game for every skill level of player while maintaining a strong professional scene..." Starcraft is truly fucked boys
Masturbation this good deserves it's own foreplay.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 14 2016 17:12 GMT
#57
On August 15 2016 02:11 FalconHoof wrote:
Reading these proposed changes makes me feel like Blizzard has no fucking clue what they are doing... "We want to make every build viable for every stage of the game for every skill level of player while maintaining a strong professional scene..." Starcraft is truly fucked boys

mech should be extra viable though
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
August 14 2016 17:12 GMT
#58
On August 15 2016 02:11 FalconHoof wrote:
Reading these proposed changes makes me feel like Blizzard has no fucking clue what they are doing... "We want to make every build viable for every stage of the game for every skill level of player while maintaining a strong professional scene..." Starcraft is truly fucked boys


Or maybe you are just a negative nancy.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 14 2016 17:14 GMT
#59
Very happy that they've announced these. Was hoping for an Adept change, but I love that they're bringing in fresh things.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
August 14 2016 17:14 GMT
#60
Really not a fan on the big mech buff, I can understand those who are happy of it and I hope they'll be pleased by it, but playing against it is really not the game I want to play. Nonetheless it would have been a very nice 5 years of playing, can't complain about it !
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