LotV Design Changes announced - Page 45

On August 22 2016 07:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I want units to spread out more while moving, yes. That would buff defenders advantage (which is imo good) and nerf deathballs because you cannot have your insane dps on a small area anymore while attacking.

Not sure what you mean with "problems" around narrow pathways tbh, imo it would actually make these meaningful.
AOE as it is now would be nerfed, but at the same time you could actually have strong aoe again which kills stuff because it wouldn't be easy to hit that "great storm" or "beautiful fungal"

Do i want units to be as derpy as they were in bw? Not necessarily, but i want some of that pathing effect in sc2 because i think it would make the game better in some regards.

If that includes that people have to micro manage their units a bit more (as in unit placement during fights, not pressing ability buttons) that's also a plus for me personally. Again, 'more like' bw, not exactly as bw.

On September 02 2016 02:42 Apolo wrote:


There was a thread back in the time of WoL where someone made a mod or scenario (not sure right now) and posted in-game screenshots of exactly what SC2 armies would look like if that was implemented (much better!). You see, that idea has been floating around for ages, it still sticks because it makes absolute sense, and yet here we are. Somewhat sad.

Either way if you're interested you can do some digging and maybe find those pics I'm talking about so others can understand better.

On September 03 2016 01:37 Clbull wrote:
I think they need to do more drastic things to differentiate SC2 from other RTS games and make it more interesting.

One thing I'd like to see is an Allied Commanders competitive 1v1 mode, where you can have matchups like Raynor vs Swann or Artanis vs Kerrigan.

Keep rebalanced versions of the existing Co-op upgrades, but incorporate them in a WoW/SC2 campaign style talent tree where you unlock new talents when you level up, and can switch between them between games.

On September 26 2016 20:03 Zwijn wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the right place but I would like to make a suggestion for a design change to the siege tank that i think is worth exploring.

I have always found it strange that the siege tank fire's at an angle, like a mortar or artillery, and yet the shell arrives instantly at the target.

In addition I believe that the unit design might be better with respect to gameplay, if the tank shell actually had some sort of parabolic flight. With a slight delay between firing and hitting the target, there will be the possibillity of overkill when using larger numbers of tanks close to each other. This means that the damage can be higher because the unit will scale less efficiently, making smaller numbers of tanks stronger than they are now.

Obviously I don't mean a flight time as lang as a Ravager shot but more along the lines of an infestor fungal shot, maybe slightly shorter. I think the flight time just has to be big enough to allow for serious overkill, but short enough to still be able to hit moving targets that do not change their course(by automatically calculating how far in advance the shot will have to hit).

I believe such a change will give some new micro potential for both sides. The player who controls the tanks has to spread them out to get maximum value, and the other player can try to dodge a shots by changing course right after the shell has been fired. Maybe fully dodging a shell would be a bit to much but i think it would be cool if a player can time a change in unit direction in order to not recieve full damage.
Another possible micro feature would be to allow for forced fire on some location. This way a tank can already shoot before an incomming target is in range, or a player can anticipate on the other player trying to dodge a shot and make a gues to which side the unit will evade.

Because this change will make friendly fire even more scary maybe a lategame upgrade can be added to the armory to reduce friendly fire by 75% or something, like in the wings of libery campaign.

On September 26 2016 20:03 Zwijn wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the right place but I would like to make a suggestion for a design change to the siege tank that i think is worth exploring.

I have always found it strange that the siege tank fire's at an angle, like a mortar or artillery, and yet the shell arrives instantly at the target.

In addition I believe that the unit design might be better with respect to gameplay, if the tank shell actually had some sort of parabolic flight. With a slight delay between firing and hitting the target, there will be the possibillity of overkill when using larger numbers of tanks close to each other. This means that the damage can be higher because the unit will scale less efficiently, making smaller numbers of tanks stronger than they are now.

Obviously I don't mean a flight time as lang as a Ravager shot but more along the lines of an infestor fungal shot, maybe slightly shorter. I think the flight time just has to be big enough to allow for serious overkill, but short enough to still be able to hit moving targets that do not change their course(by automatically calculating how far in advance the shot will have to hit).

I believe such a change will give some new micro potential for both sides. The player who controls the tanks has to spread them out to get maximum value, and the other player can try to dodge a shots by changing course right after the shell has been fired. Maybe fully dodging a shell would be a bit to much but i think it would be cool if a player can time a change in unit direction in order to not recieve full damage.
Another possible micro feature would be to allow for forced fire on some location. This way a tank can already shoot before an incomming target is in range, or a player can anticipate on the other player trying to dodge a shot and make a gues to which side the unit will evade.

Because this change will make friendly fire even more scary maybe a lategame upgrade can be added to the armory to reduce friendly fire by 75% or something, like in the wings of libery campaign.

On September 26 2016 21:05 Alexcalibur1996 wrote:
The cast range for the tempest ability is something I think could be nerfed. Without friendly damage, it makes high Templar storms useless. Also, it's so easy to lock down entire mineral lines with this ability right now. In my opinion, the ability needs to be redesigned from scratch.

On September 26 2016 20:36 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:


no. That would be another bad design, like a shooting pylon. I don't think it should be possible to dodge tank shots.

On September 26 2016 21:12 sabas123 wrote:

The problem is that only spells have to potential for overkill, just giving a slight delay between fire and missle hit won't change that (look at stalkers for example)

I just think it would be worth exploring a tank shell with non-zero flight time. Whether it should be possible to partly or completely dodge a shell depends on how this change would be implemented.
Another variation could be some sort of guided shell that always hits the target. This way no evasion would be possible but there is still the potential for overkill.