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Proleague Round 3 Grand Finals in IEM Shanghai - Page 2

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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
June 30 2016 16:15 GMT
#21
Nothing changes, playtime will be the same, no west vs east, if you are not chinese, this isnt even a small thing.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1221 Posts
June 30 2016 16:19 GMT
#22
Really hard for me to judge if it's good or bad. Quite surprising and confusing. Doesn't change much for fans outside of Korea and China (unless they change schedule). Must feel bad for Korean fans and people who planned a trip to Korea though since it was announced so late.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 16:26:12
June 30 2016 16:25 GMT
#23
quoted by mistake
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 30 2016 16:38 GMT
#24
On July 01 2016 00:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
where was the round 2 finals played at?

Nexon Arena.

It being in Shanghai probably means Europeans won't be up to watch it live.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Antonidas
Profile Joined August 2014
United States105 Posts
June 30 2016 16:42 GMT
#25
*wishes he was a health care professional already*
as long as there is Starcraft, life is good *insert propaganda here*
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 16:45:50
June 30 2016 16:45 GMT
#26
On July 01 2016 00:56 Silvana wrote:
nvm I'm so stupid I didn't read the "Round 3" part and was thinking I was going to miss the big event. Phew!

Forget everything I said previously, I'm sure Korean fans can live without a regular round finals and there's no reason to worry.

Exactly, I wanted to correct you ...
And if this is rude towards somebody, then only towards the foreigners ... as nobody will care about them and their bracket, when the people can see the actually best players in the world playing ... It is like when NHL is playing some matches in Japan or Europe ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
June 30 2016 16:46 GMT
#27
On July 01 2016 01:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 00:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
where was the round 2 finals played at?

Nexon Arena.

It being in Shanghai probably means Europeans won't be up to watch it live.


One hour time difference between China and Korea so the starting time shouldn't be different.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 30 2016 16:57 GMT
#28
On July 01 2016 01:46 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 01:38 Elentos wrote:
On July 01 2016 00:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
where was the round 2 finals played at?

Nexon Arena.

It being in Shanghai probably means Europeans won't be up to watch it live.


One hour time difference between China and Korea so the starting time shouldn't be different.

I don't remember any event held in China in recent times that started that late honestly.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
June 30 2016 17:00 GMT
#29
On July 01 2016 00:28 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 00:26 FireCake wrote:
usually it takes a long time to be able to go to china


Nooooooooo goddammit I'm so screwed! :'(
Also you're damn right on those points.

And by the way ... getting a visa for China is a question of hours ... if you know, where to ask for it ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
June 30 2016 17:14 GMT
#30
Nothing changes in regards to the main event. This is just a nice addition.
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 17:50:01
June 30 2016 17:47 GMT
#31
For me, this is absolutely great news!

1. It means, that IEM is not completely uninterested in SC2, as it seemed during the announcement of WCS2016 ("we need to subsidy IEM and DHs so that they keep SC2 in their program, and it will be foreigners only - otherwise SC2 might disappear from their program completely"). And here, from their own will, IEM brings to one of their venues the highest level of SC2. As they are not allowed to bring the best players into the event itself (well, not IEM's fault), they found a way, how to do it and not break the WCS2016 rules.

2. I strongly hope, the viewership numbers will explode. And if IEM sees that the main event with foreigners and their mix of good performances and terrible mistakes brings 20k viewers, while the highest level at the Proleague finals brings 40k viewers, they could start to plan 2017 events with SC2 in the traditional way and eventually bring us a row of global events (even without any WCS points).

3. When I was watching Proleague in the past, somehow I was disappointed that the viewership numbers were lower than e.g. GSL. Some people probably watch tournaments only, or GSL only, and are not interested in a weekly competition ... But now, even the people, who will watch this one tournament, will see, how great Proleague is and the numbers for the regular weekly matches in the future will grow. If this is a success, then the probability that there will be Proleague also in 2017 will increase.

4. Foreign fans (well, OK Chinese fans) will see the highest level SC2, Korean players will attend at least one event abroad ... I see a nice promotion for SC2 abroad in it, like when NHL plays some matches in Japan or Europe, to promote Ice Hockey.

5. Foreign players (e.g. FireCake) can see the real stars, about whom they dream every night :-), they can "breathe the same air", maybe even touch Maru's mouse, I am sure, this will be unforgettable for them :-)
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
WhosQuany
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany257 Posts
June 30 2016 18:30 GMT
#32
ESL got dem connections yo "PROLEAGUE HYPE"
Goin back to Cali
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
June 30 2016 18:37 GMT
#33
On July 01 2016 01:57 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 01:46 digmouse wrote:
On July 01 2016 01:38 Elentos wrote:
On July 01 2016 00:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
where was the round 2 finals played at?

Nexon Arena.

It being in Shanghai probably means Europeans won't be up to watch it live.


One hour time difference between China and Korea so the starting time shouldn't be different.

I don't remember any event held in China in recent times that started that late honestly.


Proleague is different, they have their own TV schedule to follow so their usual starting time won't change.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
June 30 2016 18:42 GMT
#34
The only thing I want is some fun showmatches because the best best of both sides are attending this event
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
June 30 2016 18:52 GMT
#35
On July 01 2016 03:42 NinjaToss wrote:
The only thing I want is some fun showmatches because the best best of both sides are attending this event


A proleague style showmatch between the top4 foreigners and the round 3 winning team would be so cool.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
June 30 2016 18:53 GMT
#36
poor foreigners who have to play on the same day as the SPL event
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 30 2016 19:22 GMT
#37
Damn I saw Apollos announcement of an announcement last night and thought for sure we were finally getting a Global Event. This is really disappointing. A match that was going to happen anyway is just taking place at IEM, but they still won't be allowed to play in the actual tournament.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
sweffymo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States62 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 19:33:17
June 30 2016 19:33 GMT
#38
On July 01 2016 04:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Damn I saw Apollos announcement of an announcement last night and thought for sure we were finally getting a Global Event. This is really disappointing. A match that was going to happen anyway is just taking place at IEM, but they still won't be allowed to play in the actual tournament.


And then he posted on Reddit saying something to the effect of "How DARE you be disappointed by our worthless announcement? You must not appreciate us or the work we do at all."
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
June 30 2016 19:40 GMT
#39
On July 01 2016 04:33 sweffymo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 04:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Damn I saw Apollos announcement of an announcement last night and thought for sure we were finally getting a Global Event. This is really disappointing. A match that was going to happen anyway is just taking place at IEM, but they still won't be allowed to play in the actual tournament.


And then he posted on Reddit saying something to the effect of "How DARE you be disappointed by our worthless announcement? You must not appreciate us or the work we do at all."


I've seen him more than once go on a thread and pick someone's shitty comment, but then he never addresses the well written critics or the ones that reply calling him out or asking relevant questions. What a stupid attitude.
[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1221 Posts
June 30 2016 19:40 GMT
#40
On July 01 2016 04:33 sweffymo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 04:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Damn I saw Apollos announcement of an announcement last night and thought for sure we were finally getting a Global Event. This is really disappointing. A match that was going to happen anyway is just taking place at IEM, but they still won't be allowed to play in the actual tournament.


And then he posted on Reddit saying something to the effect of "How DARE you be disappointed by our worthless announcement? You must not appreciate us or the work we do at all."

Now, now, let's be precise.
Apollo:
you (as a whole) really have to start being more grateful for the work that is being done for sc2. A lot of people are working very hard for the community.


That said, it's not like I expected something else but comments like this don't really help the situation and they only provoked some really angry replies. (I have to say there were some really constructive ones as well, but they will probably get buried and unnoticed)

As for the comment itself, it bothers me because I always try to appreciate people who work for the scene but current system just doesn't feel right. And suddenly moving finals of Korean event to another country doesn't feel right either. They could announce it earlier at the very least, for people who wanted to see it live.
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