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2016 StarCraft II World Championship Series - Page 2

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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
December 17 2015 21:29 GMT
#21
On December 18 2015 06:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Don't like this convoluted system... Maybe it will suit a smaller pool of players, but I don't think this is an improvement. And I hope to be wrong, but I think Global Finals are really going to suck.

I am afraid about teams getting smaller and Koreans outside KeSPA leaving SC2 since they cannot into Proleague Damn
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 17 2015 21:30 GMT
#22
Why are you guys talking about the number of points in Korea? It's irrelevant, they are not competing in the points with the non-Korean players.

Also, remember the list of traitors.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55572 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 21:30:37
December 17 2015 21:30 GMT
#23
I'm not completely averse to where they're going with this (though the region lock on Circuit events is bleh), but it's really, really convoluted imo.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 17 2015 21:30 GMT
#24
I don't know what to think about it. I guess we'll have to watch how it turns out.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
December 17 2015 21:31 GMT
#25
At least I will save more money by not going to Europe tournaments.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55572 Posts
December 17 2015 21:31 GMT
#26
Oh wait, did I read that right, out of the 4 groups at the global playoffs, 2 will be full Korean and 2 will be full foreigner? Oh dear.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 17 2015 21:32 GMT
#27
The upside is that any non-WCS tourneys that will have actual Korean-foreigner interaction can expect a huge number of viewers next year
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
December 17 2015 21:32 GMT
#28
This kind of announcement ignores the reason why Koreans are so much better to begin with. Koreans are not inherently better at StarCraft in any way. They are human beings just like everyone else.

When you isolate the Koreans into their own, much more competitive ecosystem, you deprive the foreign scene of the necessary barometer for quality that they need. You lack anything to compare their talent against.

Putting the Koreans in a protective bubble to keep them from slaughtering foreigners is not going to improve the skill of the foreigners in any way. It's only going to artificially prop them up and promote lower quality games for everyone.

This is fucking terrible. Mark my words, 8 Koreans will advance to the Ro8 a the Global Finals.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
December 17 2015 21:32 GMT
#29
On December 18 2015 06:31 Elentos wrote:
Oh wait, did I read that right, out of the 4 groups at the global playoffs, 2 will be full Korean and 2 will be full foreigner? Oh dear.

Check the picture again, each group will consist of 2 Koreans and 2 foreigners, GSL type group, top2 advance
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 21:34:23
December 17 2015 21:32 GMT
#30
The GSL and SSL are the most prestigious StarCraft II tournaments in the world, and for WCS 2016, the prize pool and points are increasing!


This is so misleading it's not even funny. Who cares if GSL/SSL point earnings increase if they're not being compared against NA/EU point earnings? Literally the only people this change benefits is foreigners who go to Korea and do well, although if they're that talented, they should just stay in WCS Circuit and clean house, because that will be infinitely easier.

The number of KR Koreans at Blizzcon is hard capped at 8, they can win a billion points or 50 points, it makes zero difference.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
December 17 2015 21:32 GMT
#31
On December 18 2015 06:31 Elentos wrote:
Oh wait, did I read that right, out of the 4 groups at the global playoffs, 2 will be full Korean and 2 will be full foreigner? Oh dear.

The infographic clearly indicates every group will be 2 Koreans + 2 Foreigners.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 21:33:23
December 17 2015 21:33 GMT
#32
E: nvm
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purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 21:36:49
December 17 2015 21:33 GMT
#33
Sigh, I understand that foreigners want foreigners to win, but I wish it was just all up to skill. All Koreans in the global finals? Great! Mixture? Great, if the foreigners deserve to be there.

Too much stuff trying to help out foreigners. Keep it separate or open everything up for both sides.

I want to see the best of the best.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
December 17 2015 21:33 GMT
#34
Dammit, Blizzard.
You had the chance to abort this and didn't care.

;/
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55572 Posts
December 17 2015 21:34 GMT
#35
On December 18 2015 06:32 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 06:31 Elentos wrote:
Oh wait, did I read that right, out of the 4 groups at the global playoffs, 2 will be full Korean and 2 will be full foreigner? Oh dear.

The infographic clearly indicates every group will be 2 Koreans + 2 Foreigners.

I ignored the stupid graphic. You're right.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Lgnarrow
Profile Joined April 2015
104 Posts
December 17 2015 21:34 GMT
#36
Wait, can koreans play in this Circuit WCS ?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 21:34:45
December 17 2015 21:34 GMT
#37
Only 2 seasons of GSL/SSL

SSL vs GSL is cool though.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55572 Posts
December 17 2015 21:34 GMT
#38
On December 18 2015 06:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Dammit, Blizzard.
You had the chance to abort this and didn't care.

;/

Did they though? You think any sponsor will agree with them cancelling this last second?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
December 17 2015 21:35 GMT
#39
On December 18 2015 06:32 DinoMight wrote:
This kind of announcement ignores the reason why Koreans are so much better to begin with. Koreans are not inherently better at StarCraft in any way. They are human beings just like everyone else.

When you isolate the Koreans into their own, much more competitive ecosystem, you deprive the foreign scene of the necessary barometer for quality that they need. You lack anything to compare their talent against.

Putting the Koreans in a protective bubble to keep them from slaughtering foreigners is not going to improve the skill of the foreigners in any way. It's only going to artificially prop them up and promote lower quality games for everyone.

This is fucking terrible. Mark my words, 8 Koreans will advance to the Ro8 a the Global Finals.

Also this creates much harsh environment in Korea where only the bestest of best prevail. Thus increasing their skill much more. Now some Koreans cannot go "who cares, I can win almost every foreigner event. There's a reason why there's some predator in lakes if you want to eat those fishes at some point. Otherwise they get fat, lazy and are not good for eating
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 21:39:25
December 17 2015 21:36 GMT
#40
On December 18 2015 06:34 Ansibled wrote:
Only 2 seasons of GSL/SSL

SSL vs GSL is cool though.

I'll bet my ass that KeSPA Cup will return and there will be more Korean events.

To be fair, if you look at it, this isn't that different from the 2015 system. DHs and IEMs are still the same that opens to anyone and will be dominated by Koreans, Koreans still have their GSLs, SSLs and maybe KeSPA Cups, WCS Circuit Championships which replaces WCS seasons are still mostly foreigners with some Koreans who have visa, the only thing new is the WCS Circuit Events which basically are smaller DHs/IEMs that are locked to foreigners and Blizzard is helping those. My only concern with the leak was locking DH/IEM to foreigners, now that is out of the question I don't have an issue with this.

Oh did I mention it looks like both Koreans and foreigners are getting more money?
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
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