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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 22 2015 13:40 GMT
#81
It was for the greater good. All that friction felt unnecessary and wouldn't have been good in the long run anyways.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 22 2015 13:46 GMT
#82
On October 22 2015 22:40 eviltomahawk wrote:
It was for the greater good. All that friction felt unnecessary and wouldn't have been good in the long run anyways.

This was excuse of so many bad deeds in history... Therefore I am not surprised someone used it.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
October 22 2015 13:51 GMT
#83
On October 22 2015 21:59 Thouhastmail wrote:
And.. Voila! they chose money that comes from balloons.

No.
They chose ethics, sportsmanship and common sense.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3752 Posts
October 22 2015 13:55 GMT
#84
On October 22 2015 22:51 RHoudini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 21:59 Thouhastmail wrote:
And.. Voila! they chose money that comes from balloons.

No.
They chose ethics, sportsmanship and common sense.

Who did? There's no ethics involved, it was far beyond sportsmanship and it was less common sense more PR & $$
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-22 13:58:51
October 22 2015 13:57 GMT
#85
On October 22 2015 22:06 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 22:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 22 2015 21:44 Strela wrote:
On October 22 2015 20:56 [Svall]Granis wrote:
This is getting way out of hand....soon Kespa dont want them to go to their local corner store to get milk because a progamer is also going to there....like wtf

How it works for people who commits a crime (not all of them)

You commit a crime, you get caught, you go to jail, you payed for your crime, life goes on.

How Kespa wants it to be

You commit a crime, you get caught, you go to jail, you payed for your crime, we will destroy your life.

How you want it to be.

You commit a crime, nothing happens and you get a medal.

Yes it's easy to make silly statements like this. Match fixing and cheaters destroy games. No pity for them. If a pedophile isn't allowed to work with children anymore I wouldn't drop a tear. Same goes for these guys.


Lol you can't be serious.
If a pedophile works with children there is a risk he does his crime again.
If a matchfixer is allowed to stream there is no such risk because streaming games is COMPLETELY UNRELATED to his crime.
He just gets discriminated from other parts of life because of a criminal past. This is not justice, it's revenge.

Well I guess for some people revenge is justice


The definition of justice is not something concrete. It's what people in the society you live in decide on. I don't see how this punishment is unreasonable at all. They are banned from making money from the game they abused and ruined. They are free to play the game whenever they want and move on to whatever they want with their lives. Some people are making it seem like these matchfixers's right are violated. That's ridiculous.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-22 13:59:18
October 22 2015 13:58 GMT
#86
On October 22 2015 22:55 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 22:51 RHoudini wrote:
On October 22 2015 21:59 Thouhastmail wrote:
And.. Voila! they chose money that comes from balloons.

No.
They chose ethics, sportsmanship and common sense.

Who did? There's no ethics involved, it was far beyond sportsmanship and it was less common sense more PR & $$


Kinda expected from a company that is supposed to make money though, i don't really understand where the uproar comes from. For us westerners, eSport might be all candy and marshmallows and stuff - that's quite the different story in Korea.

Especially considering what hit they took when it happened the last time.
On track to MA1950A.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
October 22 2015 14:04 GMT
#87
kespa thugs too strong...

smh
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
October 22 2015 14:06 GMT
#88
On October 22 2015 22:00 nimdil wrote:
GSL and their personal streams are different Afreeca channels.


Yet its the same company giving them a platform.

The Tour de France wouldn't allow advertisements for Lance Armstrong cycling lessons.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
October 22 2015 14:07 GMT
#89
unlucky times for those bw streamers
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50625 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-22 14:10:16
October 22 2015 14:09 GMT
#90
On October 22 2015 23:07 mishimaBeef wrote:
unlucky times for those bw streamers

not really, all of them rarely stream anyway.

savior deleted his afreeca account 2 months ago.
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jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
October 22 2015 14:15 GMT
#91
Well, I personally feel that matchfixers streaming was an issue best left to the court of public opinion (ie. those who feel that matchfixers don't deserve any attention, just boycott the stream), but Afreeca is certainly within their rights as a private company to ban whoever it wants to, and when you have pressure from both Kespa (especially important now that Afreeca is running a major league) and from your own users, it would be pretty hard to ignore those opinions.

In my opinion, all this hubbub over streaming is just a silly distraction from the REAL issues at stake - matchfixing in official matches. I am far more concerned over whether investigation of past games continues, and if additional safeguards are being put in place to deter/prevent additional matchfixing, than over whether the disgraced players get a couple balloons from misguided fans.
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-22 14:27:41
October 22 2015 14:21 GMT
#92
On October 22 2015 22:51 RHoudini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 21:59 Thouhastmail wrote:
And.. Voila! they chose money that comes from balloons.

No.
They chose ethics, sportsmanship and common sense.


LOL the best humour that I've heard

If you see afreeca's policy about betting streams, you would be very impressed.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 22 2015 14:23 GMT
#93
Lame.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 22 2015 14:25 GMT
#94
Good move Afreeca !
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
October 22 2015 14:37 GMT
#95
On October 22 2015 23:15 jubil wrote:
Well, I personally feel that matchfixers streaming was an issue best left to the court of public opinion (ie. those who feel that matchfixers don't deserve any attention, just boycott the stream), but Afreeca is certainly within their rights as a private company to ban whoever it wants to, and when you have pressure from both Kespa (especially important now that Afreeca is running a major league) and from your own users, it would be pretty hard to ignore those opinions.

In my opinion, all this hubbub over streaming is just a silly distraction from the REAL issues at stake - matchfixing in official matches. I am far more concerned over whether investigation of past games continues, and if additional safeguards are being put in place to deter/prevent additional matchfixing, than over whether the disgraced players get a couple balloons from misguided fans.

Well said.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Lazare1969
Profile Joined September 2014
United States318 Posts
October 22 2015 14:41 GMT
#96
AfreecaTV made a tactical mistake here.

If AfreecaTV simply didn't say anything, then they wouldn't have had this much negative attention and backlash and wouldn't be forced to ban matchfixers.

If a reporter or KeSPA eventually asks them whether they will do something about the matchfixers, AfreecaTV could've simply used the standard business tactic that Blizzard always uses, which is to imply some sort of vague postponement on a decision with a statement like "We thank you for sharing your concerns, as it is an important issue to us, and we are currently discussing with the AfreecaTV(TM) staff and will make the most fair decision in the upcoming future." Then the masses will forget about it soon after, and AfreecaTV could continue postponing that decision whenever a reporter asks them about it.
6 trillion
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
October 22 2015 14:41 GMT
#97
On October 22 2015 23:21 Thouhastmail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 22:51 RHoudini wrote:
On October 22 2015 21:59 Thouhastmail wrote:
And.. Voila! they chose money that comes from balloons.

No.
They chose ethics, sportsmanship and common sense.


LOL the best humour that I've heard

If you see afreeca's policy about betting streams, you would be very impressed.

Even a broken clock gets it right twice a day.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1103 Posts
October 22 2015 14:54 GMT
#98
It's sad that we live in a world where companies and social groups feel the need to punish people regardless of what the actual justice system of that country decides is a necessary punishment.

Why should one mistake ruin everything else you try and do online?
r_gg
Profile Joined August 2015
141 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-22 14:56:46
October 22 2015 14:55 GMT
#99
On October 22 2015 23:41 Lazare1969 wrote:
AfreecaTV made a tactical mistake here.

If AfreecaTV simply didn't say anything, then they wouldn't have had this much negative attention and backlash and wouldn't be forced to ban matchfixers.

If a reporter or KeSPA eventually asks them whether they will do something about the matchfixers, AfreecaTV could've simply used the standard business tactic that Blizzard always uses, which is to imply some sort of vague postponement on a decision with a statement like "We thank you for sharing your concerns, as it is an important issue to us, and we are currently discussing with the AfreecaTV(TM) staff and will make the most fair decision in the upcoming future." Then the masses will forget about it soon after, and AfreecaTV could continue postponing that decision whenever a reporter asks them about it.


No that won't work. Afreeca is THE streaming platform in Korea and it is where the past culprits have been streaming and making money. They were already under fire in the past about this.

The moment Kespa made the announcement, it was all about whether or not Afreeca will comply and everyone's attention was on them.

They would have faced backlash even if Kespa didn't make the announcement. Them reacting prematurely just shot them in the foot.
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Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
October 22 2015 15:00 GMT
#100
It's disgusting that they are trying to control the lives of people who have already paid for or will pay for their crimes by the court.. Them not being able to stream other games is just wrong..
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