EPTAfreecaTV bans matchfixers' streams - Page 4
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
On October 22 2015 21:09 OtherWorld wrote: Lame. Sad times we live in when PR is more important than reasoning. I am reasoning, and strongly applaud this decision. | ||
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Starecat
940 Posts
Points to KeSPA assholes as expected. People should kill the matchfixers as well living on Korea hurts eSports : ] | ||
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
On October 22 2015 21:09 OtherWorld wrote: Lame. Sad times we live in when PR is more important than reasoning. I agree, but there is really nothing they can do. In fact, them publicly stating (originally) that they would not ban ex-matchfixers is pretty respectable, and it makes me like Afreeca more than I did before. But when there's such an outrage for that kind of response, and you are trying to maintain relations with various other organizations (Kespa), the only choice they had was to cave, and just ban the players. It would be interesting to see where this falls in terms of "legality". Even if it was illegal for Afreeca/other streaming services to deny service (ban) them for their past actions, I doubt anyone would go to court over it though. Also, one shouldn't be mad at Afreeca for this. They have no actual say in this. Kespa and the Korean community is way more to blame for causing this to happen. | ||
nimdil
Poland3753 Posts
On October 22 2015 21:19 Blargh wrote: I agree, but there is really nothing they can do. In fact, them publicly stating (originally) that they would not ban ex-matchfixers is pretty respectable, and it makes me like Afreeca more than I did before. But when there's such an outrage for that kind of response, and you are trying to maintain relations with various other organizations (Kespa), the only choice they had was to cave, and just ban the players. It would be interesting to see where this falls in terms of "legality". Even if it was illegal for Afreeca/other streaming services to deny service (ban) them for their past actions, I doubt anyone would go to court over it though. Also, one shouldn't be mad at Afreeca for this. They have no actual say in this. Kespa and the Korean community is way more to blame for causing this to happen. They could say they would do that if the allegations are proven in court (and I guess in the meantime ban BW match fixers) because technically this people are still innocent. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
On October 22 2015 21:14 Starecat wrote: Yay let celebrate revenge being done. Points to KeSPA assholes as expected. People should kill the matchfixers as well living on Korea hurts eSports : ] last I checked former match-fixers live completely normal lives in society but if you want to become a brutal murderer in the name of korean esports, thats upto you. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On October 22 2015 21:28 nimdil wrote: They could say they would do that if the allegations are proven in court (and I guess in the meantime ban BW match fixers) because technically this people are still innocent. But why punish BW match fixers retrospectively? Are they still criminals for something they have done 5 years ago and while they already paid for it? | ||
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Strela
Netherlands1896 Posts
On October 22 2015 20:56 [Svall]Granis wrote: This is getting way out of hand....soon Kespa dont want them to go to their local corner store to get milk because a progamer is also going to there....like wtf How it works for people who commits a crime (not all of them) You commit a crime, you get caught, you go to jail, you payed for your crime, life goes on. How Kespa wants it to be You commit a crime, you get caught, you go to jail, you payed for your crime, we will destroy your life. How you want it to be. You commit a crime, nothing happens and you get a medal. Yes it's easy to make silly statements like this. Match fixing and cheaters destroy games. No pity for them. If a pedophile isn't allowed to work with children anymore I wouldn't drop a tear. Same goes for these guys. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On October 22 2015 21:12 RHoudini wrote: I am reasoning, and strongly applaud this decision. Pretty much this. Afreeca doing the GSL makes this kinda mandatory. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
On October 22 2015 21:41 OtherWorld wrote: But why punish BW match fixers retrospectively? Are they still criminals for something they have done 5 years ago and while they already paid for it? they are banned from streaming BW and I doubt its as much as a punishment to hwasin whos viewers are mostly female who just want to see him flex, he can continue to pander to them and he'll be fine, he can just go offline on his stream when he plays BW. | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On October 22 2015 14:33 r_gg wrote: their explanation is that they heard about the demand through news articles, so Afreeca gave a general statement regarding their policy prematurely before receiving an official request from Kespa. Once they started exchanging words together, Afreeca realized how much impact the decision has on the eSports industry so they changed their stance. I can't tell if that's PR-friendly talk for 'They threatened a boycott of GSL' or not. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On October 22 2015 17:13 BisuDagger wrote: While I think they had the right to not get involved, this is the right move because they are host to the GSL tournament and now play a bigger role in the sc2 community. Pretty much this. Whilst, legally, they could do whatever they wanted; their position was completely incompatible with hosting the GSL. Its the right thing to do. | ||
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
First, it was AfreecaTV that holds all the cards. KeSPA could do nothing if AfreecaTV refuses - KeSPA doesn't have much thing to do with boycotting. It was players and teams who said boycotting, not KeSPA. Second, matchfixers cannot challenge this issue to the court, cause they`ll lose. AfreecaTV clearly states that they can ban anyone who could harm the company`s reputation, according to the terms 13-2. This is the reason why I said Afreeca was on the higher ground; they can choose either side, without taking any legal risk except public criticism. And.. Voila! they chose money that comes from balloons. please don`t mention about human rights - AfreecaTV do not give a shit about that. it`s just an excuse. | ||
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nimdil
Poland3753 Posts
On October 22 2015 21:41 OtherWorld wrote: But why punish BW match fixers retrospectively? Are they still criminals for something they have done 5 years ago and while they already paid for it? Were BW fixers were - in fact - sentenced so it makes more sense than to punish people before their trial even started. On October 22 2015 21:47 -Celestial- wrote: Pretty much this. Whilst, legally, they could do whatever they wanted; their position was completely incompatible with hosting the GSL. Its the right thing to do. I believe people are blowing this out of proportion. It's not the right thing to do before the trial. GSL and their personal streams are different Afreeca channels. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On October 22 2015 21:44 Strela wrote: How you want it to be. You commit a crime, nothing happens and you get a medal. Yes it's easy to make silly statements like this. Match fixing and cheaters destroy games. No pity for them. If a pedophile isn't allowed to work with children anymore I wouldn't drop a tear. Same goes for these guys. Lol you can't be serious. If a pedophile works with children there is a risk he does his crime again. If a matchfixer is allowed to stream there is no such risk because streaming games is COMPLETELY UNRELATED to his crime. He just gets discriminated from other parts of life because of a criminal past. This is not justice, it's revenge. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On October 22 2015 16:48 Thouhastmail wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PigLwLz.jpg) yeah, they don`t listen to anyone unless it`s the question of money. tsk tsk tsk. what a pathetic. Totally makes sense. I rather they listen to their consumers than random people on internet forums. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On October 22 2015 22:00 Charoisaur wrote: Lol you can't be serious. If a pedophile works with children there is a risk he does his crime again. If a matchfixer is allowed to stream there is no such risk because streaming games is COMPLETELY UNRELATED to his crime. He just gets discriminated from other parts of life because of a criminal past. This is not justice, it's revenge. Well I guess for some people revenge is justice | ||
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nimdil
Poland3753 Posts
On October 22 2015 22:06 OtherWorld wrote: Well I guess for some people revenge is justice I'd say comparing match fixing to pedophile is so stupid, it should have warn attached. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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