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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
October 15 2015 16:50 GMT
#21
Geez... and he was doing so very well this last season. As a long-time fan, this is a disappointment.

On October 16 2015 00:30 DJHelium wrote:

Also, I still can't believe people continue to leave a solid team and plan to move abroad BEFORE actually finding that new team that can help them achieve the new goal. Reckless, really.
Flash | Mvp
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
October 15 2015 16:57 GMT
#22
On October 16 2015 01:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I hope WCS gets a full region lock next year, i am one of the biggest korean fanboys here on TL, but this simply destroys ANY chance for the foreign scene, which is probably bad for sc2.


But how does the foreign scene improve if not with a competition on a daily base?
The WCS 2015 system helped him money and viewer based. But skill based, they chased all but one Korean from EU back to Korea while these where the guys giving foreigners a daily competition on EU ladder. Now WCS 2015 has only NA Koreans who play on KR server left and thus failes completly in helping the foreign scene to improve.
Yes the money helps the players to stay in SCII, to be able to focus on the game, but it increases the gap between Korea and rest of the world ( EU for the most) more and more.

Blizzard needs to find a solution for all 3 things, money, viewers and skill gap. 2015 only helped in to branches and a full region lock (passport lock) will additional help money and maybe viewers, but increases the skill gap.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 15 2015 17:01 GMT
#23
What a bad choice, DRG had just recovered most of his old form.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Horiken
Profile Joined April 2013
Japan68 Posts
October 15 2015 17:02 GMT
#24
EU/NA player don't need to win against KR player.Look at League of Legends.
EU/NA team hardly win against TOP Korean team,but they have so much popluarity.
This is because local scene is very well-established in LoL.
Blizzard should do this.Establish local scene,just like they did on 2012 WCS.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 15 2015 17:03 GMT
#25
Nooo, you were a beast in PL
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10825 Posts
October 15 2015 17:04 GMT
#26
If he joins PSISTORM that will be pretty crazy really....won't be too surprised with there recent pickups though.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 17:07:35
October 15 2015 17:05 GMT
#27
On October 16 2015 02:02 Horiken wrote:
EU/NA player don't need to win against KR player.Look at League of Legends.
EU/NA team hardly win against TOP Korean team,but they have so much popluarity.
This is because local scene is very well-established in LoL.
Blizzard should do this.Establish local scene,just like they did on 2012 WCS.


And now TOP EU Teams like Fnatic have 3 Koreans in the team... They lost ground and got replaced. (yeah and Riots strange rule changes regarding double teams)
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4066 Posts
October 15 2015 17:08 GMT
#28
But wasnt he really excited to compete in Korea again, well that enthusiasm didn't last long i guess
<3 things - Life | Kane | Innovation | Scarlett | Solar | MMA
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 15 2015 17:08 GMT
#29
ROOTDRG incoming.
grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
October 15 2015 17:19 GMT
#30
Good luck, DRG. Sad to see you leave Sbenu.
<3 BaseTradeTV <3
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
October 15 2015 17:26 GMT
#31
I was hoping there would be a bit of foreigner scene resurgence with LotV, but with more and more Koreans flooding to play in WCS Code B it seems unlikely.



At least DRG has some personality to him, unlike Hydra or some of the other Koreans who've tried this transition.
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
Light_VIP
Profile Joined April 2014
Australia108 Posts
October 15 2015 17:53 GMT
#32
A couple of days ago on stream Crank said that a lot of Koreans were interested in participating in WCS after seeing someone like Lilbow win. So far DRG and True, who is next!?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 15 2015 17:53 GMT
#33
On October 16 2015 01:57 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 01:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I hope WCS gets a full region lock next year, i am one of the biggest korean fanboys here on TL, but this simply destroys ANY chance for the foreign scene, which is probably bad for sc2.


But how does the foreign scene improve if not with a competition on a daily base?
The WCS 2015 system helped him money and viewer based. But skill based, they chased all but one Korean from EU back to Korea while these where the guys giving foreigners a daily competition on EU ladder. Now WCS 2015 has only NA Koreans who play on KR server left and thus failes completly in helping the foreign scene to improve.
Yes the money helps the players to stay in SCII, to be able to focus on the game, but it increases the gap between Korea and rest of the world ( EU for the most) more and more.

Blizzard needs to find a solution for all 3 things, money, viewers and skill gap. 2015 only helped in to branches and a full region lock (passport lock) will additional help money and maybe viewers, but increases the skill gap.

Playing against some koreans on the ladder is imo just a short term solution to get better. Sure, it helps because you play against these guys, but at the same time the koreigners aren't really at the level of kespa koreans either.
The long term solution would be that the western regions build their own infrastructure and for that being the case it is imo important that foreign players actually have the opportunity to go fulltime.
If there are better players (here koreans) who will farm the money this simply cannot happen.
Koreans got to that level because they were competetive against each other and tried their fullest, the west didn't really get that chance yet.
You can totally say "hey foreigners just wanna have the easy money", and that probably is even true for some cases, but there surely are other players as well who simply wanna have a sustained model to go tryhard. It's then the job of teams to find the players who actually wanna try and not just 'get easy money', but the system has to be in place for it first.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
October 15 2015 17:55 GMT
#34
More bad news, not as serious as TB's but still. I rather have players of DRG's skilllevel competing in Korea, especially for SBENU

:/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3175 Posts
October 15 2015 17:57 GMT
#35
On October 16 2015 00:30 DJHelium wrote:
https://twitter.com/DRGTheZerg/status/654678898093899776


FOR REAL?!!! WCS?!!! ARGH!!!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 18:29:46
October 15 2015 18:29 GMT
#36
TL DRG plox? I want this guy to succeed ASAP

Damn he was doing SO well in PL too damn this sucks
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
October 15 2015 18:51 GMT
#37
Really don't understand this decision at all. But whatever, good luck to him.
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
941 Posts
October 15 2015 19:00 GMT
#38
What a stupid decision, different from the majority of returning Koreans he became a PL beast.
:3
Drmooose
Profile Joined March 2011
United States390 Posts
October 15 2015 19:06 GMT
#39
EG Dong and Dong. Do it
I have a question...
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
October 15 2015 19:12 GMT
#40
I really liked him on SBENU
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